Air India crash

[Massive Attack]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... st-updates

Perfect weather conditions, immaculate Boeing safety record on a newer plane, flight from India to London. Possible Terrorist attack or human error?

[Massive Attack]

Here geez, I found this the other day, were you looking for it?

Cheers, mate. Don't suppose you found a parrot, too?

Only a dead Norwegian Blue.

[Amputee Actor again]

Here geez, I found this the other day, were you looking for it?

Cheers, mate. Don't suppose you found a parrot, too?

[Massive Attack]

Here geez, I found this the other day, were you looking for it?

[Amputee Actor again]

All Actors. Even the people that died in it.

Shhh!

[Westham67]

Ron A shot JFK FACT

[Collins Wong - A Free Man]

Still the only 3 buildings (yes, 3 - building 7) whose collapses were due to fire. Funny that. 

[Massive Attack]

All Actors. Even the people that died in it.

[Nurse Ratched]

Arf! The bit that made me cackle the most was 'It was a US military plane made to look like a passenger jet and the windows were painted on'

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Melting point of steel

Controlled demolition 

Windows were painted on

Yadda 

I miss Ron Antley. He was a loop, but he was also a gentleman. 

I particularly love that 'melting point  of steel' one.

SAX20: So, Ron. You don't think steel might buckle and weaken a bit before it actually melts?
Antly: ***fucks off for a few days***

[Massive Attack]

And GSB managed to hoodwink a fanbase in to believing moving to the Olympic Stadium would make them compete for a Champions League spot and not solely about making them filthy rich.

..Oh no wait, that one's definitely true.

[Collins Wong - A Free Man]

Melting point of steel

Controlled demolition 

Windows were painted on

Yadda 

I miss Ron Antley. He was a loop, but he was also a gentleman. 

9/11 was an inside job. None of my mates down the pub disagree.

7/7 was also an inside job. People died, but the bombs were planted under the carriages. 

The Madrid bombings took place 911 days after 9/11.

The Titanic didn't sink: it's the Olympic down there. They switched them for insurance purposes.

The Moon is a hollowed-out planetoid, built by aliens. It is 400x smaller than the sun and 400x nearer the Earth. That isn't a coincidence. It's been built and put there deliberately as a blocking frequency.

[Nurse Ratched]

Melting point of steel

Controlled demolition 

Windows were painted on

Yadda 

I miss Ron Antley. He was a loop, but he was also a gentleman. 

[Swiss.]

As they have rules out bird strike then it must be fuel contamination. Recon one lf the aiport staff has been siphoning off the fuel and replacing it with methanol. 

That doesn't make sense, why siphon of kerosene and replace it with methanol?

If caught they would be potentially liable for murder.

I not too serious it being Methanol ref the Bali thing but for sure they could be using lower grade fuel to save money. 

Or maybe the intruments were wrong and they forgot to re-fuel. A technical failure of both engines is near impossible so my money is on the fuel. 

[Far Cough UKunt]

As they have rules out bird strike then it must be fuel contamination. Recon one lf the aiport staff has been siphoning off the fuel and replacing it with methanol. 

That doesn't make sense, why siphon of kerosene and replace it with methanol?

If caught they would be potentially liable for murder.

[Swiss.]

As they have rules out bird strike then it must be fuel contamination. Recon one lf the aiport staff has been siphoning off the fuel and replacing it with methanol. 

[Westham67]

The pilot had a dodgy Tikka

Daal 999

[Swiss.]

I always said it was all about the RAT. 

[Swiss.]

Apologies if already posted but here is the reason for the crash

[XKhammer]

OK now please remember no more nasty jokes about the crash as remember someone's naan was on board 

[XKhammer]

Boeing have now killed more Indains than John Wayne 

[Mike Oxsaw]

just seen another angle of the full take off, look's like it was in trouble almost immediately, used the whole runway and kicked up some dirt at the end

That would suggest that not enough power was applied to / available from the engines at a critical moment.

A bird strike at "rotate" speed could be one cause - another could be that the reported take-off load weight as  relayed to the pilot was incorrect, either through excess, undocumented checked-in baggage or cargo and, possibly, lax carry-on baggage checks; some (more that "some" in many cases) want to bring the entire contents of their kitchens as carry-on baggage, including the sink & plumbing - I've even been on a flight in that part of the world where an old git brought on board a live adult goat as part of his carry-on allowance.

[Mr Anon]

just seen another angle of the full take off, look's like it was in trouble almost immediately, used the whole runway and kicked up some dirt at the end

[Far Cough UKunt]

Positive rate is any vertical speed that you are climbing. i.e. greater than zero. You don't want to raise the gear too early in the takeoff. If you did and settled back down on the runway you would damage and/or destroy the aircraft. It's best to be climbing above 100 to 200 feet AGL before raising the gear.

Google.

[Mr Anon]

I doubt it, gear lever normally is on the panel where the instruments are, the flaps lever is on the console down where the throttles are? I think it would be very hard to make that mistake?

They left the gear down because they didn't have positive climb.

no expert but surely you raise the gear and power up with no positive climb? 

[Mike Oxsaw]

I doubt it, gear lever normally is on the panel where the instruments are, the flaps lever is on the console down where the throttles are? I think it would be very hard to make that mistake?

They left the gear down because they didn't have positive climb.

I hear all that. All plausible.

Maybe the power failed the moment they left the runway (which might suggest a very low-level bird strike from a (large) flock not visible on the crash video doing the rounds) so the gear couldn't be raised anyway; when you fly you generally hear/feel the landing gear being raised/stowed within a few seconds of take-off.