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January Window

Posted: 18 Nov 2024, 16:10
by Pub Bigot
I don't often take notice of the windows, mainly because most of the players linked are paper-talk, ITK nonsense or fan speculation, however, there's lots of talk about unsettled players in the side, so we could see several players move on. 

Soler, Fullkrug and Rodriques apparently haven't settled in London so I would imagine they'd be looking to move on. It's more difficult in Fullkrug's case as his injury doesn't seem to have a return date, which is a very typical thing to happen. 

Apparently the player signing reigns will be taken out of the hands of Steitden, as the power hungry midget blames him for our failed season so far, not himself for employing someone completely until to manage in the PL, and the focus could be on Championship players. To be a little balanced, we have signed some very good players from the second division and it is a gold mine if you know what you're looking for. 

Then there's Paqueta. He's having a stinker of a season and he should be moved on if we can, but I doubt there will be any takers until his case is resolved. Is there a confirmed date for his hearing? 

More importantly, what do we need? A striker should be a top priority, even if it's a loan with an option to buy. The Big German might not be back again and Antonio is less a cart-horse and more a Jackass and reliably unreliable. Some pace in midfield to support Alvarez or Soucek and a new goalie. Fabianski as good as he is too old to start and Alfie Tits is shit, in my opinion. 

I don't watch a great deal of neutral football anymore, so I'm not offering names, but for the TV scouts, bartsoolers and Football Manager aficionados, who's worth the club pursuing?
 

Re: January Window

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 10:37
by Manuel
Lee Trundle" wrote: 27 Nov 2024, 10:15 Antonio has been awful for most of the season.

He has his one good game in 5 where he actually puts in a shift and people think he's literally the only option we can ever have in that position.

He's crap most of the time.  We should have moved on from him years ago.
I really like Mickey, but must admit when he's crap not much is said, but when he plays well he gets heaps of praise.  I wouldn't be shocked if he got another year off the back of a few more good performances.

Hopefully Fullkrug is back soon to take some weight off of him. Ings looks decent too when he plays.

Re: January Window

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 10:15
by Lee Trundle
Antonio has been awful for most of the season.

He has his one good game in 5 where he actually puts in a shift and people think he's literally the only option we can ever have in that position.

He's crap most of the time.  We should have moved on from him years ago.

Re: January Window

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 10:10
by zico
lowlife wrote: 27 Nov 2024, 09:32 Maybe Kudus could be converted - I think he’d be able to do this role very well. He’s strong, quick and skilful and can finish. Maybe not as good with his head but other than that I reckon he would be able to do it.
 
That's what I have said for ages re Kudus.  If he can do the job it would solve the problem as well on where he plays allowing both Bowen and Summerville in their natural positions.  Yes I know Antonio has only scored one goal but you do need that counter attack option and when you stretch defences the other way you give space to the wider players, you need someone who can do both, come short and hold up the ball and have the pace over the top, that's why the best cost a small fortune.

Re: January Window

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 09:32
by lowlife
Agree with Stubbo on this. If we can show that we can keep the ball and have good technical players in the middle, that would reduce the reliance on having Antonio as an out ball. It’s good to have that option but I’d rather we were able to build play, as we showed against Newcastle. If we do need an Antonio type option Maybe Kudus could be converted - I think he’d be able to do this role very well. He’s strong, quick and skilful and can finish. Maybe not as good with his head but other than that I reckon he would be able to do it.

I’m still holding on to the hope that Fullkrug will come good and will offer alternatives. He’s great at holding the ball up and playing it off, and he can also clearly finish. 

Re: January Window

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 09:25
by Lee Trundle
Antonio has 1 goal in 12 league games so far this season.

We should be going nowhere near anything like him to lead our line.

Re: January Window

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 09:22
by stubbo-admin
Surely the type of striker needed is more about the way the team plays? But obviously it's the Premier League, and pace and power is generally king. 

I'm not totally convinced Duran was truly perfect for this manager....don't think he's holding up and team play is quite there.  Suspect Solanke was more like what perfect looked like.

But, the forward needs to be able to be mobile in order to lead the press, to be good at holding up play, to be strong enough to occupy the defenders, and potentially be able to run in behind (although I think Kane in this way we're playing. Now would be perfectly capable and that's not what Antonio is).

Just my opinion, but think both Haller and Scammacca would have worked for Lopetegui just fine. We can't even judge Fullkrug's suitability as he's played so little before being out injured...by all accounts he's strong, good in the air, good at holding up play etc.

But of course to play on the counter attack you need pace and that means either wide players the forwards can feed the ball out to, or a striker who can 'do it on his own'.

I think it's lazy to say we need an Antinio type....but you have to have a striker that fits the pattern of play you're trying to develop....and if you're a shit team, an Antonio type gives you a lazy long out ball into the channels as opposed to trying to develop play through control of the ball.

Re: January Window

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 09:19
by Lee Trundle
Evan Ferguson should be exactly the type of striker we should be going for in January.

But as others have said, we'll likely get someone old, on expensive wages who'll be completely useless to us instead.

Re: January Window

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 09:09
by dealcanvey
zico wrote: 26 Nov 2024, 23:33 I haven't got a clue who but it's absolutely clear that we need an Antonio type of striker, ideally with more natural forward qualities such as finishing skills than Michail, but once again last night it was proved generally that when Antonio plays well the team plays well. Thought after a sticky start when the ball wasn't sticking he grew into the game and ran the channels really well. Baffles me that it's so obvious the sort of striker we need but always end up with a Haller, Scamacca, Fulgrug type.
Agree. Think most are onboard that Duran would have been the perfect mould. Shame we bottled it and did not pay the extra needed. Doubt we will have the money needed to sign a decent Striker until the summer.

Re: January Window

Posted: 26 Nov 2024, 23:33
by zico
I haven't got a clue who but it's absolutely clear that we need an Antonio type of striker, ideally with more natural forward qualities such as finishing skills than Michail, but once again last night it was proved generally that when Antonio plays well the team plays well. Thought after a sticky start when the ball wasn't sticking he grew into the game and ran the channels really well. Baffles me that it's so obvious the sort of striker we need but always end up with a Haller, Scamacca, Fulgrug type.

Re: January Window

Posted: 26 Nov 2024, 22:14
by Mad Ferret
No thanks to the Mick Brighton reject.

Re: January Window

Posted: 26 Nov 2024, 22:14
by Massive Attack
collyrob wrote: 26 Nov 2024, 22:04 Evan Ferguson available on loan 👀 
He'd be the answer. 

If we went for him on got him in on Loan, we should then do everything in our power to convince him to stay if that was the case.

No doubt we'll trawl the back waters of Europe instead and pay €37,383386 on Didi Scorfukal on a 12 year contract.

Re: January Window

Posted: 26 Nov 2024, 22:04
by collyrob
Evan Ferguson available on loan 👀 

Re: January Window

Posted: 22 Nov 2024, 19:02
by LJC
https://www.footballfancast.com/real-ma ... -west-ham/

According to reports out of Spain this week, Real Madrid could take a decisive step to sign Aguerd from West Ham, who is currently enjoying a productive spell away at Real Sociedad.

The Galacticos, in their search for central defensive reinforcements, have positive reports on the African after a fine start to life at Sociedad. The 28-year-old has started nine top-flight matches, averaging a pass accuracy of over 90 per cent from the back and making more clearances on average than any other Sociedad player (WhoScored).It is unclear what the procedure would be if Real want to sign him in January, given he's out on another spell, but that is something they're apparently considering after season-ending injuries for Eder Militao and Dani Carvajal.David Alaba is also still in recovery from an ACL tear, so the need for new bodies at centre-back is pretty evident at the Bernabeu.

Re: January Window

Posted: 22 Nov 2024, 19:00
by LJC
https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/fo ... 879396West Ham have joined Newcastle United in the race to sign highly-rated French international striker Randal Kolo Muani from Paris Saint Germain in January.Football Transfers understands that the French champions are willing to sanction a loan move for the 25-year-old forward, who they spent an eyewatering £76.4m on signing just 18 months ago. Kolo Muani, who came through the Nantes youth academy, rose to prominence during the 2020/21 season when he helped the team secure safety with nine goals in 32 matches - including a winner in a relegation play-off match with Ligue 2 side Toulouse.

Re: January Window

Posted: 22 Nov 2024, 16:35
by LJC
Haha stubbo. Don’t worry about Manuel. Often sends me a PM to apologise after wishing cancer on people or being proved wrong.



Anyway, like I say, better off ignored, like a poor man’s vexed. 

Re: January Window

Posted: 22 Nov 2024, 16:14
by stubbo-admin
Manuel wrote: 22 Nov 2024, 16:08
LJC wrote: 22 Nov 2024, 15:15 https://www.claretandhugh.info/the-west ... 5m-budget/

Nayef Aguerd £20 million currently on loan at Real Sociedad: Is apparently also being looked at by Real Madrid. Either club could easily part with the cash to make his loan permanent.

Edson Alvarez – £30 million -the red card liability has often hinted he is open to a move to a big club: Time to offload.

Guido Rodriguez £10 million – send him back whence he came. Enough said,.

Niclas Fullkrug £15 million – if we are lucky – on past performance he’d probably get back into a Bundesliga squad.

Michail Antonio £2 million – if we believe the Galatasaray rumours of today. A loan striker would be just as effective but probably younger.

This is without the ‘nuclear option’ of a sale of Mohammed Kudus which could be done at £85 million in January: My guess is that his agitation for a move in January will depend on the head coach’s identity come the opening of the window. Rumours this week have linked others such as Vlad Coufal and Tomas Soucek with moves away.

Providing upgrades come in, I’m not sure any of these squad players might be off limits. I’m not working out the ‘losses’ on purchase prices, that’d be too depressing. Remember that their value is amortised over the length of service, so some won’t show as loss.

The job- appeal to any prospective ‘incoming’ Lopetegui replacement will be far greater knowing that the squad can be freshened and the gaping midfield shortcomings at least can be addressed in January with that kind of budget. So when the club states ‘ no budget for new signings unless players are offloaded’ – don’t be too downhearted. All things are possible.
Why is it in every window you insist in posting up countless, pointless shit from spam, click bait sites?? Is there a few pence in it for you? You do it each and every time you fucking oddball. 10 mil for Rodriguez?? The cսnt isn't worth the cheese off of your foreskin ffs.
Bit unnecessary that Manuel. Relevant discussion pieces!

Re: January Window

Posted: 22 Nov 2024, 16:08
by Manuel
LJC wrote: 22 Nov 2024, 15:15 https://www.claretandhugh.info/the-west ... 5m-budget/

Nayef Aguerd £20 million currently on loan at Real Sociedad: Is apparently also being looked at by Real Madrid. Either club could easily part with the cash to make his loan permanent.

Edson Alvarez – £30 million -the red card liability has often hinted he is open to a move to a big club: Time to offload.

Guido Rodriguez £10 million – send him back whence he came. Enough said,.

Niclas Fullkrug £15 million – if we are lucky – on past performance he’d probably get back into a Bundesliga squad.

Michail Antonio £2 million – if we believe the Galatasaray rumours of today. A loan striker would be just as effective but probably younger.

This is without the ‘nuclear option’ of a sale of Mohammed Kudus which could be done at £85 million in January: My guess is that his agitation for a move in January will depend on the head coach’s identity come the opening of the window. Rumours this week have linked others such as Vlad Coufal and Tomas Soucek with moves away.

Providing upgrades come in, I’m not sure any of these squad players might be off limits. I’m not working out the ‘losses’ on purchase prices, that’d be too depressing. Remember that their value is amortised over the length of service, so some won’t show as loss.

The job- appeal to any prospective ‘incoming’ Lopetegui replacement will be far greater knowing that the squad can be freshened and the gaping midfield shortcomings at least can be addressed in January with that kind of budget. So when the club states ‘ no budget for new signings unless players are offloaded’ – don’t be too downhearted. All things are possible.
Why is it in every window you insist in posting up countless, pointless shit from spam, click bait sites?? Is there a few pence in it for you? You do it each and every time. 10 mil for Rodriguez?? The cսnt isn't worth the cheese off of your foreskin ffs.

Re: January Window

Posted: 22 Nov 2024, 15:15
by LJC
https://www.claretandhugh.info/the-west ... 5m-budget/

Nayef Aguerd £20 million currently on loan at Real Sociedad: Is apparently also being looked at by Real Madrid. Either club could easily part with the cash to make his loan permanent.

Edson Alvarez – £30 million -the red card liability has often hinted he is open to a move to a big club: Time to offload.

Guido Rodriguez £10 million – send him back whence he came. Enough said,.

Niclas Fullkrug £15 million – if we are lucky – on past performance he’d probably get back into a Bundesliga squad.

Michail Antonio £2 million – if we believe the Galatasaray rumours of today. A loan striker would be just as effective but probably younger.

This is without the ‘nuclear option’ of a sale of Mohammed Kudus which could be done at £85 million in January: My guess is that his agitation for a move in January will depend on the head coach’s identity come the opening of the window. Rumours this week have linked others such as Vlad Coufal and Tomas Soucek with moves away.

Providing upgrades come in, I’m not sure any of these squad players might be off limits. I’m not working out the ‘losses’ on purchase prices, that’d be too depressing. Remember that their value is amortised over the length of service, so some won’t show as loss.

The job- appeal to any prospective ‘incoming’ Lopetegui replacement will be far greater knowing that the squad can be freshened and the gaping midfield shortcomings at least can be addressed in January with that kind of budget. So when the club states ‘ no budget for new signings unless players are offloaded’ – don’t be too downhearted. All things are possible.

Re: January Window

Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 20:36
by Massive Attack
Mex Martillo" wrote: 21 Nov 2024, 19:57 I would really like a forward who can score goals and pass the ball. Is that asking for too much?
Nope and we had 2 perfectly good one's in their prime for us and decided to discard of them both as soon as we got them. Both frozen out after just 1 full season in a new Country by the same manager who wanted them both gone. And we wonder why we struggle so much to find and keep decent Strikers...

Re: January Window

Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 19:57
by Mex Martillo
I would really like a forward who can score goals and pass the ball. Is that asking for too much?

Re: January Window

Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 11:41
by Massive Attack
Fucking shit. No thanks. 

Re: January Window

Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 11:31
by LJC
West Ham, Brighton and Fulham are keeping tabs on English midfielder Josh Brownhill, 28, who is yet to sign a new deal with Burnley. (TBR)


Thoughts?

Re: January Window

Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 09:57
by Adsiron
I suspect Fullfrug was Steidten's sensible top class option to giving 20 year old Jhon Duran time to get settled in London and playing regularly. I think we all know that the problem is that our Chairman wouldn't cough up another £5m to complete on Duran making Steidten look daft with just the Fullkrugg part of the deal going through.

The key to it all is that we get a decent striker so that our options go beyond Antonio or Ings as our only strikers. A better keeper, better midfielders and another CB might be nice but not as key as a striker that can score goals for the team to be able to win more games

Re: January Window

Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 07:33
by Rossal
Massive Attack" wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 13:40
Rossal wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 07:33
Massive Attack" wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 03:04 Like you Pub Bigot, I too think this January window will prove important for us if we are to get our season back on track.  If I had it my way and was pretending to fly Steidten Airlines myself this winter, I'd fly all the way over to Riyadh to bring onboard Al-Hilals Keeper Bono and do it for a number of reasons; 


1) He's one of the world's best Keepers, with the awards and achievements to back it up. 

2) He's worked very well with Lopetegui before at Sevilla winning a Cup and qualifying for the Champions League together. It would take long to understand what he wants exactly from a Keeper that's reliable with his hands and feet keeping moves flowing.

3) We could afford him. He wouldn't come cheap but I do think after maybe selling 1 or 2 this winter I think we could manage his wages. I'd actually try and shift Areola out at the same time who's on a hefty whack himself so he can seek 1st team football elsewhere, killing 2 birds with 1 stone. 

4) He'd be 33yo which is around the same age we brought Fabianski to West Ham and his longevity and quality has lasted a long time. I see Bono in the same professional mould and being able to last a good 6 years or so himself at 33 which sets us up for the short and medium term. 

5) I think it would be realistic not only because of his close association with working well with Lopetegui before but also because we have been closely linked with him in the past and is someone on our radar. He's won a League and Cup double whilst in Saudi and earned himself a huge sum of money for the past year and a half he's already been out there, so may now fancy a long stint testing himself in the toughest League in the world before calling time on his career. 

6) I regard Keepers as integral parts of any successful Team and believe nailing down the right one makes a hell of a difference to a side. Getting Bono or someone of his calibre I believe would make a world of difference.  Above all else, I think sorting this 1 position out in January would help spark us in to gear and set us up for the future under Lopetegui playing the way he prefers with a Keeper he completely trusts.


Sure, there is other work in the Team that also needs to be done but for me this is the 1 position that needs the most attention, as Fabianski is on borrowed time and Areola just isn't good enough for what we want. 
Do you understand why he went there in the first place?  The bloke is on over 150k a week ffs how on earth are we going to get him even if we do want to spend alot of money on another ageing player 
Yes, I do which is why I mentioned about affording it by way of selling other's. We pay Areola north of £100k a week and will need selling if we were to go for someone like Bono. Areola will not want to stick around having to play second fiddle to Fabianski again. There's also strong rumours that other players are unsettled too and looking to leave which would free up more money. 

Also Bono has 1 and a half years remaining on his deal with no new offer on the table. So if we offer him slightly less than what he's on a week now but say a 3/4 year contract whilst playing in the Premier League, I can see that being a very attractive offer to reunite with his old manager he enjoyed great success with. 

If there was a possibility, I'd love to see us go for him.
We have far bigger problems to solve before we start offering a 33 year old keeper 150k a week whos been playing in Saudi

Re: January Window

Posted: 20 Nov 2024, 18:25
by Jaan Kenbrovin
I sincerely hope Lopetegui doesn’t get another penny to spend. It’s pointless doubling down on this prick.

Nothing will save this season and so far he has destroyed the squad with 150m spend.