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goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:16Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:13goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:01 Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.So desperate!They’re facts.
The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:13goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:01 Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.So desperate!
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:13goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:01 Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.So desperate!
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:01 Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 19:28Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 19:19goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:43But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.
And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.
Which manufacturing is relocating to America?I already posted the list, there are plenty listed there and that’s just the beginning. Wait and see all the new investments that are announced with the new trade agreements. You’ll be crying in your corn flakes.
Not to mention the removal of Tariffs that were in place levied against the US companies d trade barriers that were in place.
Gonna be hilarious watching you squirm with your petty whataboutism’s.
Poor old goose thinks he is having his Spartacus moment!
fucking Bozo! Ag ag ag!A list of ‘investments’ which were by and large planned before Trump took charge. Brilliant. Reminds me of the conservatives and their new hospitals which weren’t actually new.
All of which will cost more in borrowing thanks to Trump.
whereas the first real opportunity to move manufacturing to the US by one the globes biggest manufacturers…….. and they said no. There’s a reason all of these companies offshore this stuff, and tariffs doesn’t change that.
Tariffs that were such a great idea that the markets shit their pants and forced Trump to make an embarrassing U-turn. Let me know when the US starts making iPhones like Trump said they would.
only1billybonds wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 16:29 Think Reform are gaining so much support with many whose attitude is "fuck it,why not. The Tories were next to useless in the end and Labour are shambolic after only 9 months in office. Starmer is seen as an absolute coward/liar/fraud by many and the feeling is the country is at its lowest ebb since the war so let's give something new a try.
Saying all that, there's no doubt that Labour or the Tories will find a way to sneak back in next time.
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 19:19goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:43Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:32Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose.
Thats a fact.
As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?
well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!
Gotta laugh at this Bozo!But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.
And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.
Which manufacturing is relocating to America?I already posted the list, there are plenty listed there and that’s just the beginning. Wait and see all the new investments that are announced with the new trade agreements. You’ll be crying in your corn flakes.
Not to mention the removal of Tariffs that were in place levied against the US companies d trade barriers that were in place.
Gonna be hilarious watching you squirm with your petty whataboutism’s.
Poor old goose thinks he is having his Spartacus moment!
fucking Bozo! Ag ag ag!
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:43Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:32goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:47Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?
So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.
make India great again
Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose.
Thats a fact.
As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?
well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!
Gotta laugh at this Bozo!But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.
And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.
Which manufacturing is relocating to America?
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:32goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:47Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?
So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.
make India great againTariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose.
Thats a fact.
As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?
well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!
Gotta laugh at this Bozo!
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:47Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?
So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.
make India great again
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:18goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:51Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:44Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!
Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.
Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?
The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs.Gotta laugh at your desperation!
Poor Goose, looking for any little prayer he can cling on to.
Tariffs have been around for 1 month.
Oops!
ag ag ag ag!
ag ag ag ag!
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 13:39goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 07:58Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 00:12So the sky isn’t falling now then?
All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.
Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’
LOL!
Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?
India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.
Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.
Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive.
absolute genius
the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.
Here you go lying again.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/
And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been.
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.
China will do more to stop Fetanyl
IP laws will have to be followed
Dumping will have to stop
Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.
And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.
So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.
Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.
All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:51Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:44goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:04Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.
Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.
No US jobs have been created.
deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol
https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/
“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”
Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!
Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.
Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?
The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs.
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 09:48 Billy, agreed the Conservatives have been decimated. Badenoch has to go.
My choice would be Jacob Rees Mogg
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:04 Bungo, a lot of people in the party don't like him for his anachronistic views, it's not for nothing that Jacob Rees Mogg is known as the honourable member for the eighteenth century, which gets my vote.
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:44goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:04Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 13:39Here you go lying again.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/
And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been.
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.
China will do more to stop Fetanyl
IP laws will have to be followed
Dumping will have to stop
Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.
And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.
So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.
Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.
All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.
Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.
No US jobs have been created.
deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol
https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/
“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”
Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!
Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.
Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:04Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 13:39goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 07:58Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive.
absolute genius
the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.
Here you go lying again.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/
And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been.
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.
China will do more to stop Fetanyl
IP laws will have to be followed
Dumping will have to stop
Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.
And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.
So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.
Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.
All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.
Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.
No US jobs have been created.
deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol
https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/
“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 13:39goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 07:58Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 00:12So the sky isn’t falling now then?
All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.
Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’
LOL!
Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?
India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.
Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.
Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive.
absolute genius
the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.
Here you go lying again.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/
And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been.
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.
China will do more to stop Fetanyl
IP laws will have to be followed
Dumping will have to stop
Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.
And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.
So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.
Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.
All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 07:58Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 00:12So the sky isn’t falling now then?
All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.
Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’
LOL!
Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?
India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.
Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.
Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive.
absolute genius
the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 09:48 Billy, agreed the Conservatives have been decimated. Badenoch has to go.
My choice would be Jacob Rees Mogg
