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Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

GK is the last of our worries. Aereola is decent.

The issue is that our outfield defenders need to minimise the shots he has to face. One of the reasons all this sweeper keeper stuff is so fashionable is that it's really not relying on the keeper at all to save lots of shots because the defensive setup has to be so good other teams rarely get a chance anyways. So then the keeper is free to push up an act as another defender for lots of the game.

So in reality a ball playing GK only works with a well drilled defensive setup and doesn't in itself actually make your defence better. I think we can see with Onana at Man Utd how a keeper who was known for playing out with the ball looks far worse than he should do because Man U's outfield defensive play is so poor.

 

With Potter’s “controlled possession” approach or tactics, the keeper is key to being able to probe for openings thru and around the opposition press especially if, like a lot of teams in the Premier League, they press high.  It is expected that the ball will be pinged around side to side, back and forth ( whether that is good to watch is another discussion ) and if done well and at pace, gets around or thru the press and released to the forwards to run into space.  A goalkeeper in that system needs to be a very good footballer, not just a great shot stopper and great aerially, with instant control and the ability to move his feet quickly, then play short, medium and long range passes accurately to feet. 

Areola is not that man and will limit the effectiveness of Potter’s system but with other higher priorities ( central midfield and centre forward ) may well be the number 1 for another season. All imho of course

onsideman wrote: ↑14 May 2025, 16:13

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑14 May 2025, 16:08 great shot stopper, I don't want my keeper playing it out from the back and especially not that clown ramsdale. the only reason for such a move is someone is earning out of it (name an agent)

Definitely wouldn't want Ramsdale, but there's playing out from the back and there's slicing out of play.

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑14 May 2025, 16:08 great shot stopper, I don't want my keeper playing it out from the back and especially not that clown ramsdale. the only reason for such a move is someone is earning out of it (name an agent)

great shot stopper, I don't want my keeper playing it out from the back and especially not that clown ramsdale. the only reason for such a move is someone is earning out of it (name an agent)

It puzzles a bit me that so many WHU fans want to bin off Aerola.

I remember things like him keeping us in the game against Man Utd with a couple of worldies.

There's so many positions we're actually crying out for a huge improvement on.  GOALTENDING isn't one of them, in my eyes.

I'm not "yet" convinced by Kelleher. He hasn't played that many Premier League games at Liverpool (ten last season, ten the season before that) and, when he did, some analysts thought he was not physically dominant and a bit weak in the air for a Prem keeper. Good shot-stopper, of course. But he looks and sounds a lot like Areola without the experience.

Surely we want any replacement for Fabianski to be a likely starter? Gut feeling is that Kelleher would be behind Areola.

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑14 May 2025, 15:11 I reckon he's overrated. One of them that done ok behind that Liverpool defence, and suddenly he's a world beater. Never seen the fuss on the odd occasion I've seen him.

 

I reckon he's overrated. One of them that done ok behind that Liverpool defence, and suddenly he's a world beater. Never seen the fuss on the odd occasion I've seen him.
 

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 18:00 If Kelleher of Liverpool is available for £20m as was reported I’d have a go for him
Reckon you could sell Areola for £10m to £15m to a European club to partially fund that

Fat, Bald n 50" wrote: ↑14 May 2025, 12:19

Ladysmith wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025, 22:42 I have said it all along I would rather have Moyes any day of the week.

A Tottenham fan would say that.

Ladysmith wrote: ↑01 Apr 2025, 22:42 I have said it all along I would rather have Moyes any day of the week.

The first goal had “ if only” written all over it. However, if we’d been playing Brentford their energy and directness would likely have beaten us. 
we need some more speed and energy.

XKhammer wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 21:49

goose wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 18:57 People’s expectations are now so low that we will be happy with any old shit.
Nothing can we worse than this season surely?

Why ain't you digging me out like after the Spurs game?..oh because we won...you must be gutted

goose wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 18:57 People’s expectations are now so low that we will be happy with any old shit.
Nothing can we worse than this season surely?

Maverick180180 wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 16:00

Nutsin wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 15:56

Maverick180180 wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 15:50

Wasn’t having a dig, just saying one of the reasons we won was cos Areola made 2 quality saves, not saying he had shots raining down on him the whole time, it was just I wouldn’t expect many keepers to make 1 of those 2 saves let alone both 

just cos I’m not a fan of Potter don’t mean I’m not a fan of West Ham 

So credit to Potter for selecting him then.

Never once slated him for picking Areola 

if I’m being honest about Areola, do I think we could find a better keeper? Yes, but I don’t think it would be a big improvement, he’s not one of the issues we have and we’d be far better off spending money which apparently we don’t have much of elsewhere 

If we can find the budget then I’d definitely bring in two keepers and ditch areola.

I think it was south bank who posted up a list of very good keepers playing in Italy at the moment. None of whom would cost anything close to the numbers British teams want.

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 18:00 If Kelleher of Liverpool is available for £20m as was reported I’d have a go for him
Reckon you could sell Areola for £10m to £15m to a European club to partially fund that

Kelleher couldnt save a pea roller from bulgaria v ireland. Hes shite.
Areola stays No1 next season. Unless he wants out. 
We need a replacement for Fab.

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I’ll never complain about a win, especially at Old Trafford.

But that was probably the worst Man Utd team I’ve seen in my lifetime - and six of their starting line up won’t start the Europa League final.

So, we basically turned over their stiffs.

It’s a win, it’s three points. Fair play to Partridge. But let’s see him follow it up against a Forest side desperate for the points, and then a relegated Ipswich mob.

People’s expectations are now so low that we will be happy with any old shit.
Nothing can we worse than this season surely?

Yep, imo too, Areola is not good enough with his feet and short, medium and definitely long range passing for the controlled possession game Potter is trying to implement.  

Ordinarily, I'd have said Areola is the last of our problems, were it not for the crab football that we're going to be playing from now.

Given that we go sideways and back mostly with our passing, usually ending up back with Areola, and he's just lumping it forward with no conviction whatsoever. So yeah, we probably do need a keeper with top distribution over actual keeping ability. He probably sees more of the ball than anyone with this style.

Never thought I'd be saying that, but it is what it is.

If Kelleher of Liverpool is available for £20m as was reported I’d have a go for him
Reckon you could sell Areola for £10m to £15m to a European club to partially fund that

Nutsin wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 15:56

Maverick180180 wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 15:50

Nutsin wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 15:28

It’s unlike you to give praise, I thought you were having another dig at Potter because Areola bailed us out by playing well.

However if you’re giving praise then I agree, he’s playing well as usual.

Wasn’t having a dig, just saying one of the reasons we won was cos Areola made 2 quality saves, not saying he had shots raining down on him the whole time, it was just I wouldn’t expect many keepers to make 1 of those 2 saves let alone both 

just cos I’m not a fan of Potter don’t mean I’m not a fan of West Ham 

So credit to Potter for selecting him then.

Maverick180180 wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 15:50

Nutsin wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 15:28

Maverick180180 wrote: ↑12 May 2025, 12:53

 

So he doesn’t deserve praise for making a save that a lot of other keepers in the league would’ve unlikely made the first time of asking 

It’s unlike you to give praise, I thought you were having another dig at Potter because Areola bailed us out by playing well.

However if you’re giving praise then I agree, he’s playing well as usual.

Wasn’t having a dig, just saying one of the reasons we won was cos Areola made 2 quality saves, not saying he had shots raining down on him the whole time, it was just I wouldn’t expect many keepers to make 1 of those 2 saves let alone both 

just cos I’m not a fan of Potter don’t mean I’m not a fan of West Ham