Zer Germans win.!

[RBshorty]

Tommy TwoSheds becomes the next England manager. 

[Sir Alf]

Its got to the point after almost 60 years where we’d take anyone who might actually win something.  

If Moyes can win the 3rd tier European trophy then Twosheds winning the Nations League is possible

i’d be happy with that even. Thats how desperate its got.

As soon as he picks Kane and only players from the “rich 6” clubs though, he’s dead to me

[Russ of the BML]

Did Howe ever rule himself out?  I've seen no direct quotes from him saying that.

Shearer is saying that the FA didn't even bother contacting Howe about the job.  But they are complete idiots.

 

I don't think so literally. But I did hear Simon Jordan say that the FA had asked Newcastle to talk to Howe and they Objected. They then subsequently told the FA if Howe wants to talk then they cannot stop him but will be demanding huge compensation if selected. Howe never spoke to the FA so I suppose I am taking from this that he never pushed or asked Newcastle to let him talk to the FA. 

I suppose its all conjuncture and guess work. But, let's be honest, if Howe really wanted it then in todays society it is very easy to slip some info to the media to get ears pricked and tongues wagging. That never happened so, again, I assume that was down to Howe. 

He'd be a VERY brave man to go behind the Saudi's backs. 

Well, yes, you do have a valid point!

[Mad Ferret]

And been removed from those clubs because of his own ego.
 

Yeah removed after winning things.

I'd take that all day long with England!

[Lee Trundle]

To be honest, I have seen so much disappointment in my lifetime supporting England I have reached the point where I am open to anything. We had Capello and Sven who were both foreign so I really don't see why people are upset about this. So what if he is German, surely we have all moved on and grown up to get over that now. 

I am pretty pleased with the appointment. It's a complete shift from the blandness of Southgate, who won nothing before he got the England job. And won nothing with arguably the best crop of England players. And potentially, whilst I originally advocated the appointment of Carsley, having now seen that he is a bland, naive, I-pad hugging, uninspiring slug, the FA have avoided another disaster. 

Tuchel's CV speaks for itself. He wins trophies. And fundamentally that's what its all about. He can handle the big jobs and the expectation. He also has a good personality and is able to talk to the press without making himself look like a 5 year old child (unlike Carsley). 

In an ideal world we do have an Englishman. But Howe ruled himself out so where do you go? Dyche? Potter? The bloke at Soton who I don't even know his name? Compare their CV's to Tuchel. Absolutely laughable. Even Howe has won nothing and was our best English candidate. 

These ex-pro's and pundits can bleat as much as they like. But these are the same people bleating when Southgate was snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and when Carsley played Bellingham as a striker and left Watkins on the bench. So these people need to suck it up and shut up. 

The FA are a bunch of incompetent, money stealing cob-web men. Sitting in their ivory tower and looking down at the rest of us. But here they have made a progressive decision for once. Tuchel's main challenge won't be to get this current crop of potential world beaters to gel and play some decent football and win a trophy. I think it will be working with the FA who, personally, I see as the core fundamental reason as to why we haven't won a trophy since '66. 





 

Did Howe ever rule himself out?  I've seen no direct quotes from him saying that.

Shearer is saying that the FA didn't even bother contacting Howe about the job.  But they are complete idiots.

 

I don't think so literally. But I did hear Simon Jordan say that the FA had asked Newcastle to talk to Howe and they Objected. They then subsequently told the FA if Howe wants to talk then they cannot stop him but will be demanding huge compensation if selected. Howe never spoke to the FA so I suppose I am taking from this that he never pushed or asked Newcastle to let him talk to the FA. 

I suppose its all conjuncture and guess work. But, let's be honest, if Howe really wanted it then in todays society it is very easy to slip some info to the media to get ears pricked and tongues wagging. That never happened so, again, I assume that was down to Howe. 

He'd be a VERY brave man to go behind the Saudi's backs. 

[Russ of the BML]

One good thing about Tuchel, is that he's an self professed anglophile.

He's probably more patriotic than a few of his hangers on.

Probably more the plastic paddy Carsley. 

[Russ of the BML]

To be honest, I have seen so much disappointment in my lifetime supporting England I have reached the point where I am open to anything. We had Capello and Sven who were both foreign so I really don't see why people are upset about this. So what if he is German, surely we have all moved on and grown up to get over that now. 

I am pretty pleased with the appointment. It's a complete shift from the blandness of Southgate, who won nothing before he got the England job. And won nothing with arguably the best crop of England players. And potentially, whilst I originally advocated the appointment of Carsley, having now seen that he is a bland, naive, I-pad hugging, uninspiring slug, the FA have avoided another disaster. 

Tuchel's CV speaks for itself. He wins trophies. And fundamentally that's what its all about. He can handle the big jobs and the expectation. He also has a good personality and is able to talk to the press without making himself look like a 5 year old child (unlike Carsley). 

In an ideal world we do have an Englishman. But Howe ruled himself out so where do you go? Dyche? Potter? The bloke at Soton who I don't even know his name? Compare their CV's to Tuchel. Absolutely laughable. Even Howe has won nothing and was our best English candidate. 

These ex-pro's and pundits can bleat as much as they like. But these are the same people bleating when Southgate was snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and when Carsley played Bellingham as a striker and left Watkins on the bench. So these people need to suck it up and shut up. 

The FA are a bunch of incompetent, money stealing cob-web men. Sitting in their ivory tower and looking down at the rest of us. But here they have made a progressive decision for once. Tuchel's main challenge won't be to get this current crop of potential world beaters to gel and play some decent football and win a trophy. I think it will be working with the FA who, personally, I see as the core fundamental reason as to why we haven't won a trophy since '66. 




 

Did Howe ever rule himself out?  I've seen no direct quotes from him saying that.

Shearer is saying that the FA didn't even bother contacting Howe about the job.  But they are complete idiots.

 

 

I don't think so literally. But I did hear Simon Jordan say that the FA had asked Newcastle to talk to Howe and they Objected. They then subsequently told the FA if Howe wants to talk then they cannot stop him but will be demanding huge compensation if selected. Howe never spoke to the FA so I suppose I am taking from this that he never pushed or asked Newcastle to let him talk to the FA. 

I suppose its all conjuncture and guess work. But, let's be honest, if Howe really wanted it then in todays society it is very easy to slip some info to the media to get ears pricked and tongues wagging. That never happened so, again, I assume that was down to Howe. 

[Lee Trundle]

One good thing about Tuchel, is that he's an self professed anglophile.

He's probably more patriotic than a few of his hangers on.

[Council Scum]

And been removed from those clubs because of his own ego.

What makes Howe boring? 

[Mad Ferret]

"So the FA should pay compensation to Newcastle to get Howe just because he’s English, when there was a far superior manager, who has actually won things, freely available."

Won things at clubs that always win things? Amazing. Not much of an argument is it. But then I don't expect you are able to make one. 

He’s won things at clubs containing top players with big egos, much like the current England squad.

One of the best cup managers in the world.

Nah let’s give it to the painfully dull and average Howe just cos he’s English. 

[Fauxstralian]

Howe is a young manager with a Premier league job at a club with lots of money
Why on earth would he give that up for the England job ?

Might think about it in about 15 years

[Council Scum]

"So the FA should pay compensation to Newcastle to get Howe just because he’s English, when there was a far superior manager, who has actually won things, freely available."

Won things at clubs that always win things? Amazing. Not much of an argument is it. But then I don't expect you are able to make one. 

[violator]

The only reason why I would have wanted Howe to get it was to open up a slot for Moyes or Southgate to get the Newcastle job, and shut that cսnt Shearer up.

[Lee Trundle]

Yes, because he's clearly English.  But I don't rate him as a manager so I wouldn't have wanted him either.

Nice to know my opinion matters so much to you.

[Mad Ferret]

If Carsley had got the job, we would’ve had a plastic paddy who refused to sing the anthem.

Would he have been English enough for you?

[Lee Trundle]

Yes, because he's the best English manager for the job.

Did you not fully understand when I said I'd prefer an Englishman in charge?

[Mad Ferret]

So the FA should pay compensation to Newcastle to get Howe just because he’s English, when there was a far superior manager, who has actually won things, freely available.

I really don’t get the obsession with Howe. I’m not even sure what style of play he employs? All I know is that Newcastle are one of the more snidey teams in the PL.

Also, imagine having that cսnt Tindall in and around the England setup.

[Lee Trundle]

To be honest, I have seen so much disappointment in my lifetime supporting England I have reached the point where I am open to anything. We had Capello and Sven who were both foreign so I really don't see why people are upset about this. So what if he is German, surely we have all moved on and grown up to get over that now. 

I am pretty pleased with the appointment. It's a complete shift from the blandness of Southgate, who won nothing before he got the England job. And won nothing with arguably the best crop of England players. And potentially, whilst I originally advocated the appointment of Carsley, having now seen that he is a bland, naive, I-pad hugging, uninspiring slug, the FA have avoided another disaster. 

Tuchel's CV speaks for itself. He wins trophies. And fundamentally that's what its all about. He can handle the big jobs and the expectation. He also has a good personality and is able to talk to the press without making himself look like a 5 year old child (unlike Carsley). 

In an ideal world we do have an Englishman. But Howe ruled himself out so where do you go? Dyche? Potter? The bloke at Soton who I don't even know his name? Compare their CV's to Tuchel. Absolutely laughable. Even Howe has won nothing and was our best English candidate. 

These ex-pro's and pundits can bleat as much as they like. But these are the same people bleating when Southgate was snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and when Carsley played Bellingham as a striker and left Watkins on the bench. So these people need to suck it up and shut up. 

The FA are a bunch of incompetent, money stealing cob-web men. Sitting in their ivory tower and looking down at the rest of us. But here they have made a progressive decision for once. Tuchel's main challenge won't be to get this current crop of potential world beaters to gel and play some decent football and win a trophy. I think it will be working with the FA who, personally, I see as the core fundamental reason as to why we haven't won a trophy since '66. 


 

Did Howe ever rule himself out?  I've seen no direct quotes from him saying that.

Shearer is saying that the FA didn't even bother contacting Howe about the job.  But they are complete idiots.

[Texas Iron]

Would you allow the President or PM to be a mercenary politician…? ? ?



 

[Texas Iron]

I believe the manager/coach should be the same nationality as the team…

Not a hired hand mercenary…

it is The National Team…F F S …

[Hammer and Pickle]

The FA being what it is, I don’t like his connection to Abramovich from his Chelsea days. But I will reserve judgment until I see what he turns out on the pitch.

[Russ of the BML]

The players probably need a bit of a rocket after mr nicey nicey.
I hope he comes in and tells them none of them have a guaranteed place and not one of them is bigger than the team and they will get picked on form rather than reputation. Thinking of the likes of Kane Bellingham and Saka here. I get the feeling he won;t care if some of his players don;t like it. And I hope he is strong enough to tell the media and the player himself that TAA doesn't have a divine right to be shoehorned into the team just because he can take free kicks and play the odd lovely long ball. If he's not the best right back available, then he doesn't start. He certainly doesn't get picked in a different position over a specialist in that position.

On that I also hope he just concentrates on picking the players that best fit the system he wants to play rather than bending it round squeezing in the best 11 players. Only room for one of Foden or Palmer, or Gordon or Grelish? Well then one of them must ride the bench.

Tuchel certainly wasn't my first choice but you don't know who they approached and who was available or turned it down, but he's not a bad manager and he knows how to win things. He's not going to be a media darling like Gareth and they are going to do in dry on him if we don;t do really well right away and in every match. Just hope they don;t hound him out of the job.

As a side note, I can't believe Shearer said he thought Carsley should get it. FFS.

Good post. 100% agree with all that.

You mention Shearer. But that pillock Harry actually said today that if Howe ruled himself out then it should go to Lampard or Gerrard, or even better, both of them. I mean, fuck me, these fucking idiots get paid for this drivel. 

[Russ of the BML]

To be honest, I have seen so much disappointment in my lifetime supporting England I have reached the point where I am open to anything. We had Capello and Sven who were both foreign so I really don't see why people are upset about this. So what if he is German, surely we have all moved on and grown up to get over that now. 

I am pretty pleased with the appointment. It's a complete shift from the blandness of Southgate, who won nothing before he got the England job. And won nothing with arguably the best crop of England players. And potentially, whilst I originally advocated the appointment of Carsley, having now seen that he is a bland, naive, I-pad hugging, uninspiring slug, the FA have avoided another disaster. 

Tuchel's CV speaks for itself. He wins trophies. And fundamentally that's what its all about. He can handle the big jobs and the expectation. He also has a good personality and is able to talk to the press without making himself look like a 5 year old child (unlike Carsley). 

In an ideal world we do have an Englishman. But Howe ruled himself out so where do you go? Dyche? Potter? The bloke at Soton who I don't even know his name? Compare their CV's to Tuchel. Absolutely laughable. Even Howe has won nothing and was our best English candidate. 

These ex-pro's and pundits can bleat as much as they like. But these are the same people bleating when Southgate was snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and when Carsley played Bellingham as a striker and left Watkins on the bench. So these people need to suck it up and shut up. 

The FA are a bunch of incompetent, money stealing cob-web men. Sitting in their ivory tower and looking down at the rest of us. But here they have made a progressive decision for once. Tuchel's main challenge won't be to get this current crop of potential world beaters to gel and play some decent football and win a trophy. I think it will be working with the FA who, personally, I see as the core fundamental reason as to why we haven't won a trophy since '66. 

 

[El Scorchio]

The players probably need a bit of a rocket after mr nicey nicey.
I hope he comes in and tells them none of them have a guaranteed place and not one of them is bigger than the team and they will get picked on form rather than reputation. Thinking of the likes of Kane Bellingham and Saka here. I get the feeling he won;t care if some of his players don;t like it. And I hope he is strong enough to tell the media and the player himself that TAA doesn't have a divine right to be shoehorned into the team just because he can take free kicks and play the odd lovely long ball. If he's not the best right back available, then he doesn't start. He certainly doesn't get picked in a different position over a specialist in that position.

On that I also hope he just concentrates on picking the players that best fit the system he wants to play rather than bending it round squeezing in the best 11 players. Only room for one of Foden or Palmer, or Gordon or Grelish? Well then one of them must ride the bench.

Tuchel certainly wasn't my first choice but you don't know who they approached and who was available or turned it down, but he's not a bad manager and he knows how to win things. He's not going to be a media darling like Gareth and they are going to do in dry on him if we don;t do really well right away and in every match. Just hope they don;t hound him out of the job.

As a side note, I can't believe Shearer said he thought Carsley should get it. FFS.

[Council Scum]

Really?

Borussia Dortmund
DFB-Pokal: 2016–17

Paris Saint-Germain
Ligue 1: 2018–19, 2019–20
Coupe de France: 2019–20
Coupe de la Ligue: 2019–20
Trophée des Champions: 2018, 2019

Chelsea
UEFA Champions League: 2020–21
UEFA Super Cup: 2021
FIFA Club World Cup: 2021

Bayern Munich
Bundesliga: 2022–23

And that makes him better because he's been at bigger more successful clubs? Go on.... 

[Swiss.]

Quite a brave and unexpected move from the FA as Tuchel is known to have a short fuse. Could end up in big disaster especially with the prima donnas in the dressing room or a our first WC win since 1966. 

Interesting though. 

And I'm really not bothered by his nationality.