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Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.
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The substitutions and reverting to three centre halfs was all on Potter today. Even a 1-0 win wouldn’t have been great, but scraping a draw against an already relegated team on record low points is disgraceful.
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I’d sack the useless cսnt now. 
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Keep dreaming" wrote: 19 Apr 2025, 17:08 We still have to take into consideration that the squad is full off players who are ready to be offloaded next season. Also, the bench is alarmingly poor.
Potter might be shit, but these players has mainly been shit the past couple of years.

The biggest problem isnt Potter, its Sullivan and the squad management by the former managers.


 
 
 
Maybe so, but at least get the three points today. Not many would have handed the impetus to the oppositions with subs like that. It's not just the squad he has, there's an attitude and a motivational issue. How many games have we started cold and only shown any drive and determination after HT. PLayers like Kudus look lost at times, Paqueta can be effective but far to little.  This is on Potter. 

Our reality is he will be going nowhere and will be given the summer to improve the squad, but on todays showing that is a monumental ask.
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The problem today was going defensive for the last 15 mins against one of the worst teams in PL history.

Absolutely no excuse for it, and he can’t hide behind Sullivan on that one.
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: 19 Apr 2025, 16:58 Get this fucking fraud out of my club. I want him gone tonight.
If its your club, why dont you just sack him?
When you have, who would you get in?
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I’m still Potter in but he needs to do a lot of work on this team.

We are so slow, we can’t play the football he wants because we don’t have the players to do it.

Its time to give Orford some game time.
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We still have to take into consideration that the squad is full off players who are ready to be offloaded next season. Also, the bench is alarmingly poor.
Potter might be shit, but these players has mainly been shit the past couple of years.

The biggest problem isnt Potter, its Sullivan and the squad management by the former managers.
 
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Sullivan is without doubt the overwhelming issue at this club 
but nothing can be done about that 
Potter is a different matter though 
the combination of this chairman and this manager is disastrous 
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Get this cսnt out.
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I have to admit, that was fucking appalling again.

Yet again, we were shit in the first half. We get away with it, and take the lead. Then he gives the momentum back to them. A team that before today had 10 points from 32 games, and a minus 54 goal difference.

I still would like him to be given a full season, but fuck me this is so uninspiring.
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Got some serious questions to answer. Somehow he’s actually made us worse.
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Get this fucking fraud out of my club. I want him gone tonight.
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Gonna be some angry shit go down on Claret and Booze later one would think. Miserable performance today....just devoid of tempo 
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I've tried to have some faith but the end to this game has now shattered that. He's clueless making subs like that and trying to hang on against the bottom side. I'm just a bit baffled. 

We all know that Sullivan is the real cսnt at this club for the wonky managerial appointments and signing debacles, until he goes we will continue to be a club in perpetual crisis
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Fucking dreadful 1st half , he's a fraud
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Sir Alf" wrote: 18 Apr 2025, 18:37 Factoring in Sullivan now back where he wants to be as de facto DOF and negotiator, I would place odds of 70:30 it being an another awful season ahead.  

Even if Potter is better than we think, he and Macaulay wont get in who they want or certainly not many of them.  If they go for younger, less expensive players, Sullivan will still play out his “art of the deal” antics like his fellow narcissist Trump does and insist on derisory bids, unrealistic payment terms etc.  It will be small amounts of 2 - 3 million sometimes but Sullivan’s ego has to be fed by him exerting, what in his head, is power in negotiations.  

This season or whats left of it?  I just dont see things improving much more.  You can see we are trying ( albeit mostly unsuccessfully in terms of results ) to control the possession. I mean we got 60% in the Liverpool game but we are not turning it into enough good chances and when we do get a few we invariably dont finish many of them if any.  My opinion remains that the central midfield squad is so imbalanced that its almost impossible to pick 3 to compete with most any team in the Premier League and coupled with having no centre forward has left us toothless. Shocking squad management and recruitment before and since Rice left
 
 
That's rather pessimistic even for you, Alf. I think the glass half full footnote to this is that we have, despite results seen a noticeable uptick in the (second half) performances in recent games. We could have won at Liverpool on another day and we probably could have beaten both Wolves and Bournemouth. There are signs we are moving away from that Moyes low block style to something easier on the eye but you are right it is painfully obvious where we are lacking, 

We need a very solid window, and if its going to be limited this year because of the amount pissed up the wall last year, then they all need to be hits and no duds. They need to be on this NOW and not waiting for panic stations in July and August. 
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Maverick180180 wrote: 19 Apr 2025, 13:51
El Scorchio" wrote: 19 Apr 2025, 13:49
Maverick180180 wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 13:00
Prepare to be shocked
I’m not shocked. 
that’s funny cos the last comments you made were that you believed the story that Fullkrug can’t play more than 45 mins and that’s why he hasn’t been starting 
Nope. I said I thought he’d start this as he didn’t last week. I never did he’d play the full game. I expect him off at HT or maximum 60 mins. 
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El Scorchio" wrote: 19 Apr 2025, 13:49
Maverick180180 wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 13:00
El Scorchio" wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 12:46
I might be remembering it wrong with Lop then, but I felt he was a healthy scratch a lot more than perhaps he was. I don't see a great deal to grumble about with Potter's management of his return from injury though and it's not purely about minutes, it's also about how the game is going at that point. Yes I'd have liked to have seen him play more against Liverpool and that was probably the plan but we were on top so you could argue for not disrupting what was working at that time. He was never starting that one over starting this weekend though. As I just said I'll be shocked if he's not starting on Saturday. 
Prepare to be shocked
I’m not shocked. 
that’s funny cos the last comments you made were that you believed the story that Fullkrug can’t play more than 45 mins and that’s why he hasn’t been starting 
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Maverick180180 wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 13:00
El Scorchio" wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 12:46
Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 12:28
Don't be daft. Why would playing for 30-40 minutes rather than 12 minutes stop him from starting a match 6 days later? If anything it would have helped him last longer and play better in the next game, as well as maybe giving us a chance to get something out of the Liverpool game.

All that stuff about caution and managing his minutes very closely could have just as easily been applied to Lopetegui, but in his case you made up that it was about spite.
I might be remembering it wrong with Lop then, but I felt he was a healthy scratch a lot more than perhaps he was. I don't see a great deal to grumble about with Potter's management of his return from injury though and it's not purely about minutes, it's also about how the game is going at that point. Yes I'd have liked to have seen him play more against Liverpool and that was probably the plan but we were on top so you could argue for not disrupting what was working at that time. He was never starting that one over starting this weekend though. As I just said I'll be shocked if he's not starting on Saturday. 
Prepare to be shocked
I’m not shocked. 
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Fullkrug starts. 
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Factoring in Sullivan now back where he wants to be as de facto DOF and negotiator, I would place odds of 70:30 it being an another awful season ahead.  

Even if Potter is better than we think, he and Macaulay wont get in who they want or certainly not many of them.  If they go for younger, less expensive players, Sullivan will still play out his “art of the deal” antics like his fellow narcissist Trump does and insist on derisory bids, unrealistic payment terms etc.  It will be small amounts of 2 - 3 million sometimes but Sullivan’s ego has to be fed by him exerting, what in his head, is power in negotiations.  

This season or whats left of it?  I just dont see things improving much more.  You can see we are trying ( albeit mostly unsuccessfully in terms of results ) to control the possession. I mean we got 60% in the Liverpool game but we are not turning it into enough good chances and when we do get a few we invariably dont finish many of them if any.  My opinion remains that the central midfield squad is so imbalanced that its almost impossible to pick 3 to compete with most any team in the Premier League and coupled with having no centre forward has left us toothless. Shocking squad management and recruitment before and since Rice left
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Iron Duke" wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 16:39 I’m going to stick my neck out. We have 6 winnable games left and we will finish the season strongly. Then we’ll see if and how we strengthen in the summer. It’s been a poor start but I reckon he’ll come good.
I hope you're right.

Personally, I'm already hoping that the 3 teams that come up are shitter than the 3 that are going down this season. Think it's going to be a long old slog.
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Iron Duke" wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 16:39 I’m going to stick my neck out. We have 6 winnable games left and we will finish the season strongly. Then we’ll see if and how we strengthen in the summer. It’s been a poor start but I reckon he’ll come good.
If we don't finish the season strongly then you might as well give up all hope for next season. 6 games left, two of which are against already relegated sides, two against clubs in the bottom 7 who will be completely focused on their Europa semi finals anyway, one against a mid table Brighton and one at home to Forest. Anything less than 12 points from those games would be poor.
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Saw the Presser…

AI generated word salad…

Not convinced he will be anything better than mid table…

Predict 10 - 14 next season…

Poor man’s Southgate…Uninspiring Boring Midlander…

His Brighton relative. Success mainly due to the quality of players brought to the club by their analytical and search models…

Wish we had that infrastructure…


 
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Eerie Decent" wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 13:48
Steady wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 12:54
Eerie Decent" wrote: 17 Apr 2025, 12:24
We're barely seeing any goals every week, especially for us, that's why he's taken us from 13th in the league to 17th (THIRTEENTH to SEVENTEENTH). His teams have always struggled to score goals, so quite why anyone thinks that'll change after this summer is anyone's guess.

You're another one who's been hoodwinked by this not conceding goals thing. The other end of the pitch is far more important overall, because you will not win games without scoring goals.
I just think he deserves to be judged after a pre-season and a transfer window where he hopefully gets backed. If we’re still struggling to score with a fit Fullkrug next season (and hopefully another decent striker), then fair enough he should get some stick 
I'd be inclined to agree, if he had a history of managing teams that scored goals. He has the opposite.

I'm looking forward to the early excuses next season of 'he can't be expected to get all the new players to gel straight away' after having a full pre-season as well as the end to this season. He has Jarrod Bowen, and England international forward, Kudus, who's been rated at £100mil on here before, Paqueta who Man City nearly signed for £85mil. Soler was signed by PSG, he has an outstanding pedigree. Other clubs would kill for that attacking talent.

No one can answer why Wolves were able to turn from being 19th in the league, mixing with the absolute dross who are about to be relegated this season, into a really good, attacking team. Why has their manager been able to do that with an inferior squad to ours?

I've said before, we have a big problem over that stadium. I'm not sure if you go to games, but for those who do,  it needs something to cheer about over there to build a bit of spirit in the club. This geezer has no excuse to not be going all out in home games, we' re lucky enough that we won't finish below 17th (although he's done his best to get close) so quite why the fuck he's bored the home fans to tears trying to draw 0-0 regardless of opposition, is anyone's guess.

Trust me, loads are not going to renew, because it's such an effort going over there watching that dross. Very easy posting on here 'give him time!' when you don't make the time & effort, as well as the cost, to go over there. He has a duty to try to show much more than what we've been served up.
Trust me, loads are not going to renew, because it's such an effort going over there watching that dross. 

Hear this doom and gloom crap every fucking end of season 
Don't know anyone not renewing and yes I've already renewed early 
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