Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[ludo21]

Manuel 7:15 Fri Mar 22 I wouldn't bother....

[Nutsin]

"Billy sollocks, That's so insightful you ever thought about becoming a premier league manager?"

[BillyJenningsBoots]

"Ha hah ha ha hah ha hah .... The sad thing is you actually beleive hes developing the squad... like I said its not just about numbers in the table... pay attention ... its about seeing the big picture understanding what a real modern manager needs to do square pegs in square holes hmmm yeah follow me so far boy, introducing the right players to fit the style of play as part of a transfer strategy ... yeah ok google it then, developing a pathway for youth players to get game time and develop them, did you see what I did there hmmm ok Now answer this does Moyes do any of the above... go on, dont just go running home to mummy answer the question... Anyone else care to agree"

[Manuel]

"Blimey, just got in from piss, I ''might'' review this in the morning."

[Nutsin]

"Billysollocks, We are managed under Moyes who is developing a quality team and squad not quite a champions league level yet however he does have us competing for Europa league such is his pedigree."

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Nutsack So you admit Pellegrini and Moyes were/are culpable for poor squad management yet only Pellegrini deserves the sack you say hmmmm why so.... no logic there sonny boy!

[Nutsin]

"Nagel, I'll spell it out for you seeing as you are stuck on stupid. You constantly criticize Moyes for his handling of the squad then defend Pellegrini because his goal keeper got hurt and had a poor back up. Then the next post you caught your retarded hypocritical self and tried to cover it up quickly before I exposed you, by admitting that Pellegrini should have had a better back up and handled the squad better. So tell me why are you making excuses for Pellegrini again?"

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Nutsack Qualifying in 10th place will proabbly get us a Euro spot these days... it isnt that difficult!

[BillyJenningsBoots]

"Interestingly looking at Moyes's lose stats... No winning is not all he does... For all games including all those 3rd rate games against pub teams Moyes's lose % is 35.74% compared to Bonds with 29.54%. Moyes is 6th behind Bonds, Paynter, Lyall, Bilic and Pardew... Worse still based on all league games out of the 11 best managers with more than 50 games he is 10th with a 38.83% lose % just ahead of Greenwood... Bonds top again with 30.57% so Moyes not that good is he. So can we all stop making out he's our best manager ever cos the stats say he isnt... and afterall according to the Moyes Muppets its all about the stats..."

[Nutsin]

"That's right Alf qualifying for Europe is not easy despite what the idiot Nagel says the Prem has a lot of quality teams, to make it this year will be extremely tough as chances are we will have to beat Liverpool should we get past two tough opponents first or beat out an inform confident Man Utd side. Both are a huge ask. Still If we had Pellegrini and a healthy Fabianski we'd be in the champions league wouldn't we Nagel?"

[Nagel]

"Still waiting to find out where I ""admit my Pellegrini Fabianski defense was a bit stupid"". Seeing as you're not at all dim you should be able to show us that pretty easily."

[Nutsin]

"Nagel, You blamed Pellegrini demise solely on the fact that Fabianski got hurt and you're calling me an oddball ffs. You really are a bit dim."

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Dont forget Sir Alf... Moyes's win stats are massively inflated by the beating all those foreign pub teams... Actually he sits behind Billy Bonds for all games % wins and if you just take all league games he is 8th just behind Sam Allardyce... So not the best manager based on stats....

[Sir Alf]

"Moyes deserves credit for getting us to Europe 3 times, winning a trophy even if it was the 3rd tier one and 3 from 4 seasons of not fighting relegation. There have been trade offs or caveats but overall best win % of West Ham managersso shoukd be remembered as good. BUT""¶ the caveats are material ones. The biggest by far for me is the appalling management / development of a squad. Its at the root of most problems. He only wants to manage, by his own admission, a small 14 or 15 which has led to us being left with a rebuilding job as 10 players in the 25 named become demotivated, not ready to play thru lack of minutes or very rusty and any value they had plummets. In the modern game ,imho, thats not really acceptable. It also limits ( perhaps deliberately ) substitutions that can be made which leads to higher risk of fatigue or injury as the season progresses and more limited tactical options ( like I said perhaps intentionally? It also blocks the pathway for youth or makes it much harder for younger players to see a future in the first team squad The limitation to tactics is linked to why we have Moyesball and no real change in 4 seasons . It was worked out a while back by most teams but can still get results but relies increasingly on the margins goinv our way. Its hard to see it sustaining Euroean qualifu ation much longer and look across Europe, now Mourinho has left Roma there aint a top 6 team playing this way. It cannot take us further imo. Of course new coach and change is a risk and no guarantee we progress. The alternative is Moyes and tge ""law of diminishing returns""ù. An accountant and perhaps an owner would probably play sate and stick with it and see revenue inevitably decrease as Euro qualification drys up . But the football industry still needs fans to fill seats and buy merchandise so needs some entertainment too and arguably its essential as we win less. Good job Mr Moyes, time for an amicable parting of the ways"

[Nagel]

"Nutsin 5:49 Fri Mar 22 That doesn't explain where I ""admit my Pellegrini Fabianski defense was a bit stupid"", does it? Where exactly did I do that, then? Is it just that I praised Moyes for bringing in a better backup keeper than Roberto, and in your head that is therefore a confession that any previous criticism I've ever made of him is completely invalid? I bet it's something completely fucking mental like that. You're a proper oddball."

[BillyJenningsBoots]

"Yet again Moyes's Nutsack has no answer just obfuscating by talking bollocks constantly... Admit it Nutsack its you that's stupid... all that matters is David is still in the job Oh David.... You just dont really understand if its not got numbers in a table... you are incapable of seeing the big picture. If Moyes left tomorrow and a new manager came in he'd wonder what the fuck has been going on, where are all the players why do we have so many defensive midfielders and no strikers, why are the defenders all old crocks or flakey, why is our backup keeper nearly 40, whats the pathway for the youth players that are performing so well to get into the first team... If hes so fucking great how come he's got so much going wrong all all short termism no thought of squad or player development."

[Nutsin]

That's if one is to believe the nonsense that it was only Fabianski going down that caused the losing streak. Personally I think there was a bit more to it. But you carry on with your ridiculousness. I'll continue to mock you for it.

[fraser]

"Nutsin is having an absolute mare here... It's almost painful to watch, almost."

[Nagel]

"Nutsin, I think you need to re-read what I wrote, or at least engage your brain. Pellegrini can certainly be blamed for choosing such a poor backup and Moyes can be praised for getting a much better one in, regardless of the expense, but how on earth does that change what I'd said? Fabianski's injury fucked our season when Pellegrini was there, same as Pope's has at Newcastle."

[Nutsin]

"Oh Nagel, So you now admit your Pellegrini Fabianski defense was a bit stupid. We have progression at last. At least you're not stuck on stupid like the other idiots."

[Nutsin]

"You do that Trunds, congrats! You must feel special. Looks like Moyes fixed Pellegrinis short comings doesn't it with the Areola signing. What is obvious is none of you have a fucking clue what you are talking about."

[Nagel]

"BRANDED, to be fair to Moyes, he did address that. Areola was obviously a great backup to Fabianksi, albeit a very expensive one. I'm not sure how much longer Fabianski can last though. It's interesting to look at Newcastle this season, because even though they've had a lot of injuries all year, it's the keeper situation that's really fucked them. Before Pope got injured they were flying - had 23 points from his last 10 games in goal. They've had 14 points from the 14 games since, conceding 33. If you've seen them it's been the keeper at fault for most of their defeats. Dubravka was a very decent keeper for them before but age and lack of game time seem to have done for him and he's a liability now. I worry that Fabianski may go the same way."

[Lee Trundle]

"Nutsin 4:22 Fri Mar 22 ""Same to you Trunds."" I'll chalk that up as a nice big W. Thanks."

[BRANDED]

"""his understudy was so awful that we dropped down the table"" That has consistently been an issue for us. Something we would hope would improve. But, lets not hold our collected breaths yet"

[Side of Ham]

"Nagel, ignore that post of his and do something better with your day........"