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goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 22:00Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 21:48goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:53I laid out the demand weakness in the GDP figures, you side-stepped it because you couldn't answer the question.
he's not bringing inflation down, in fact he is deliberately making decisions that push inflation up.
same with the debt, taking deliberate decisions that everyone knows will increase that debt.I addressed all your concerns several times over. I take it youno longer respect what CNN says about the economy then, because I posted a link from CNN that spells out consumer spending is up.
You’re just bitter because Trump has come out way ahead on all these trade agreements.
Poor GooseWeak consumer demand I said.
This was my exact post from the day before:
”Strip out trade inventory & government spending and you have “Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers”. This is underlying demand growth.
Q2 was 1.2%, a step back of 0.7% from Q1.”
Weak demand growth for Q2, behind Q1 and a mile behind LY.
3 months of weak job data.
5 months of manufacturing contraction.
as for consumer spending, 0.1% after being adjusted for inflation.
yeh Trump is really “winning”.
goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 21:10 Don’t like the weak jobs data? Just fire the people who gave you the bad news, that’ll solve it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... statistics
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 22:08Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 21:48BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 19:02He's not removing trade barriers - tarriffs are trade barriers!
The investments are not guaranteed. Brilliant if it comes off. I would literally take my hat off to him if investments quoted are true. I just dont think they are. Like I said if you beleive he can get drug prices down 1000% then you can beleive his investment numbers.
Consumer sentiment is up from a low in April but down 7% from a year ago under Biden.You cant make it up!! Nutsackenomics brilliant!
You have no idea what you are talking aboutYou think tarrifs are not a barrier to trade?
You think all Trumps posturing about $bns of investments are all true and guaranteed.
You think consumer sentiment is up because its higher than Trumps previous months yet 7% lower than it was 12months ago under Sleepy Joe.
and....
You think I dont know what Im talking about!?
Ha hayou are a joke Nutsackenomics - you havent got a clue.
XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 16:00THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:28Is this a court? Has he enter a plea you simple ginger nonce?
It's a common behaviour when caught in a lie to go to extreme lengths to protect the lie. Like when you deny raping spastic 3rd World children in trees...
Is this a court?...yep kangaroo one
couples of points...WTF makes you say I'm ginger?????
Also as for the nonce allegations could you please forward them to the Met as I'm currently going through the DBS checks and let's see who gets nicked...you or me?
Whomail me and I'll give you the reference details to forward to plod...this could be hilarious
I now know how Farage feels but according to you l must be denying it too much so guilty
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 21:48BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 19:02Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:32Actually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/31/econ ... ation-june
consumer sentiment is up too.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_consu ... ment_index
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
He's not removing trade barriers - tarriffs are trade barriers!
The investments are not guaranteed. Brilliant if it comes off. I would literally take my hat off to him if investments quoted are true. I just dont think they are. Like I said if you beleive he can get drug prices down 1000% then you can beleive his investment numbers.
Consumer sentiment is up from a low in April but down 7% from a year ago under Biden.You cant make it up!! Nutsackenomics brilliant!
You have no idea what you are talking about
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 21:48goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:53Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:32Actually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/31/econ ... ation-june
consumer sentiment is up too.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_consu ... ment_index
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
I laid out the demand weakness in the GDP figures, you side-stepped it because you couldn't answer the question.
he's not bringing inflation down, in fact he is deliberately making decisions that push inflation up.
same with the debt, taking deliberate decisions that everyone knows will increase that debt.I addressed all your concerns several times over. I take it youno longer respect what CNN says about the economy then, because I posted a link from CNN that spells out consumer spending is up.
You’re just bitter because Trump has come out way ahead on all these trade agreements.
Poor Goose
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 19:02Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:32goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:12funny because you were posting about how great the job numbers were last month, only to be put right about the anomaly in education jobs which skewed the numbers.
now that's righted itself it's suddenly irrelevant.
"all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA." like those US made iphones or US made Nike trainers??
manufacturing going backwards again
weak consumer demand
jobs going backwards.
by the way, which is bigger $300bn or the $952bn on interest payments on your debt?
a debt being kept higher by those fantastic tariffs lolActually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/31/econ ... ation-june
consumer sentiment is up too.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_consu ... ment_index
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
He's not removing trade barriers - tarriffs are trade barriers!
The investments are not guaranteed. Brilliant if it comes off. I would literally take my hat off to him if investments quoted are true. I just dont think they are. Like I said if you beleive he can get drug prices down 1000% then you can beleive his investment numbers.
Consumer sentiment is up from a low in April but down 7% from a year ago under Biden.You cant make it up!! Nutsackenomics brilliant!
goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:53Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:32goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:12funny because you were posting about how great the job numbers were last month, only to be put right about the anomaly in education jobs which skewed the numbers.
now that's righted itself it's suddenly irrelevant.
"all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA." like those US made iphones or US made Nike trainers??
manufacturing going backwards again
weak consumer demand
jobs going backwards.
by the way, which is bigger $300bn or the $952bn on interest payments on your debt?
a debt being kept higher by those fantastic tariffs lolActually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/31/econ ... ation-june
consumer sentiment is up too.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_consu ... ment_index
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
I laid out the demand weakness in the GDP figures, you side-stepped it because you couldn't answer the question.
he's not bringing inflation down, in fact he is deliberately making decisions that push inflation up.
same with the debt, taking deliberate decisions that everyone knows will increase that debt.
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:32goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:12Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 16:19I’m right here Silly nuts!
Uptick Inflation puts us at an inflation rate not seen since Feb. We are still way better off than we were under Biden and a minor up tick is a small price to pay when you look at the trade deals Trump is bringing in.
As for the Job numbers they are immigrant job losses. Which explains why we finally have wage growth. Again a temporary and welcomed development in our job market.
As anyone with half a brain knows and as I’ve explained to you a dozen times or more, the manufacturing Jobs and new Jobs of which there will be plenty won’t show up yet as Factories, plants and warehouses have to be built. It will happen or are you denying that all these companies won’t be moving production into the ISA to get around the Tariffs?
Lets see, Trillions in new investments, removal of trade Barriers and an estimated $300 Billion per year plus in Tariff revenue, all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA.
Yeah A major win for the US I’d say and all this achieved without any help from the Fed.
Poor Goose continues to major in minors.funny because you were posting about how great the job numbers were last month, only to be put right about the anomaly in education jobs which skewed the numbers.
now that's righted itself it's suddenly irrelevant.
"all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA." like those US made iphones or US made Nike trainers??
manufacturing going backwards again
weak consumer demand
jobs going backwards.
by the way, which is bigger $300bn or the $952bn on interest payments on your debt?
a debt being kept higher by those fantastic tariffs lolActually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/31/econ ... ation-june
consumer sentiment is up too.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_consu ... ment_index
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:32goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:12Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 16:19I’m right here Silly nuts!
Uptick Inflation puts us at an inflation rate not seen since Feb. We are still way better off than we were under Biden and a minor up tick is a small price to pay when you look at the trade deals Trump is bringing in.
As for the Job numbers they are immigrant job losses. Which explains why we finally have wage growth. Again a temporary and welcomed development in our job market.
As anyone with half a brain knows and as I’ve explained to you a dozen times or more, the manufacturing Jobs and new Jobs of which there will be plenty won’t show up yet as Factories, plants and warehouses have to be built. It will happen or are you denying that all these companies won’t be moving production into the ISA to get around the Tariffs?
Lets see, Trillions in new investments, removal of trade Barriers and an estimated $300 Billion per year plus in Tariff revenue, all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA.
Yeah A major win for the US I’d say and all this achieved without any help from the Fed.
Poor Goose continues to major in minors.funny because you were posting about how great the job numbers were last month, only to be put right about the anomaly in education jobs which skewed the numbers.
now that's righted itself it's suddenly irrelevant.
"all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA." like those US made iphones or US made Nike trainers??
manufacturing going backwards again
weak consumer demand
jobs going backwards.
by the way, which is bigger $300bn or the $952bn on interest payments on your debt?
a debt being kept higher by those fantastic tariffs lolActually I think you’ll find Trump is not responsible for most of the debt and Powell refusing to drop rates is also part of the problem but you carry on with your severe case of TDS.
consumer spending went up, not sure where you are getting weak demand from.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/31/econ ... ation-june
consumer sentiment is up too.
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_consu ... ment_index
But you carry on getting busy any time you see a dip in the numbers, we were on an unsustainable path under Bidenomics, Trump has reset global trade, he is removing trade barriers, generating additional revenue and investments into the USA while lowering energy costs and bringing inflation down. To expect him to get everything handled instantly is a bit silly even for you.
Give it a minute for Trump to clear out the illegals and companies to build new plants and factories and tax cuts to kick in and the US economy will sky rocket and the debt will be attacked. Oh by the way have you seen the current trade deficits?
goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 17:12Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 16:19goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:36 Poor old Nutsin is keeping his "nut" down today:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-man ... 025-08-01/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-job ... 025-08-01/
what happened to all this US manufacturing growth?
job growths slowing sharply
ouch
I’m right here Silly nuts!
Uptick Inflation puts us at an inflation rate not seen since Feb. We are still way better off than we were under Biden and a minor up tick is a small price to pay when you look at the trade deals Trump is bringing in.
As for the Job numbers they are immigrant job losses. Which explains why we finally have wage growth. Again a temporary and welcomed development in our job market.
As anyone with half a brain knows and as I’ve explained to you a dozen times or more, the manufacturing Jobs and new Jobs of which there will be plenty won’t show up yet as Factories, plants and warehouses have to be built. It will happen or are you denying that all these companies won’t be moving production into the ISA to get around the Tariffs?
Lets see, Trillions in new investments, removal of trade Barriers and an estimated $300 Billion per year plus in Tariff revenue, all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA.
Yeah A major win for the US I’d say and all this achieved without any help from the Fed.
Poor Goose continues to major in minors.funny because you were posting about how great the job numbers were last month, only to be put right about the anomaly in education jobs which skewed the numbers.
now that's righted itself it's suddenly irrelevant.
"all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA." like those US made iphones or US made Nike trainers??
manufacturing going backwards again
weak consumer demand
jobs going backwards.
by the way, which is bigger $300bn or the $952bn on interest payments on your debt?
a debt being kept higher by those fantastic tariffs lol
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 16:19goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:36 Poor old Nutsin is keeping his "nut" down today:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-man ... 025-08-01/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-job ... 025-08-01/
what happened to all this US manufacturing growth?
job growths slowing sharply
ouch
I’m right here Silly nuts!
Uptick Inflation puts us at an inflation rate not seen since Feb. We are still way better off than we were under Biden and a minor up tick is a small price to pay when you look at the trade deals Trump is bringing in.
As for the Job numbers they are immigrant job losses. Which explains why we finally have wage growth. Again a temporary and welcomed development in our job market.
As anyone with half a brain knows and as I’ve explained to you a dozen times or more, the manufacturing Jobs and new Jobs of which there will be plenty won’t show up yet as Factories, plants and warehouses have to be built. It will happen or are you denying that all these companies won’t be moving production into the ISA to get around the Tariffs?
Lets see, Trillions in new investments, removal of trade Barriers and an estimated $300 Billion per year plus in Tariff revenue, all the US consumer has to do is buy products that are produced in the USA.
Yeah A major win for the US I’d say and all this achieved without any help from the Fed.
Poor Goose continues to major in minors.
goose wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:36 Poor old Nutsin is keeping his "nut" down today:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-man ... 025-08-01/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-job ... 025-08-01/
what happened to all this US manufacturing growth?
job growths slowing sharply
ouch
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:51THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:38BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:28I did but you lot wont drop it. Very odd but Im enjoying you lot wasting your own time. Knowing you are all wrong is hilarious. Its already been proved yet just like the knuckle dragging flat earthers that you are proof not matching your narrative is a defeat and you can't stand that!
You keep responsding, that's not letting it drop.
Always got to have the last word, very pickle...Last word you say?
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:28XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:19THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:13So billy isn't pickle, pickle is billy if you want to get into the temporal logistics of it all.
If there was nothing in it you'd have let it go after half a dozen posts and it would have all died a death ages ago.
The need to deny screams guilt.Lol ThickClit..
so pleading not guilty is actually guilty lol
Witch witch drown the witch
Medieval flat earth moronIs this a court? Has he enter a plea you simple ginger nonce?
It's a common behaviour when caught in a lie to go to extreme lengths to protect the lie. Like when you deny raping spastic 3rd World children in trees...
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:38BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:28THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:13So billy isn't pickle, pickle is billy if you want to get into the temporal logistics of it all.
If there was nothing in it you'd have let it go after half a dozen posts and it would have all died a death ages ago.
The need to deny screams guilt.I did but you lot wont drop it. Very odd but Im enjoying you lot wasting your own time. Knowing you are all wrong is hilarious. Its already been proved yet just like the knuckle dragging flat earthers that you are proof not matching your narrative is a defeat and you can't stand that!
You keep responsding, that's not letting it drop.
Always got to have the last word, very pickle...
THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:38BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:28THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:13So billy isn't pickle, pickle is billy if you want to get into the temporal logistics of it all.
If there was nothing in it you'd have let it go after half a dozen posts and it would have all died a death ages ago.
The need to deny screams guilt.I did but you lot wont drop it. Very odd but Im enjoying you lot wasting your own time. Knowing you are all wrong is hilarious. Its already been proved yet just like the knuckle dragging flat earthers that you are proof not matching your narrative is a defeat and you can't stand that!
Always got to have the last word, very pickle...
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:28THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:13BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 14:57As I registerwd before H&P thats not possible. Ive been on here for years
Im not trying to impersonate him. If I have similar views on politics wow what are the chances. We cant all be neofascists!
I mentioned Ratched as she keeps liking posts but she must know Im not Pickle.So billy isn't pickle, pickle is billy if you want to get into the temporal logistics of it all.
If there was nothing in it you'd have let it go after half a dozen posts and it would have all died a death ages ago.
The need to deny screams guilt.I did but you lot wont drop it. Very odd but Im enjoying you lot wasting your own time. Knowing you are all wrong is hilarious. Its already been proved yet just like the knuckle dragging flat earthers that you are proof not matching your narrative is a defeat and you can't stand that!