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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)
Posted: 18 Aug 2024, 01:31
by maverick180
I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season
Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit
We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge
But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 10:07
by Massive Attack
Tomshardware wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 10:01
It's by no means good but people have short memories, under Moyes we got thrashed and didn't play football, negative dross. Under Lop at least we play football and spent most of the game in their final third. Never happened under Moyes even when we won. Agree Kilman was really poor last night but last night was never a 3-1 performance.
Yep. Heard O'haha last night say under Moyes that result against Leciester wouldn't happen. Only that the last time we played Leicester under Moyes we lost badly both Home and Away to Leicester the season they got relegated.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 10:04
by southbankbornnbred
Kilman is a problem. He's actually an 'OK' player bar one crucial thing: his lack of pace will keep killing us in the modern Premier League. He's far too slow for any team that wants to target a top-half place regularly. He's a fighter and his instinctive positional sense is decent. But he's painfully slow - and slow to react. And we paid £40m for him! Top half sides will keep skinning him alive.
Make bad appointments, get bad deals for players.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 10:02
by Lee Trundle
He's the worst manager in the Premier League, isn't he?
Van Nistelrooy, who's only been a manager for 5 minutes, made him look like an amateur.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 10:01
by Tomshardware
It's by no means good but people have short memories, under Moyes we got thrashed and didn't play football, negative dross. Under Lop at least we play football and spent most of the game in their final third. Never happened under Moyes even when we won. Agree Kilman was really poor last night but last night was never a 3-1 performance.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:59
by threesixty
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 09:28
Look, it's plain and simple - Leicester are a poor side that will go down. Yet, we go there and:
No Summerville
No Antonio
No Paqueta
No Emerson
AWB at LB
Coufal at RB
Playing a high line with two of the slowest CB's in the PL
CB's playing too far apart
Midfield being by passed again
It is not a coincidence that we have some excellent players that now look average. Bowen, Kudus, Paqueta. This bloke could make the current Liverpool side look average. We had lots of possession and created chances, but because he chose to not pick his best side, none of them were converted.
A few people were getting excited after Newcastle. But let's be honest, they should've been two up early on. However, I kept my powder dry and said Arsenal and Leicester will be the litmus test. And look how that turned out. Wolves match next is a relegation match. Unbelievable.
Sullivan needs to admit that, under the circumstances, this is turning out to be possibly his worst ever appointment. Bin this fucking dud pronto. He is nicking a living.
And his press conferences. Fuck me. You get more sense out of a fucking mental patient.
Exactly!
This is why he has to go. If this was a cup final would he have “rotated” the proper team?
Hell no.
he didn’t respect the situation at all.
He really didn’t understand that he absolutely HAD to win that game. And he had to win against wolves for anyone to believe he has what it takes.
Because these are the “bankers” for a team of our level. Not only that he needed to win convincingly.
If we lost with the proper team and it was obvious the players weren’t putting in a shift etc then we could say the players fucked up etc because we have seen what they are capable of.
But this bollocks team he put out has never ever worked properly or been seen together so why try it on a must win game? That’s utter madness.
I’m still fuming at it this morning!
This is a league to be respected. I don’t know many clubs in this league that can put out a shit, untrusted version of their side and expect to win against any team. That used to be the case back in the fergie days. But even Man City struggle doing that shit.
the arrogance of it.. ffs
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:59
by southbankbornnbred
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 08:51
We are all going to be even more frustrated over the next few days as I believe Sullivan will do nothing. It would be a huge surprise for Little Dave to admit he got it totally wrong insisting on Lopetegui and now possibly having to see someone else’s choice show that ( hopefully ). Pride comes before a fall and Sullivan has tons of pride. His ego, pride and narcissistic personality will not allow him to do the sensible, logical thing just yet. Thats his history on everything to do with football. Gets most things wrong but spends enormous amounts of effort and hors to great lengths to disguise it
I fear you're right, Alf.
Also, if Lopetegui's dad is ill (no idea if that is the case - and, if it is true, you wouldn't wish that upon anybody) then the optics of sacking him right now would look even worse.
So I fear we're lumped with him for a while yet. He should not have got the job. Some of us said so at the time, while others creamed themselves over the fact that we'd appointed a Spanish manager. We've got the Spanish Steve McClaren. He was the cheap, shit option and it's showing.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:55
by Lee Trundle
I agree, Kilman look proper shit last night.
Hopefully that's just a blimp as we've got him for another 7 (SEVEN) years.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:50
by Pav BML
From the outset this was apparently a manager that plays boring football but nicks results based on a solid defence. He insisted on Kilman and for that alone he needs sacking, a fraud of a cb who just sat there looking gormless instead of putting any pressure on them for the 2nd goal. I feel sorry for any manager walking in inheriting this defence. Between him and Mavropounos you only have to knock the ball past them and run, it's game over. He just needs to go today, the worst thing is giving him Wolves and nicks another result to start the shit cycle again. Whoever comes in I think we need to cash in Kudus (didn't look interested most of the game), get a proper centre half, centre mid and striker, all of which need some pace. One of them needs to be a leader, I love Bowen but he looked like he was in his own head yesterday picking the wrong options
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:45
by Come On You Irons
I predicted a defeat yesterday, and I was correct.
I also predict 'loser Lop' will scrape a win next Monday against Wolves and he will limp on.
Relegation battle no longer ahead. The club is firmly in one under this Spanish fraud.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:45
by Mad Ferret
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 09:19
Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 16:36
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 14:40
Have you seen us play this season? We are about as consistent as my sex life. Those games are only winnable if we play like we did at Newcastle.
That's a winnable run of games. End of.
Why even try to dispute it?
You were saying?
That was a winnable game. We missed about 100 chances.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:42
by Ron Eff
I suspect he will be gone before Monday. Sullivan has a habit of having someone already lined up, interviewed, ready to sign on rare occasions he sacks someone.
Loads of noise around Conceicao. I don’t see that. He’s rolled the dice with foreign coaches a couple of times now and will be once bitten twice shy after Pellegrini and Lopetegui. He won’t accept that he just picked the wrong coaches. It’ll be a safety first appointment.
It’s a shame how it’s panned out. I was in the let’s give him time camp but that’s well and truly done now. My biggest issue is I don’t know what his style is. Moyes style was shit, but at least you knew what it was. Then there is the chopping and changing every week. I don’t think he has a clue what he’s trying to achieve himself.
Not renewing Moyes contract was the right decision. The recruitment for the replacement was wrong. It’s fine to admit that, especially at this relatively early stage still, and correct it and move on.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:38
by THUNDERCLINT
twoleftfeet wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 07:45
In some defence apparently his father is really ill so maybe he will make the decision before Sullivan.
So his nonagenarian father is laying on his deathbed in Spain and instead of being with him and offering him comfort in his final days the millionaire Julen Lopetegui takes a job, he did need, in London and leaves the poor old fella to the wolves. He really is one selfish, despicable cսnt.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:36
by Mex Martillo
It's always the same when we lose with Lopetegui. Big gap between keeper and defense easily exploited. How difficult is it to train or set up to avoid that?
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:33
by Far Cough UKunt
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 09:19
Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 16:36
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 14:40
Have you seen us play this season? We are about as consistent as my sex life. Those games are only winnable if we play like we did at Newcastle.
That's a winnable run of games. End of.
Why even try to dispute it?
You were saying?
Winnable run of games?
Bloke's a bellend.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:33
by Massive Attack
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 14:40
Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 11:57
Leicester A
Wolves H
Bournemouth A
Brighton H
Southampton A
We are about as consistent as my sex life.
Don't be so hard on yourself, Russ. You can't be that bad in the sack.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:28
by Russ of the BML
Look, it's plain and simple - Leicester are a poor side that will go down. Yet, we go there and:
No Summerville
No Antonio
No Paqueta
No Emerson
AWB at LB
Coufal at RB
Playing a high line with two of the slowest CB's in the PL
CB's playing too far apart
Midfield being by passed again
It is not a coincidence that we have some excellent players that now look average. Bowen, Kudus, Paqueta. This bloke could make the current Liverpool side look average. We had lots of possession and created chances, but because he chose to not pick his best side, none of them were converted.
A few people were getting excited after Newcastle. But let's be honest, they should've been two up early on. However, I kept my powder dry and said Arsenal and Leicester will be the litmus test. And look how that turned out. Wolves match next is a relegation match. Unbelievable.
Sullivan needs to admit that, under the circumstances, this is turning out to be possibly his worst ever appointment. Bin this fucking dud pronto. He is nicking a living.
And his press conferences. Fuck me. You get more sense out of a fucking mental patient.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Russ of the BML
Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 16:36
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 14:40
Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 11:57
Leicester A
Wolves H
Bournemouth A
Brighton H
Southampton A
Have you seen us play this season? We are about as consistent as my sex life. Those games are only winnable if we play like we did at Newcastle.
That's a winnable run of games. End of.
Why even try to dispute it?
You were saying?
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 08:51
by Sir Alf
We are all going to be even more frustrated over the next few days as I believe Sullivan will do nothing. It would be a huge surprise for Little Dave to admit he got it totally wrong insisting on Lopetegui and now possibly having to see someone else’s choice show that ( hopefully ). Pride comes before a fall and Sullivan has tons of pride. His ego, pride and narcissistic personality will not allow him to do the sensible, logical thing just yet. Thats his history on everything to do with football. Gets most things wrong but spends enormous amounts of effort and hors to great lengths to disguise it
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 08:50
by Lee Trundle
I apologise. I seem to have mistaken your blind optimism as support of him.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 08:47
by Mad Ferret
Trundle
Really? When?
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 08:46
by southbankbornnbred
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 07:52
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 07:43
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 06:32
This is what's fucked me off most about Lopetegui and his persistent changing of the Formation and Team. Now I can excuse some of his changes that are forced upon him but other times I can't.
Up at Newcastle he finally settled on a convincing 433 Formation that suited his style and the player's we have. It worked so well by making us a lot more solid at the back giving us a foothold in the game, before then being able to play on the ball as well as we did. We won the midfield by being compact. Then he goes and plays a 4231 which just doesn't suit us with gaps all over the park when we aint attacking. He should have stuck to what worked.
You can't then blame the player's for being so confused when everything keeps changing, especially when we get suspensions and injuries to key player's.
The other thing I don't like is this suicide highline when you've got a changing makeshift defence. Mavropanos is a constant liability getting caught out time and again, Wan-Bissaka had to play in Emersons position due to carrying a knock and yet he sets us up with a high line up to the halfway line giving them little chance to prevent counters in behind. The balance up at Newcastle was just about right.
And yes, Amorim was the one we should have got all along but Sullivan can't help himself dicking about.
Also, don’t rule out just how poor Newcastle were, Massive. A colleague of mine is a Geordie, and said that’s the worst they’ve played at home for a couple of seasons. They had a terrible day against us, including playing a couple who were limping along with injuries.
Who was limping along with injuries? Not that we haven't ourselves with the likes of Todibo regularly pulling up himself during games, including at Newcastle. Newcastle had also just come off the back of convincingly beating Arsenal, Chelsea and Forest before playing us.
By all means criticise when we do get it wrong but not when it does go right by making excuses it was down to the opposition, not us.
Nobody’s 100% attributing it to that, are they? Just saying that Newcastle played badly - which they did - while we played well. Isak missed a sitter etc.
Hard not to conclude that victory flattered us a little in the context of the season so far - considering how poor we’ve been generally. Some of the shit Lopetegui has served up has been truly abysmal. Like Arsenal running through us like a hot knife through butter in the opening 30 minutes. That was a genuine embarrassment for a professional top-tier football club.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 08:44
by Lee Trundle
You were his biggest fan on here. That's a nice 180 from you.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 08:41
by Mad Ferret
Dago cսnt OUT.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 08:37
by THUNDERCLINT
Rumoured that Todibo wasn't injured but dropped because he landed one on the useless fraud cսnt.
Re: Lopetegui
Posted: 04 Dec 2024, 08:26
by Lee Trundle
It's unfortunate news about his father, if true, but it will be a right touch if we didn't have to pay him off.