Perfect weather conditions, immaculate Boeing safety record on a newer plane, flight from India to London. Possible Terrorist attack or human error?
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 19 Jun 2025, 16:36
by Massive Attack
And GSB managed to hoodwink a fanbase in to believing moving to the Olympic Stadium would make them compete for a Champions League spot and not solely about making them filthy rich.
..Oh no wait, that one's definitely true.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 19 Jun 2025, 16:29
by Collins Wong - A Free Man
Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025, 16:06
Melting point of steel
Controlled demolition
Windows were painted on
Yadda
I miss Ron Antley. He was a loop, but he was also a gentleman.
9/11 was an inside job. None of my mates down the pub disagree.
7/7 was also an inside job. People died, but the bombs were planted under the carriages.
The Madrid bombings took place 911 days after 9/11.
The Titanic didn't sink: it's the Olympic down there. They switched them for insurance purposes.
The Moon is a hollowed-out planetoid, built by aliens. It is 400x smaller than the sun and 400x nearer the Earth. That isn't a coincidence. It's been built and put there deliberately as a blocking frequency.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 19 Jun 2025, 16:06
by Nurse Ratched
Melting point of steel
Controlled demolition
Windows were painted on
Yadda
I miss Ron Antley. He was a loop, but he was also a gentleman.
Swiss. wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 10:49
As they have rules out bird strike then it must be fuel contamination. Recon one lf the aiport staff has been siphoning off the fuel and replacing it with methanol.
That doesn't make sense, why siphon of kerosene and replace it with methanol?
If caught they would be potentially liable for murder.
I not too serious it being Methanol ref the Bali thing but for sure they could be using lower grade fuel to save money.
Or maybe the intruments were wrong and they forgot to re-fuel. A technical failure of both engines is near impossible so my money is on the fuel.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 11:08
by Far Cough UKunt
Swiss. wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 10:49
As they have rules out bird strike then it must be fuel contamination. Recon one lf the aiport staff has been siphoning off the fuel and replacing it with methanol.
That doesn't make sense, why siphon of kerosene and replace it with methanol?
If caught they would be potentially liable for murder.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 10:49
by Swiss.
As they have rules out bird strike then it must be fuel contamination. Recon one lf the aiport staff has been siphoning off the fuel and replacing it with methanol.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 03:38
by Westham67
The pilot had a dodgy Tikka
Daal 999
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 17 Jun 2025, 15:36
by Swiss.
I always said it was all about the RAT.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 17 Jun 2025, 15:24
by Swiss.
Apologies if already posted but here is the reason for the crash
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 14 Jun 2025, 11:21
by XKhammer
OK now please remember no more nasty jokes about the crash as remember someone's naan was on board
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 14 Jun 2025, 11:19
by XKhammer
Boeing have now killed more Indains than John Wayne
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 18:36
by Mike Oxsaw
Mr Anon" wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 18:15
just seen another angle of the full take off, look's like it was in trouble almost immediately, used the whole runway and kicked up some dirt at the end
That would suggest that not enough power was applied to / available from the engines at a critical moment.
A bird strike at "rotate" speed could be one cause - another could be that the reported take-off load weight as relayed to the pilot was incorrect, either through excess, undocumented checked-in baggage or cargo and, possibly, lax carry-on baggage checks; some (more that "some" in many cases) want to bring the entire contents of their kitchens as carry-on baggage, including the sink & plumbing - I've even been on a flight in that part of the world where an old git brought on board a live adult goat as part of his carry-on allowance.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 18:15
by Mr Anon
just seen another angle of the full take off, look's like it was in trouble almost immediately, used the whole runway and kicked up some dirt at the end
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 18:12
by Far Cough UKunt
Positive rate is any vertical speed that you are climbing. i.e. greater than zero. You don't want to raise the gear too early in the takeoff. If you did and settled back down on the runway you would damage and/or destroy the aircraft. It's best to be climbing above 100 to 200 feet AGL before raising the gear.
Google.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 18:05
by Mr Anon
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 17:21
I doubt it, gear lever normally is on the panel where the instruments are, the flaps lever is on the console down where the throttles are? I think it would be very hard to make that mistake?
They left the gear down because they didn't have positive climb.
no expert but surely you raise the gear and power up with no positive climb?
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 17:34
by Mike Oxsaw
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 17:21
I doubt it, gear lever normally is on the panel where the instruments are, the flaps lever is on the console down where the throttles are? I think it would be very hard to make that mistake?
They left the gear down because they didn't have positive climb.
I hear all that. All plausible.
Maybe the power failed the moment they left the runway (which might suggest a very low-level bird strike from a (large) flock not visible on the crash video doing the rounds) so the gear couldn't be raised anyway; when you fly you generally hear/feel the landing gear being raised/stowed within a few seconds of take-off.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 17:27
by XKhammer
Of course he was on the plane'he was found with boarding pass and walked out of building plane crashed into brusied and cut.........fucking conspiracy theorists have to twist and make up shit on everything
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 17:21
by Far Cough UKunt
I doubt it, gear lever normally is on the panel where the instruments are, the flaps lever is on the console down where the throttles are? I think it would be very hard to make that mistake?
They left the gear down because they didn't have positive climb.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 16:55
by Lee Trundle
I just watched a video from a commercial pilot who thinks the co pilot (who was VERY inexperienced) may have pulled the FLAPS lever instead of the lever to pull up the undercarriage.
That would answer why the landing gear was down and why there was so much drag to the plane meaning it couldn't climb.
He did say it was only a theory amongst the many others out there.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 16:42
by Fauxstralian
Wasn’t suggesting some conspiracy
Just curious as to how he had the luck to maybe get thrown clear when the wreckage seemed to be a mess of burning bits of metal & not even recognisable as a plane
Thats beyond lucky
He had got himself a British passport. The king specifically requests that you are 'protected'. Those words still carry some weight even these days its seems.
Re: Air India crash
Posted: 13 Jun 2025, 10:28
by Mr Anon
we have a Leicester based office so 3 or 4 of my team know someone that died, including the grandparents with their 2 year old grandson, very sad
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 08:22
One person walking away is just amazing
Be interested to hear how 11A survived when you see the wreckage
Think the early reports are of bird strikes
I reckon he wasn't on the plane, just saw it, went and dusted himself off and will now come over here and sell his story and make a fortune
must have been a huge coincidence his brother was on the plane then
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 08:22
One person walking away is just amazing
Be interested to hear how 11A survived when you see the wreckage
Think the early reports are of bird strikes
I reckon he wasn't on the plane, just saw it, went and dusted himself off and will now come over here and sell his story and make a fortune
In which case he gets 10/10 full marks for creativity. Good luck to him I say.
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025, 08:22
One person walking away is just amazing
Be interested to hear how 11A survived when you see the wreckage
Think the early reports are of bird strikes
I reckon he wasn't on the plane, just saw it, went and dusted himself off and will now come over here and sell his story and make a fortune
