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I want this costly clueless conniving cսnt gone. We have suffered persistent injuries to expensive key signings this season, as well as others who just don't cut it against Premier League opposition, or have suspect temperaments/injury records previously known and they're all his picks. He clearly doesn't do his due diligence well enough as one of the stories of the season has been us suffering injuries to key new signings..

Fullkrug £27M - Suspect Injury History 

Todibo £34M (if avoid relegation) - Suspect Injury History/Suspect attitude problems at Barcelona 

Mavropanos £19M - Just utter dogshit (and ironically probably now out injured as well due to concussion for 10 days like Fabianski)

Alvarez £35M - Nowhere near good enough for the money we spent on him looking lost and slow as arseholes against Premier League opposition 

Kudus is just about the only costly signing that's come off that's genuine quality, although even he now has suspect temperament issues when getting himself a 5 match ban for fighting an entire Spurs Team in front of everyone. So fuck knows what he's also like behind the scenes..

Just sick of the persistent injuries to key players that has derailed our season and continues to do so on tonights evidence with Fullcrock, as well as all the unsettling bollocks behind the scenes. There's no smoke without fire and I now make that not 1 but 2 Managers in quick succession that allegedly told him to stay away from the Training Ground. It makes me wonder whether he is our Club Mole all along who has persistently leaked things out to the Media from either within the Dressing Room/Snaps with managers behind another managers back that then coincidentally get leaked at just the right time? A manager who was humiliated in the media for taking at least 2 Training sessions and possibly a 3rd on the last day he eventually got sacked and the whole thing was handled terribly which again points to Steidten and his breakdown in his 2nd relationship with a manager. And he's supposed to work with them, not against them!

On the radio yesterday when discussing Steidten someone mentioned how odd they thought it was to see him down by the players tunnel/dressing room area as well as doing interviews with TNT during the Chelsea loss earlier in the season and they thought good Technical Directors aren't seen front and centre as much as this one always appears to be. He's certainly got an impressive holiday snap collection he leaks to the media as soon as he takes them. 

The longer this season has panned out the more and more I've thought something just doesn't sit right at the Club and I genuinely think he has been at the heart of a lot of our issues. I suppose that's why it's now been known his position is under review and they're already on to him, hence why Potter swerved the Steidten question possibly knowing something we don't about him. 

Or does anyone still believe he's the right man to guide our Club making such big decisions within it?

 
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Hopefully the young Brazilian lad will be given a chance under Potter. 
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stubbo wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 21:01
Gary Strodders shank" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 18:41 Ward Prowse was a player that Moyes held out for and Steiden didn't want as he thought he was to expensive  and he could get better players on the continent.

JWP has a productive season scoring and assisting on a regular basis.

Moyes goes and JWP is shipped out on loan and Steiden brings in Soler and Rodriquez who have contributed absolutely fuck all thus far .

Sack this clown now before he does anymore damage 
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I mean this is a ridiculous position to take, given Steidten didn't want either and Lopetegui was the instigator behind both, as confirmed by Roshane Thomas.

Seems a lot of those that think Steidten is culpable don't appreciate he hasn't identified all of these signings, and doesn't have nearly as much signing control as people think.

Seriously, of the players signed since he arrived, he's only end to end responsible for about 3 of them! (Fullkrug, Todibo, and Guilherme).

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After going back a couple of pages to read people's thoughts, I find it amazing that the chief architect of the constant chaos at West Ham always gets a free ride, as soon as the odious dwarf sells up we may see some settled waters and a more professionally run club.

Personally all of these stories about Steidten in the press are nothing but Sullivan testing the water as he misses playing CM Manager 25 and wants his toys back.

He's the one that needs to fuck off 

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Imo you cannot really point totally at Steidten, even Lop and yes even Moyes when you have an owner like Sullivan. He is a moral coward, egomaniac and suffers from small man syndrome so is always a mitigating factor. The fact he appointed managers and bought players against his execs, coaches and manager’s wishes is bad enough but the manipulation of the media thru “leaks” and rumours down the years is all down to him. “The Fish rots from the head” is a saying that sums up Sullivan’s tenure at West Ham and Brum.  

Potter’s biggest challenge will be navigating around by the poor decisions and interference from the top. But he ( Potter ) possesses one thing previous managers / coaches lack, emotional intelligence and humility allied to a quiet assurance in addition to having a clear vision. He just needs to be allowed to get on with the job which will take a few seasons. This last part is perhaps the biggest risk for Potter because no one has patience but bringing in younger players, dev squad players and us seeing progress shpuld hopefully give him tome he needs
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Massive Attack" wrote: 12 Jan 2025, 08:16
Manuel wrote: 12 Jan 2025, 02:10
Massive Attack" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:52
Look at you getting all abusive.. A disaster sat in 14th after 6 months of trying to change an entire philosophy and Team that's simply not up to scratch thanks to what Moyes, Sullivan and Steidten left behind. The season will only get worse, not better and we're already out of the FA Cup. Let's see how the season pans out, then you can shout your mouth off like the obsessed freak that you are. This won't end well at all.
What a crock of shit, and now you're desperate for Potter to fail, even if you won't admit it. You even got a dig in about being out the FA Cup, that's pretty fucking pathetic to be fair. Onesideman is right, you're a bit fucking odd and def single :-)
What the fuck are you on about? Don't twist what I said. Just because I think this won't end well, doesn't mean I want it too you div. Big difference. If Potter had won the FA Cup and we finish top 6 I'd fucking love it. But I honestly don't think that'll happen because I don't think he's that good to manage it. And there's a lot of weird fascination about my relationships status, is this a West Ham Football Forum or fucking Grindr you pair of woolys.. 😆
It's pretty clear who the div is around, still defending the worst manager in the clubs history. Don't you get tired of trying to 'explain' your posts when it's obvious to all what you are saying. It's odd how nobody really knows what you are trying to say, lol, we're the divs and you're the genius :-) 

You don't think Potter is good enough to win the FA Cup and finish top 6? Well, what a fucking insight that is. Appreciate the heads up, I'll calm my expectations now :-)

At least when Loppy gets a new club you can then piss off onto that clubs forum.
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Manuel wrote: 12 Jan 2025, 02:10
Massive Attack" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:52
onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:19
It must break your heart that the manager you backed so vehemently was such a disastrous pick. It really doesn't matter how much you try to deflect blame, everyone on here knows you were in a club of one

What really gets me is how you quote press talk as fact when it suits you yet pass it off as hearsay when it, doesn't, you knob
Look at you getting all abusive.. A disaster sat in 14th after 6 months of trying to change an entire philosophy and Team that's simply not up to scratch thanks to what Moyes, Sullivan and Steidten left behind. The season will only get worse, not better and we're already out of the FA Cup. Let's see how the season pans out, then you can shout your mouth off like the obsessed freak that you are. This won't end well at all.
What a crock of shit, and now you're desperate for Potter to fail, even if you won't admit it. You even got a dig in about being out the FA Cup, that's pretty fucking pathetic to be fair. Onesideman is right, you're a bit fucking odd and def single :-)
What the fuck are you on about? Don't twist what I said. Just because I think this won't end well, doesn't mean I want it too you div. Big difference. If Potter had won the FA Cup and we finish top 6 I'd fucking love it. But I honestly don't think that'll happen because I don't think he's that good to manage it. And there's a lot of weird fascination about my relationships status, is this a West Ham Football Forum or fucking Grindr you pair of woolys.. 😆
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Massive Attack" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:52
onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:19
Massive Attack" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 15:58
You're so fucking obsessed with me, obsessedman, it's creepy as fuck. And I absolutely stand by calling Potter a classless prick for sleeping on his decision to join 2 nights in a row whilst another manager is taking his Training sessions and someone who showed us more class than we ever afforded him the way he was treated in the end.

The injuries derailed the season close to the start when Fullkrug pulled up lame and we limped on with our overaged pensioners up top in his place. I said on here from the beginning we should never have bought Fullkrug because of his age and injury record for such a huge cost. On top of that Todibo was constantly either in or out the side with persistent injury issues. Sometimes playing with a knock or groin problems that weren't clearing up and was again a big part of our new look Team. On top of that the injuries stacked up to key players with Antonio almost losing his life and ruled out for the season and his subsequent replacement up top Bowen was also added to a long term injury picked up.

We've struggled for goals all season long from a Striker and every one that's been selected has ended up out injured long term. And we wonder why we've lacked goals from the side when we're without a Striker up top and 1 that can stay fit long enough to regularly play. So stop focusing on the amount of injuries throughout the Squad which I've never said was an issue, it was injuries concentrated to the Striker position and Centre Half issue mainly that centres around Steidtens picks in the Team of expensive injury prone or piss poor quality involving Fullkrug, Todibo, Mavropanos - all his signings. 
It must break your heart that the manager you backed so vehemently was such a disastrous pick. It really doesn't matter how much you try to deflect blame, everyone on here knows you were in a club of one

What really gets me is how you quote press talk as fact when it suits you yet pass it off as hearsay when it, doesn't, you knob
Look at you getting all abusive.. A disaster sat in 14th after 6 months of trying to change an entire philosophy and Team that's simply not up to scratch thanks to what Moyes, Sullivan and Steidten left behind. The season will only get worse, not better and we're already out of the FA Cup. Let's see how the season pans out, then you can shout your mouth off like the obsessed freak that you are. This won't end well at all.
What a crock of shit, and now you're desperate for Potter to fail, even if you won't admit it. You even got a dig in about being out the FA Cup, that's pretty fucking pathetic to be fair. Onesideman is right, you're a bit fucking odd and def single :-)
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As bizarre as it sounds half way through as season it's really too early to judge any of the summer signings.

Looking shit in a Flopetegui team is no guarantee a player is going to fail.

Let's face it the improvement in performance Friday had less to do with Potter's 2 hour training session on Thursday on more to do with the exit on the retarded shitcunt (possibly racist) fraud.  

Give it 10 games with a coach who isn't picking fights with every non white player in the squad and who has atleast read the 1st chapter of defensive coaching for dummies and then review the situation again.


 
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onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 21:50 How odd 
You certainly fucking are, Pal. 😴
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How odd 
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onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 21:36 You're single, aren't you?
Why do you fancy me, Obsessedman?
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You're single, aren't you?
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Bore off if you don't want to debate the subject properly 😴
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Massive Attack" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 21:02
onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:54 You truly are delusional

However this season ends, Lopetegui will have been majorly culpable
 
I think history will prove otherwise and it'll all come out in the wash eventually from all this fall out. I've long thought that something doesn't sit right within the inner workings of the Club beyond just Sullivan and Lopetegui is the one painted out to be the bad guy but I'm not so sure. I could well be wrong and it was him all along that was the problem but I'm not quite convinced that's true. And if I'm the only one that believes that then so be it, it's really not that deep and you can wank yourself silly I got Lopetegui all wrong till your hearts content.
You're the one that started with the ad hominem remarks pal... your revisionism knows no bounds.
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onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:54 You truly are delusional

However this season ends, Lopetegui will have been majorly culpable
 
 
I think history will prove otherwise and it'll all come out in the wash eventually from all this fall out. I've long thought that something doesn't sit right within the inner workings of the Club beyond just Sullivan and Lopetegui is the one painted out to be the bad guy but I'm not so sure. I could well be wrong and it was him all along that was the problem but I'm not quite convinced that's true. And if I'm the only one that believes that then so be it, it's really not that deep and you can wank yourself silly I got Lopetegui all wrong till your hearts content.
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Gary Strodders shank" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 18:41 Ward Prowse was a player that Moyes held out for and Steiden didn't want as he thought he was to expensive  and he could get better players on the continent.

JWP has a productive season scoring and assisting on a regular basis.

Moyes goes and JWP is shipped out on loan and Steiden brings in Soler and Rodriquez who have contributed absolutely fuck all thus far .

Sack this clown now before he does anymore damage 
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I mean this is a ridiculous position to take, given Steidten didn't want either and Lopetegui was the instigator behind both, as confirmed by Roshane Thomas.

Seems a lot of those that think Steidten is culpable don't appreciate he hasn't identified all of these signings, and doesn't have nearly as much signing control as people think.

Seriously, of the players signed since he arrived, he's only end to end responsible for about 3 of them! (Fullkrug, Todibo, and Guilherme).

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You're not the full ticket geez and need to calm down with your obsession over me. 
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Massive Attack" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:53
onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:34 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 3gkkxrp9yo

Talk your way out of this table from a month ago Massive Twat
I never said by the amount, are you blind as well as thick, obsessedman?? 
You're a cretin
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You truly are delusional

However this season ends, Lopetegui will have been majorly culpable
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onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:34 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 3gkkxrp9yo

Talk your way out of this table from a month ago Massive Twat
I never said by the amount, are you blind as well as thick, obsessedman?? 
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onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 20:19
Massive Attack" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 15:58
onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 07:04 Steidten is a liability, of that there is little doubt, however he wanted Hurzeler or Amorim and NOT Lopetegui so at least he's got that going for him.

Anyhow MA, I see you've now decided where your angst is to be directed now that your boyfriend has been given the boot. I thought it was going to be the (in your words)  "classless prick", Potter.

Injuries are "derailing the season now" but they most certainly weren't under the first 4 months of Lopetegui's tenure when we were affected less than any other team in the league. He did that derailing all by himself
You're so fucking obsessed with me, obsessedman, it's creepy as fuck. And I absolutely stand by calling Potter a classless prick for sleeping on his decision to join 2 nights in a row whilst another manager is taking his Training sessions and someone who showed us more class than we ever afforded him the way he was treated in the end.

The injuries derailed the season close to the start when Fullkrug pulled up lame and we limped on with our overaged pensioners up top in his place. I said on here from the beginning we should never have bought Fullkrug because of his age and injury record for such a huge cost. On top of that Todibo was constantly either in or out the side with persistent injury issues. Sometimes playing with a knock or groin problems that weren't clearing up and was again a big part of our new look Team. On top of that the injuries stacked up to key players with Antonio almost losing his life and ruled out for the season and his subsequent replacement up top Bowen was also added to a long term injury picked up.

We've struggled for goals all season long from a Striker and every one that's been selected has ended up out injured long term. And we wonder why we've lacked goals from the side when we're without a Striker up top and 1 that can stay fit long enough to regularly play. So stop focusing on the amount of injuries throughout the Squad which I've never said was an issue, it was injuries concentrated to the Striker position and Centre Half issue mainly that centres around Steidtens picks in the Team of expensive injury prone or piss poor quality involving Fullkrug, Todibo, Mavropanos - all his signings. 
It must break your heart that the manager you backed so vehemently was such a disastrous pick. It really doesn't matter how much you try to deflect blame, everyone on here knows you were in a club of one

What really gets me is how you quote press talk as fact when it suits you yet pass it off as hearsay when it, doesn't, you knob
Look at you getting all abusive.. A disaster sat in 14th after 6 months of trying to change an entire philosophy and Team that's simply not up to scratch thanks to what Moyes, Sullivan and Steidten left behind. The season will only get worse, not better and we're already out of the FA Cup. Let's see how the season pans out, then you can shout your mouth off like the obsessed freak that you are. This won't end well at all.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 3gkkxrp9yo

Talk your way out of this table from a month ago Massive Twat
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Massive Attack" wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 15:58
onsideman wrote: 11 Jan 2025, 07:04 Steidten is a liability, of that there is little doubt, however he wanted Hurzeler or Amorim and NOT Lopetegui so at least he's got that going for him.

Anyhow MA, I see you've now decided where your angst is to be directed now that your boyfriend has been given the boot. I thought it was going to be the (in your words)  "classless prick", Potter.

Injuries are "derailing the season now" but they most certainly weren't under the first 4 months of Lopetegui's tenure when we were affected less than any other team in the league. He did that derailing all by himself
You're so fucking obsessed with me, obsessedman, it's creepy as fuck. And I absolutely stand by calling Potter a classless prick for sleeping on his decision to join 2 nights in a row whilst another manager is taking his Training sessions and someone who showed us more class than we ever afforded him the way he was treated in the end.

The injuries derailed the season close to the start when Fullkrug pulled up lame and we limped on with our overaged pensioners up top in his place. I said on here from the beginning we should never have bought Fullkrug because of his age and injury record for such a huge cost. On top of that Todibo was constantly either in or out the side with persistent injury issues. Sometimes playing with a knock or groin problems that weren't clearing up and was again a big part of our new look Team. On top of that the injuries stacked up to key players with Antonio almost losing his life and ruled out for the season and his subsequent replacement up top Bowen was also added to a long term injury picked up.

We've struggled for goals all season long from a Striker and every one that's been selected has ended up out injured long term. And we wonder why we've lacked goals from the side when we're without a Striker up top and 1 that can stay fit long enough to regularly play. So stop focusing on the amount of injuries throughout the Squad which I've never said was an issue, it was injuries concentrated to the Striker position and Centre Half issue mainly that centres around Steidtens picks in the Team of expensive injury prone or piss poor quality involving Fullkrug, Todibo, Mavropanos - all his signings. 
It must break your heart that the manager you backed so vehemently was such a disastrous pick. It really doesn't matter how much you try to deflect blame, everyone on here knows you were in a club of one

What really gets me is how you quote press talk as fact when it suits you yet pass it off as hearsay when it, doesn't, you knob
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I’m not sure what his value to the club is anymore. I think he’s just mugged us off on the whole. And certainly not the messiah some were lauding him as. 
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Ward Prowse was a player that Moyes held out for and Steiden didn't want as he thought he was to expensive  and he could get better players on the continent.

JWP has a productive season scoring and assisting on a regular basis.

Moyes goes and JWP is shipped out on loan and Steiden brings in Soler and Rodriquez who have contributed absolutely fuck all thus far .

Sack this clown now before he does anymore damage 
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