Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[Eerie Descent]

"I'd sack him for the crime of wasting the best playmaking central midfielder the club have had or will have for decades by shoving him out on the left, before starting on anything else. A club like West Ham, with all our tradition, wasting a unique footballer like that. Fucking shameful."

[Willtell]

Look fellas keep it calm. Some of us can see the areas where Moyes is poor at management but others ignore or excuse it. I think Moyes will go in summer and not before time. When you see who we are already being linked with for summer transfers gives you a clue why the signing of Steidten was so important. Check C&H this morning and it's 31 years old Maguire who can't hold a place down at Man Utd and 32 years old Wilson who can't hold a place at Newcastle... That's Moyes vision for you to see...

[goose]

"I hate the style of football Moyes has served up over the past 18 months or so. If you wanna take issue with the style of football then I'm with you. However, it's a results business and it's very difficult to criticise the results (in general). Same with the transfer dealings as they are reflected in the teams results."

[Takashi Miike]

"""How the fuck do you know that what went down in Jan and what didn't go down was all because of Moyes? Did you read it in the Sun?"" I didn't say it was all because of moyes you thick fucking cսnt. You write a load of bollocks bumming up how great Sullivan is and I explained how he (with the help of Moyes) attempted to jeopardise the season by not strengthening the squad while in a great position for the second time in three years. this year's worse, as they happily moved on two decent squad members in the knowledge they weren't doing any business before the deadline. thick, nodding dog cunts like you are our biggest problem"

[Nagel]

"To be fair to Nutsin, he talked up those players in response to all the others mentioned who Moyes has had to sell at a loss. It's not like every single player has struggled under Moyes. Although it's obviously damning with faint praise to say he can get players doing well who were already top class or on their way there."

[fraser]

"Paqueta who had loads of caps for Brazil and Kudus who was already a superstar have flourished under Moyes, Nutsin you think Moyes is responsible for them being good?"

[Nutsin]

Taki How the fuck do you know that what went down in Jan and what didn't go down was all because of Moyes? Did you read it in the Sun?

[joyo]

"Talkingshite Miike you really are a sad old moaning git ain't ya! Constant doom and gloom,never happy just gripe Have you seen the premier table?Notice we are still in Europe? Do you remember Prague(ok you couldn't afford to go l understand) If you actually went to game I'll understand,but then again you'll find something else to moan about like the price of the hotdogs which l understand is your stable diet choice Bet in your reply you call me a cսnt"

[Takashi Miike]

"""It's not realistic to expect a manager to get it right all the time"" in the past month or so, after he happily moved on fornals & benny and paqueta wasn't available, has used a second (arguably 3rd) string right back as a winger. and not just once, multiple times. this while he's had a player that would be perfect for the role and has never been given a fair chance in cornet, consistently treated like shit. I'm convinced he does such things now to wind up the fans, there can be no other logical reason to do itten corner isn't a lone case. he snubbed kral for a year, vlasic, haller, downes, anderson, fornals, benny, aguerd. there's probably more that I've forgot about. of course players like bowen, paqueta and kudus still shine but it's despite him. the same with rice, that level of player rises above his ineptness"

[Takashi Miike]

"you hear people say sullivan doesn't interfere but look at what allegedly happened in january. steidten identifies the young ghanian LW who wasn't overly expensive (now going to brighton in the summer), and the midget (again allegedly) takes the advice of silkman and cancels the deal. if that isn't bad enough, in the knowledge they were about to let fornals and benrahma disappear after that decision. it's complete mismanagement of the squad. this is what, two out of three christmas windows where they've refused to strengthen the squad when I'm a great position? there's so much to do in the summer, and I wouldn't be so worried under a different manager as they would utilise some of the younger age players, but he's openly said he has no interest in bringing them through so it will cost a fortune reshaping the squad. I haven't mentioned the shit football which is the main reason he needs to go"

[Nutsin]

"Will, There have been players brought in and sold on for less but we still got service out of them while they were here. That is a return on investment. Fornals and Benny although not good enough weren't complete failures. There are plenty of managers that have sold players on for a loss after they had their use of them. There have been additions too that have excelled, Emerson, Paqueta, Bowen and Kudus could all be sold on for a profit""¶.. I have no problem with taking a swing and a miss on a player, shows we are trying. It's not realistic to expect a manager to get it right all the time, just as long as we are progressing and we are definitely progressed under Moyes from where we were and we are still progressing."

[Willtell]

"Nutsin Miike is right about the wasted players. It probably has been worked out by the employed accountants for the directors. It is particularly bad I'm sure. However, it isn't only that. There's a dislike of the style that he employs and his complete lack of vision. The media reports had us going for speedy left wingers and strikers in January window. Apparently Moyes rejected them all. Like he rejected Ivan Toney, Darwin Nunez and striker Alvarez. And why did Moyes let three squad players go - Kehrer, Fornals and Benrahma as well as Coventry who never played anyway. The replacement choice for Moyes was Kalvin Phillips. Hopefully he comes through now Alvarez is suspended but so far he was bought on his previous record not the current one. In summer he agreed with Steidten's choices of Alvarez, Kudus and Mavropanos but insisted on having JWP who is now benched. Paqueta seems to have been an agent recommendation through Sullivan so on his own, Moyes would be in serious trouble. There's a sound reason his nickname was ""dithering Dave""ù from his 10 months at Man Utd""¶"

[Nutsin]

"Yeah Nagel, Moyes gets no credit at all."

[Nagel]

"""Moyes developed him into what he is today."" Don't know about that. It was Bilic and Pellegrini who played Rice in midfield. In Moyes' first stint he played him at CB, and when he returned 18 months later Rice was already an England regular and he told him, ""fuck me, you've improved!"""

[Nutsin]

Nowhere near as bad as you are making out. And we've pulled in all sorts of money with our European ventures

[Takashi Miike]

*we've got Aguerd*

[Takashi Miike]

"I'm talking about Moyes. Barring Rice and a few other youth team players, add up how much he's devalued players and how much we've lost in total. It's unsustainable for any club. one day I'll total it up, but it wouldn't shock me if it's over £150m and we've not Aguerd allegedly wanting out and us possibly losing yet another 10-15m. Cornet possibly the same. this after Fprnals & Benny leaving for peanuts in january"

[Nutsin]

"Taki Are you talking about Pellegrini? I was talking about Moyes""¶.. Rice fetched a pretty penny who excelled under Moyes, don't remember him costing too much, Moyes developed him into what he is today. Kudus and Bowen and Paqueta, Emerson all have flourished under Moyes and all of them could be sold on for a profit, what world do you live in?"

[RootsRadical]

"Chelsea's have spent twice that much in less time and are below us. Man Utd are another example of how just chucking money at it isn't the answer. Some need to give it a rest as they are sounding like the typical deluded entitled pricks that our fans of other clubs that our fans used to hate and ridicule. Moyes has done a good job, it should go without saying, his record speaks for itself. He's up there with Greenwood & Lyall as the only manager to have won anything, and has the best win ratio of any West Ham manager. If he goes at the end of the season then onwards and upwards."

[Gaffer58]

"Wonder if Moyes will be watching England v Brazil at the weekend, can guarantee Paqueta will not be playing left wing!"

[Takashi Miike]

"""He brings in Moyes when everyone said it was a mistake only to be proven right again."" he's given him just short of half a billion pound to spend, a demented chimpanzee would get it right with that budget. have a fucking look at how much he's cost the club in the players he's had to sell for a loss because he hasn't got a fucking clue how to use them"

[Texas Iron]

"Noble as DOF""¶ Hahaha""¶"

[Side of Ham]

"Yeah there's Europe & then there's EUROPE.....all he really wanted is to get us into the Olympic Stadium and he hoped that would push us onto the big table.....it's a B+ when he knows 60,000+ are eventually going to want to go for A+ like the other clubs who can get those types of attendance.....created his own monster really....."

[Nutsin]

"Funny how everyone slags off Sullivan when he has done what he said he would do, get us into Europe consistently. He brings in Steidten who everybody is wanking over and he still gets slagged off. He brings in Moyes when everyone said it was a mistake only to be proven right again. Love him or hate him, he's gotten a lot right."

[Willtell]

I certainly hope so Russ and let's not forget that Noble is learning the ropes from Steidten and is probably the long term future DOF...