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https://www.whufc.com/news/graham-potte ... head-coach

​​​​​​In the past he's favoured a 3-4-3 formation...hard to see how we can do that currently with only 3 senior CBs, one of whom is injured. He's also played wingers (Solly March as an example) in the wing back roles.

Typically when a 3-4-3 gets announced on a match day the manager is immediately described as being too negative, too cautious etc. I guess it depends on the composition of the 4.

He's given young players chances...hopefully that continues at West Ham.

Welcome Graham.

Weird? No, there's ways of acting professionally and not shitting on people via media outlets masquerading as ITKs or independent news. You think our main shareholder should be putting out shit like this and not expect consequences, either financially or creating a toxic atmosphere?
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You're weird.  You've got proper SDS (similar to TDS) when it comes to him.

I'm defending the club that I don't want to be financially punished, not him.

Just because I don't think TIM is the messiah (in any way), doesn't mean I'm defending Sullivan.  When Tim goes, I'd want someone better in to replace him.

It's even more amazing people still defend that little fucking cսnt, you don't stop fighting his corner. Hahaha

It's amazing people want to fuck the club over financially to get to Sullivan.

The compo won't be coming out of his pocket.

And given how he's been for us, I'd be ASTONISHED if Liverpool go for TIM.

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 15:58

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 15:50 Be a huge embarrassment for our club and owner if he does go there and starts doing great business for them. Liverpool aren't fucking dumb with their recruitment and they don't miss on many either domestically or from abroad so they aren't going to be employing someone who is shit.

As an aside, just saw this from Sullivan's proxy. How low can you get with the tone of the article? You just know the 'Club senior source' quoted was Sullivan. 

In a simple sentence, a club senior source today – as quoted by westhamzone.com – dispelled any myth about the players Tim Steidten brought to London Stadium. “We have to improve. Summerville at £20million was the only value for money signing. We hope he’s back soon.”  So, something approaching £140 million spent on ten players. Only ONE of them has been a value- for-money signing.I’d say that’s a pretty plain (not even veiled) criticism of the Tim Steidten-led buying spree. Especially since we were led to believe months ago that the one shining light – Crysencio Summerville – was chairman Sullivan’s choice.To saddle West Ham with a defence that can’t defend (after replacing three out of four) and a midfield that can’t run is a pretty awful legacy, whoever the coach is. I’m not sure Steidten will be getting hold of the company cheque book this window.

What nasty spiteful article, even having the cheek to namecheck himself with Summerville yet again.
Cannot fathom a company boss/leader that publicly throws his staff under the bus in public like that. Disgusting behaviour. Pass the buck for every failure at YOUR business to someone else. Someone else YOU appointed in the first place. It'll be the same with the ext man who comes in, and the next man after that. The moment anything goes wrong mr shit doesn't stink will blame them for everything.

https://www.claretandhugh.info/steidten ... one-liner/




 

I thought it was half a dozen or so hired glove puppets spewing poison for the midget cսnt, but no, there seems to be an army of them that will lie, attack and character assisinate any person the 4ft parasite demands them to. Steidten should sue them for constructive dismissal, they're clearly trying to make him quit

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 15:50 Be a huge embarrassment for our club and owner if he does go there and starts doing great business for them. Liverpool aren't fucking dumb with their recruitment and they don't miss on many either domestically or from abroad so they aren't going to be employing someone who is shit.

As an aside, just saw this from Sullivan's proxy. How low can you get with the tone of the article? You just know the 'Club senior source' quoted was Sullivan. 

In a simple sentence, a club senior source today – as quoted by westhamzone.com – dispelled any myth about the players Tim Steidten brought to London Stadium. “We have to improve. Summerville at £20million was the only value for money signing. We hope he’s back soon.”  So, something approaching £140 million spent on ten players. Only ONE of them has been a value- for-money signing.I’d say that’s a pretty plain (not even veiled) criticism of the Tim Steidten-led buying spree. Especially since we were led to believe months ago that the one shining light – Crysencio Summerville – was chairman Sullivan’s choice.To saddle West Ham with a defence that can’t defend (after replacing three out of four) and a midfield that can’t run is a pretty awful legacy, whoever the coach is. I’m not sure Steidten will be getting hold of the company cheque book this window.

What nasty spiteful article, even having the cheek to namecheck himself with Summerville yet again.
Cannot fathom a company boss/leader that publicly throws his staff under the bus in public like that. Disgusting behaviour. Pass the buck for every failure at YOUR business to someone else. Someone else YOU appointed in the first place. It'll be the same with the ext man who comes in, and the next man after that. The moment anything goes wrong mr shit doesn't stink will blame them for everything.

https://www.claretandhugh.info/steidten ... one-liner/



 

Be a huge embarrassment for our club and owner if he does go there and starts doing great business for them. Liverpool aren't fucking dumb with their recruitment and they don't miss on many either domestically or from abroad so they aren't going to be employing someone who is shit.

As an aside, just saw this from Sullivan's proxy. How low can you get with the tone of the article? You just know the 'Club senior source' quoted was Sullivan. 

In a simple sentence, a club senior source today – as quoted by westhamzone.com – dispelled any myth about the players Tim Steidten brought to London Stadium. “We have to improve. Summerville at £20million was the only value for money signing. We hope he’s back soon.”  So, something approaching £140 million spent on ten players. Only ONE of them has been a value- for-money signing.I’d say that’s a pretty plain (not even veiled) criticism of the Tim Steidten-led buying spree. Especially since we were led to believe months ago that the one shining light – Crysencio Summerville – was chairman Sullivan’s choice.To saddle West Ham with a defence that can’t defend (after replacing three out of four) and a midfield that can’t run is a pretty awful legacy, whoever the coach is. I’m not sure Steidten will be getting hold of the company cheque book this window.

What nasty spiteful article, even having the cheek to namecheck himself with Summerville yet again.
Cannot fathom a company boss/leader that publicly throws his staff under the bus in public like that. Disgusting behaviour. Pass the buck for every failure at YOUR business to someone else. Someone else YOU appointed in the first place. It'll be the same with the ext man who comes in, and the next man after that. The moment anything goes wrong mr shit doesn't stink will blame them for everything.

https://www.claretandhugh.info/steidten ... one-liner/

 

Might even get a fee if Steidten goes to Liverpool

Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 13:58

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 13:00 It's funny that so many thought we "won" the transfer window.

It was a shambles.

 

It has turned out to be a shambles....But at face value it seemed to be an excellent window:

Summerville
Fullkrug
Rodriguez
Soler
Todibo 
Kilman
Wan Bissaka

I mean, they covered all bases - Pacy tricky winger, striker, DM, creative mid, 2 CB's, RB.... It was only LB they didn't cover but Scarles is there. 

I don't think any of us could've seen or known about the deeper rooted issues within the squad. And I defy any West Ham fan to say that after that window they were not somewhat content. Any West Ham fan that says they were not happy with that window is just an attention seeker and point scorer.

The deeper rooted issues has to be down to the people at the club, Sulli, Tim, Lope and even Moyes (who basically ignored any responsibility for future planning). 

theaxeman wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 14:01 Look like we've got his recruitment guru from Chelsea. Assume that's the end of Steitden  (The Telegraph)

Look like we've got his recruitment guru from Chelsea. Assume that's the end of Steitden  (The Telegraph)

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 13:00 It's funny that so many thought we "won" the transfer window.

It was a shambles.

 

Poor sod has got a challenging job on his hands.

The blame and responsibility always lies with the person in charge. Sullivan. As Scorch says, 15 years of overwhelming failures in recruitment with large lis
losses. A few exceptions ( stopped clock right time twice a day analogy).  A leader pits his hands up, takes accountability and responsibility and learns from it which would mean getting experts in and fmdoing everything he can to make them successful.  

Nope its all about Sullivan. He’s got to be seen to be the “hero” such is his ego and pride.  But at every turn he fails with no awareness he is decades behind the times and cannot bear to consider he is clueless.  

Potter will have to somehow navigate around the antiquated processes and thinking Sullivan follows for recruitment. Everything Sullivan does is “ half arsed” at best. Data analytics ignored in favour of a word from his mates Salthouse, Silkman etc, a DOF who isnt a DOF but called a Tech Director with an unclear role. Steidten sounds like part scout via the analysts dept and part deal maker but all open to veto by Sullivan based on a whim, a word from an agent mate.

Amateur in the extreme. Sullivan is the rotting head if the West Ham fish 

Yup they all have their share, but there's one person steering the ship. And he created this mess by employing a manager who's philosophy clearly doesn't match up with the incumbent technical director also hired by him, leaving a big mess and three way battle over what way to go into the transfer market, with JL pulling one way, TS the other and Sullivan nixing deals he doesn't like the look of, massively overpaying or pathetically lowballing in some cases, and just doing what he wants over both their heads regardless in some cases. Sure if we believe the only players who haven't been a failure to come in this one time are his (but when are they ever not according to him) then he's done ok business for himself this time along with lining his mates pockets but the squad is still shit and that's down to him and bigger picture he's had a fucking shocker with transfers on the whole throughout his entire time here. One or two successes doesn't make up for 15 years of mostly abject failure and mismanagement and blaming everyone else except him for anything that goes wrong. Trying to make all and sundry, his own employees, the scapegoats is pathetic behaviour.

The blame needs to lie at all 3 (Sullivan, Steiden and Lopetegui).

ray winstone" wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 12:50 C&P Guardian

Hammers hampered by recruitment
West Ham’s recruitment has ruined their season. They lack energy in midfield, suitable cover for injured players in attack and now have a crisis in central defence. Tim Steidten, the club’s under-fire technical director, can hardly complain that rumours of him being shown the exit door are gathering steam. Graham Potter, the new head coach, has inherited a mess from Julen Lopetegui.
Going into the season with three senior centre-backs has backfired. The injury-prone Jean-Clair Todibo has no return date from a calf problem and the clumsy Konstantinos Mavropanos is suspended after his red card during West Ham’s 2-0 defeat by Crystal Palace, leaving Maximilian Kilman as Potter’s only centre-back for Sunday’s trip to Aston Villa. “We’ve got some options internally,” said Potter, who will consider handing a first Premier League start to the 20-year-old defender Kaelan Casey. He did not sound optimistic about his chances of signing a new centre-back this month. Jacob Steinberg

 

It's funny that so many thought we "won" the transfer window.

It was a shambles.

ray winstone" wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 12:50 C&P Guardian

Hammers hampered by recruitment
West Ham’s recruitment has ruined their season. They lack energy in midfield, suitable cover for injured players in attack and now have a crisis in central defence. Tim Steidten, the club’s under-fire technical director, can hardly complain that rumours of him being shown the exit door are gathering steam. Graham Potter, the new head coach, has inherited a mess from Julen Lopetegui.
Going into the season with three senior centre-backs has backfired. The injury-prone Jean-Clair Todibo has no return date from a calf problem and the clumsy Konstantinos Mavropanos is suspended after his red card during West Ham’s 2-0 defeat by Crystal Palace, leaving Maximilian Kilman as Potter’s only centre-back for Sunday’s trip to Aston Villa. “We’ve got some options internally,” said Potter, who will consider handing a first Premier League start to the 20-year-old defender Kaelan Casey. He did not sound optimistic about his chances of signing a new centre-back this month. Jacob Steinberg

 

Hopefully Summerville will be back for Villa and then we can play, pretty much, what we did in the first half of the cup match.

I'd be very tempted to use Alvarez in the absence of Mavropanos and bring back Scarles for Emerson.

Fabianski

AWB Alvarez Kilman

Summerville Soucek Soler Orford Scarles

Kudus Paqueta

C&P Guardian

Hammers hampered by recruitment
West Ham’s recruitment has ruined their season. They lack energy in midfield, suitable cover for injured players in attack and now have a crisis in central defence. Tim Steidten, the club’s under-fire technical director, can hardly complain that rumours of him being shown the exit door are gathering steam. Graham Potter, the new head coach, has inherited a mess from Julen Lopetegui.
Going into the season with three senior centre-backs has backfired. The injury-prone Jean-Clair Todibo has no return date from a calf problem and the clumsy Konstantinos Mavropanos is suspended after his red card during West Ham’s 2-0 defeat by Crystal Palace, leaving Maximilian Kilman as Potter’s only centre-back for Sunday’s trip to Aston Villa. “We’ve got some options internally,” said Potter, who will consider handing a first Premier League start to the 20-year-old defender Kaelan Casey. He did not sound optimistic about his chances of signing a new centre-back this month. Jacob Steinberg

One thing he should do straight away is to tell AWB to track back at more than a light jog

He is a slow builder. He did well by improving Swansea a bit in a short spell in his first UK based management spell but his 2 real successes were in Denmark Ostelands? and of course Brighton. It was faster in Denmark as the unfancied team he had achieved successive promotions from div 4 to their top division and into the Champs league in naybe 4 or 5 years max. Brighton came after that improvement seen at Swansea but with limited resources and Brighton new to the Prem and its recruitment strategy just getting underway it took a few seasons but he got them from strugglers to 9th when he left.

So its about buying some time this season and getting the 8 - 10 points asap which will allow him to start trying a few different things, using youngsters more.

But to get a few more points asap he will need a loan or 2 this window. 

GP must be still getting a look at the players, you can never completely judge a player just from training sessions. Some players will train well but don't play in real games so well and vice versa. 

What Kilman did for the first goal was almost (I said almost) unforgivable and shocked me really. Not closing down some of that space and showing him the goal is something id have a word with my 10 year old about if he did it in training let alone a match. 

Again if you look at Villas second goal a simple straight pass down the middle of the pitch and our two defensive midfielders are standing stranded in front of there attacking midfielder who is unmarked to turn and carry the ball. Absolutely school boy stuff...

He'll be seeing all this and much much more and its going to take time to turn this ship around. Like most have said this season is a write off really cos of mismanagement before his arrival but I back Potter longer term to sort it out 

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑19 Jan 2025, 19:31

Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑19 Jan 2025, 19:03

Pshyco scored all 4" wrote: ↑19 Jan 2025, 17:54 Once orford came on . I thought we moved the ball quicker. Even the commentators picked up on it . But it's not ideal to put a youngster on  in that situation. While the teams playing so poorly. We've too many old players I'm just hoping kretinsky tripp smith and Vanessa gold see the problem and sideline the dwarf once and for all .

 

I thought Orford looked out of his depth to be honest. Clearly not good enough for this level.

This is very interesting, I hope you are reading this stubbo.

The 3 people that gave a thumbs up to this post saying Orford wasn’t up to it were -

Ladysmith
Mad Ferret
COYI

The same person but with 3 profiles.

Case closed.

As for Orford he is better than Bergvall and Bissouma.