Euro 2024 - Inc Southgate resignation

[Phall Throw]

"We seem to have an England v Bosnia thread but not an actual Euro 2024 thread so here it is So, do we realistically think England can win it? On paper we obviously have a very talented squad but I just don't see us going all the way. For me it's ""same old"" when it comes to England. Breeze the group, favourable draw in last 16 and win then up against far superior opposition in the QFs and out. At best I can see us at the SF stage before being beaten again. Winners for me: France, Portugal, Spain Dark horses: Germany - even though it's a home tournament they've been in a consolidation period, could go close Biggest flops: Scotland - no goals scored Top goalscorer: Mbappe I'm just hoping it's a decent tournament with plenty of decent games that's not ruined by VAR (are they using it?) consolidation period but could go close"

[Grumpster]

"Saka is clearly a better player than Bowen and his england record is excellent. Ultimately so long as this boring cսnt sets us up negatively so that we end up creating fuck all for the best finisher at the tournament, it doesn't matter who he plays. TTT can fuck off in midfield though, fail everytime playing players out of position, but I reckon Mr boring loves him."

[Russ of the BML]

"Rossal 5:15 Wed Jun 12 ""I think Bowen over Saka or Palmer is a big call."" I know. But its completely West Ham biased and I openly admit it. But OK, I'll take my West Ham hat off - I go with Palmer on right. I am big fan. Think to be fair he is better centrally but no way he's replacing Kane or Foden. So he goes on right. As you say, Gordon has to play on left as he is the bets naturally left sided attacker and gives us that width. And yeah, TAA is an option but contraversially, I would drop him in for Bellingham or Foden because I see it as though if TAA has to come on then our all out attack isn;t working so, as you say, I think we need the 3 up top to make the runs in behind for TAA to drop them into. I'd even maybe sit TAA in with Rice and just tell Rice to protect him like a quarter back."

[Rossal]

Russ of the BML 4:36 Wed Jun 12 I think Bowen over Saka or Palmer is a big call. But agree with the rest. Form a tactical point of view I think Gordon has to play sunday as Trippier won't offer much width or attacking play at LB. If he plays TAA then I hope he has worked this week on players running in behind. It's pointless playing him mainly for his passing ability if they are all going to clog up the no 10 area like they did in the warm up games

[Takashi Miike]

"Russ, that's how I'd like us to line up. It then let's Kane do his roving deep without hurting us and always gives us an option up top"

[boleyn8420]

"We all know that we will get through the group and then the bullshit moves into even bigger overdrive about how we are going to win this. But we all know that with safety first Moyes, oh, sorry, Southgate in charge, no chance. Look at the last Euro final. 1-0 up early doors and what does Moyes do, no, sorry again Southgate do, cedes possession and the advantage to the Italians instead of going for the jugular. Whether it's a waistcoat or a fucking cardigan Southgate just can't read a game. Plus all these 'great' England players play with much, much better players at their clubs. For most of them this will be the worst side they have played in all season. Again, hope I'm wrong but that David Southgate, sorry Gareth Moyes really worries me."

[Russ of the BML]

"Rossal 3:35 Wed Jun 12 My starting line up from midfield upwards would be: Gordon------------------------- Kane----------------------Bowen ------------------Bellingham-------------------Foden ---------------------------------------Rice Then I would use Saka, Palmer and Toney off bench to keep up the sustained attack. If we are playing a team that has more about them and is getting on top then you slide Bellingham back to play as a two with Rice."

[Rossal]

"goose 1:02 Wed Jun 12 It should be Gordon wide left with Foden in the 10 and Bellingham alongside Rice But suspect he will go Foden on the left, with Bellingham in the 10 and TAA alongside Rice"

[Rossal]

"goose 1:02 Wed Jun 12 It should be Gordon wide left with Foden in the 10 and Bellingham alongside Rice But suspect he will go Foden on the left, with Bellingham in the 10 and TAA alongside Rice"

[Ron Eff]

"goose 1:02 Wed Jun 12 It’ll be Foden, and another example of England playing their most gifted player not in his best position. Bellingham is a natural 8/box to box too, so its not like he can’t play Foden at 10 because he needs to play Bellingham there. Bellingham should be deeper with Rice. If you’re shoe horning anyone onto the left wing position and are adamant Saka has to play right wing, I think he should try Palmer there, but its never happening."

[dolph]

"Winners: France Dark Horses: Austria. Obvs won't win it, but if they get out of that group, they've done really well Flops: Turkey. Not the wildest shout but they have got enough creative talent to have a floppy tournament. Can see them getting torn apart. Or Croatia - same team for a decade. Surely time will catch up with them....won't it? Goalscorer: Yeah, Mbappe. Kane will be hoping Foden and co will be flopping in the box for him to add to his penalty count though."

[Takashi Miike]

"it should be gordon with bellingham & foden in behind kane, but southgate cannot play on the front foot so will shoe horn a right back next to rice even though he'll offer zero protection to the back four as he can't defend. england's version of moyes is why we're winning fuck all this summer"

[zico]

"I was interested to see that In the PL this season Grealish has taken part in 20 games, 3 goals and 1 assist. Bowen for instance has 34 apps, 16 goals and 6 assists. Whether you agree with Southgate's squad or not one thing it does show is you simply have to be playing and performing for your club. I think he is a talent but Grealish needs to move on and play regularly somewhere."

[goose]

"Question then, who plays on the left of that front 3 on Sunday? Through qualifiers it was Rashford or Grealish. But now it looks like Foden or Eze will be shoe horned into that spot."

[the coming of gary]

"Palace have a few in the squad, but should have had MITCHELL as well ... an excellent left back who gets right up the pitch ."

[Fauxstralian]

When was the last time Grealish came off the bench and changed ANY game for Man City or England? Noticed that when Pep needed something he would use Doku instead. A player with pace that would take people on Grealish seemed to shuffle about and then pass it off Have been critical of Southgate but right to leave Grealish and Maddison out What I would say is he has wasted the last 3 years not developing some of these players he HAS selected England have some talented players but look vulnerable and without back ups if some players are injured / suspended ... Kane Rice Stones ... even Shaw as the only proper left back

[Manuel]

"Chevy - I do like Grealish when he's on form, but I'm not sure it's a fuck up him not going. He seems to have become better now he's not going, a bit like when some players are out injured for a spell. The likes of Bowen, Eze and Palmer can be effective coming off bench. We ain't gonna fall or prosper based on Grealish being there or not."

[chevy chase]

"He’s fucked up not picking Grealish. At some point we’ll be struggling in a game and we’ll need something different. Still, never mind"

[Fauxstralian]

"Belgium have talent but you’d feel they have wasted the window they had to win things with Hazard, DeBruyne etc by appointing Roberto Martinez He has gone but might be too late France are the stand out but beyond that there are some decent teams that COULD win with a bit of luck & a fair wind"

[Fauxstralian]

"Belgium have talent but you’d feel they have wasted the window they had to win things with Hazard, DeBruyne etc by appointing Roberto Martinez He has gone but might be too late France are the stand out but beyond that there are some decent teams that COULD win with a bit of luck & a fair wind"

[Sydney_Iron]

"Oh, and we are going to see a dark horse then my money would be on Belgium. Not sure I would bet the farm but a couple of quid at long odds, looking at their squad they have top talent all over the park, been talked up a lot at previous tournaments but always fell short maybe 2024………"

[Sydney_Iron]

"Will go France as well although never rule out zee Germans on home turf! As much as England have the talent as they have in all the tournaments Southgate has been in charge!!! That Iceland game maybe highlights why they won’t win this one as well? The loss to England was typical Southgate negative play, you could almost see the England players were not sure of their role or who was doing what, it was painful to watch and I’m sure with a more capable pair of hands England would and should do better. Top scorer, fuck knows always a lottery and maybe come down to which side gets the most penalty’s! Flop if the tournament, sorry but can see that being England,(happy to be wrong) or if not us then you can usually rely on the sweatys……LOL"

[Manuel]

"Winners - Have to go for France, but think they are beatable. Dark horses - Don't know and can't be asked to look at all the sides, but note some fancy Holland. Top scorer - How the fuck would I know that? *Gets out crystal ball. Biggest flops - I've become negative on England now, not sure if it's just the Iceland defeat, but all don't seem well. I won't come out with the edgy, nonsensical cry of ''we won't get out the group'' you often hear before a tournament, but wouldn't be surprised if we bottle it in say the QF."

[Iron Duke]

"I picked out Spain in the sweepstakes, so if England don’t win I’ll be routing for them"

[goose]

I’m tipping Spain to win the tournament. Rafael Leao to be top scorer. England should go far but Southgate has not picked a wide left forward and left the form centre back at home in favour of Lewis Dunk. And if Shaw isn’t fit you don’t have a left back. Italy will be lucky to make it out of that group.

[Vexed]

Anything less than the semis is a catastrophic failure. Not getting to the final would be a failure with the talent available. But Southgate is a fucking failure so that is what I'm expecting.