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Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 19 Dec 2024, 22:06
by stubbo-admin
Official Transfer Window Thread | I'll try and stay current with signings and rumours.

Could be The Scarf's last chance to prove his worth as well as make-or-break for Lopetegui who needs to shuffle the back to suit what we're trying to do more.

Rumoured In:
  • Ewan Ferguson, ST (Brighton)
  • Carney Chukwumeka, CM (Chelsea)
  • Carlos Soler, CM (PSG, Loan to Perm)
  • Emmanuel Latte Lath, ST (Middlesbrough)
  • Shea Charles, CM (Southampton)
  • Ezekiel Banzuzi, CM (Leuven)
  • Arthur Carbral, ST (Benfica)
  • Taiwo Awoniyi, ST (Forest)
  • Igor Jesus, ST (Botofogo)
  • Marcus Rashford, FW (Man Utd)
  • Jonathan David, ST (Lille)
  • Evann Guessand, ST, (Nice)
  • Randal Kolo Muani, ST, (PSG)
  • Kieran Dewsbury-Hall , CM, (Chelsea)
  • André Silva, ST, (RB Leipzig)
  • Elye Wahi, ST, (Marseille)
  • Kristjan Asllani, CM, (Inter)
  • Rodrigo Muniz, ST, (Fulham)
  • Callum Wilson, ST, (Newcastle)
  • Ansu Fati, AM, (Barcelona)
  • Angel Gomes, CM, (Lille, pre-contract)
  • Adam Webster, CB, (Brighton)
  • Brian Brobbey, ST, (Ajax)
  • Ricardo Pepi, ST, (PSV)
  • James McAtee, MF, (Man City)
  • Yuri Alberto, ST, (Corinthians)
  • Tyler Morton, DM, (Liverpool)
Rumoured Out:
  • Kudus (Liverpool, Newcastle, Arsenal)
  • Fullkrüg (Juventus)
  • Rodriguez (Betis)
  • Alvarez (Monaco)
  • Emerson (Juventus)
  • Luis Guilherme (Al Hilal)
Confirmed In:
  • Josh Landers (!), ST (Hibernian)
  • James Ward-Prowse, MF, (Nottigham Forest | Return from loan)
  • Evan Ferguson, ST, (Brighton, Loan...no option/obligation to buy)
Confirmed Out:
  • Max Cornet (Genoa, Loan)
  • Favour Fawunmi
  • Sean Tarima
  • Junior Robinson — Sutton United (loan)
  • Regan Clayton — Dagenham & Redbridge (loan)
  • Brad Dolaghan — Aldershot Town (loan)
  • Michael Forbes — Colchester United (loan)
  • Krisztian Hegyi — Debreceni (loan)


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Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 13:08
by El Scorchio
Alan wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:52 West Ham Football
@westhamfootball
Jean Clair Todibo received a 'Hero's Welcome' at Nice before kick-off as he attended a two-nil win of his parent club against Marseille last Sunday.  Nice fans took to social media asking him to return and stay in the country.

West Ham have already triggered an obligation to buy meaning the Hammers must pay Nice €32m (£26.7m) this summer. They insist they have no interest in loaning him out to Juventus or another club saying he remains in Graham Potter's plans.

The 25-year-old is recovering from a calf injury in France and is back in the gym working on his fitness.  

The West Ham centre back is expected to be out for another three weeks and targeting a return towards the later part of middle of February with Arsenal away on 22 Feb a potential return game for the defender.
What a weird fucked up situation it is with this bloke. It's been weird from the moment he signed. I guess there's no reason he shouldn't go and watch a football game but something feels off with all this.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:47
by Eerie Decent
Have to be careful though, we don't want to play him in a system he wasn't playing when you were watching him for Spain U19's

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:20
by Massive Attack
Eerie Decent" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:08
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:26
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:18
 
His record in the Swiss league doesn’t really interest me. Once he  moved to Italy, he struggled for goals and likewise in Portugal. 
We have creativity in Bowen, Paqueta, Kudus, Summerville etc. We need a goalscorer. I’m not sure Cabral is that player. IF we are actually in for him, I hope he succeeds. 
It illustrates he's able to make plenty of goals across 4 different Countries top Leagues. It was also his goals and assists that contributed towards their recent Cup win for Benfica, as his goals almost did for Fiorentina towards getting to 2 Cup Finals 2 seasons ago. Not that goals are all he's about anyway which Manuel is right to point out. 
Are there any strikers from Lopetegui's Spain U19 team that you used to watch that might still be knocking about that we could sign?
Yeah, Morata. We could have attempted to sign him although much prefer we go down the younger player route which we are doing. 

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:08
by Eerie Decent
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:26
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:18
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:10
Still only 26 he's been involved in 158 goals in 317 apps in 4 different Countries. For £18M he'd be good value for us, if it turned out to be true but knowing Sullivan it's just his usual smoke and mirrors routine. 

Hopefully Ferguson is the main one that gets done on an option to buy loan deal. Seems promising.
 
His record in the Swiss league doesn’t really interest me. Once he  moved to Italy, he struggled for goals and likewise in Portugal. 
We have creativity in Bowen, Paqueta, Kudus, Summerville etc. We need a goalscorer. I’m not sure Cabral is that player. IF we are actually in for him, I hope he succeeds. 
It illustrates he's able to make plenty of goals across 4 different Countries top Leagues. It was also his goals and assists that contributed towards their recent Cup win for Benfica, as his goals almost did for Fiorentina towards getting to 2 Cup Finals 2 seasons ago. Not that goals are all he's about anyway which Manuel is right to point out. 
Are there any strikers from Lopetegui's Spain U19 team that you used to watch that might still be knocking about that we could sign?

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:05
by John Coffey
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:42 Fair enough John. I'm also hopeful main target Ferguson gets done too..

West Ham expected to submit Ferguson proposal

Latest from Sky Sports News' Dharmesh Sheth: West Ham United are still pushing to sign Evan Ferguson.They are in contact with Brighton and are expected to propose a deal.

West Ham understood to be exploring both a loan and a permanent deal.There is a growing optimism that the player wants to join and re-unite with Graham Potter.Ferguson is one of a number of forwards West Ham are looking at amid an injury crisis. 

Sky Sports News understands West Ham have also made enquiries to Benfica over their striker Arthur Cabralhowever, Ferguson remains the primary target.
Massive. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong if we sign Cabral and he bangs in the goals we need. It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been wrong about our striker signing. I actually really wanted Scamacca and was made up when we got him. Look how that ended! 

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:52
by Alan
West Ham Football
@westhamfootball
Jean Clair Todibo received a 'Hero's Welcome' at Nice before kick-off as he attended a two-nil win of his parent club against Marseille last Sunday.  Nice fans took to social media asking him to return and stay in the country.

West Ham have already triggered an obligation to buy meaning the Hammers must pay Nice €32m (£26.7m) this summer. They insist they have no interest in loaning him out to Juventus or another club saying he remains in Graham Potter's plans.

The 25-year-old is recovering from a calf injury in France and is back in the gym working on his fitness.  

The West Ham centre back is expected to be out for another three weeks and targeting a return towards the later part of middle of February with Arsenal away on 22 Feb a potential return game for the defender.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:42
by Massive Attack
Fair enough John. I'm also hopeful main target Ferguson gets done too..

West Ham expected to submit Ferguson proposal

Latest from Sky Sports News' Dharmesh Sheth: West Ham United are still pushing to sign Evan Ferguson.They are in contact with Brighton and are expected to propose a deal.

West Ham understood to be exploring both a loan and a permanent deal.There is a growing optimism that the player wants to join and re-unite with Graham Potter.Ferguson is one of a number of forwards West Ham are looking at amid an injury crisis. 

Sky Sports News understands West Ham have also made enquiries to Benfica over their striker Arthur Cabralhowever, Ferguson remains the primary target.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:39
by John Coffey
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:26
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:18
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:10
Still only 26 he's been involved in 158 goals in 317 apps in 4 different Countries. For £18M he'd be good value for us, if it turned out to be true but knowing Sullivan it's just his usual smoke and mirrors routine. 

Hopefully Ferguson is the main one that gets done on an option to buy loan deal. Seems promising.
 
His record in the Swiss league doesn’t really interest me. Once he  moved to Italy, he struggled for goals and likewise in Portugal. 
We have creativity in Bowen, Paqueta, Kudus, Summerville etc. We need a goalscorer. I’m not sure Cabral is that player. IF we are actually in for him, I hope he succeeds. 
It illustrates he's able to make plenty of goals across 4 different Countries top Leagues. It was also his goals and assists that contributed towards their recent Cup win for Benfica, as his goals almost did for Fiorentina towards getting to 2 Cup Finals 2 seasons ago. Not that goals are all he's about anyway which Manuel is right to point out. 
Disagree completely. As I said previously we are crying out for a goalscorer. He doesn’t fit that profile. 

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:26
by Massive Attack
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:18
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:10
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:56 So. Arthur Cabral. Seems perfect for us. 10 goals in 42 appearances for Fiorentina and 8 in 43 for Benfica. Another non scoring Sully special. Not having that. 
Still only 26 he's been involved in 158 goals in 317 apps in 4 different Countries. For £18M he'd be good value for us, if it turned out to be true but knowing Sullivan it's just his usual smoke and mirrors routine. 

Hopefully Ferguson is the main one that gets done on an option to buy loan deal. Seems promising.
 
His record in the Swiss league doesn’t really interest me. Once he  moved to Italy, he struggled for goals and likewise in Portugal. 
We have creativity in Bowen, Paqueta, Kudus, Summerville etc. We need a goalscorer. I’m not sure Cabral is that player. IF we are actually in for him, I hope he succeeds. 
It illustrates he's able to make plenty of goals across 4 different Countries top Leagues. It was also his goals and assists that contributed towards their recent Cup win for Benfica, as his goals almost did for Fiorentina towards getting to 2 Cup Finals 2 seasons ago. Not that goals are all he's about anyway which Manuel is right to point out. 

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:19
by El Scorchio
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:56 So. Arthur Cabral. Seems perfect for us. 10 goals in 42 appearances for Fiorentina and 8 in 43 for Benfica. Another non scoring Sully special. Not having that. 
 
 
 
On 8 December, after a 1–1 league draw to Farense at the Estádio da Luz, Cabral was filmed showing his middle finger to Benfica fans while driving out of the stadium

Great. Added to his bang average scoring record. Seems an utterly pointless bench warmer of a transfer on the level of an Ipswich or a Leeds. Friendly agent by any chance?

Good play also to fuck off the potential of LG and get this guy in who is very unlikely to get any better at all, at his age.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:18
by John Coffey
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 11:10
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:56 So. Arthur Cabral. Seems perfect for us. 10 goals in 42 appearances for Fiorentina and 8 in 43 for Benfica. Another non scoring Sully special. Not having that. 
Still only 26 he's been involved in 158 goals in 317 apps in 4 different Countries. For £18M he'd be good value for us, if it turned out to be true but knowing Sullivan it's just his usual smoke and mirrors routine. 

Hopefully Ferguson is the main one that gets done on an option to buy loan deal. Seems promising.
 
 
His record in the Swiss league doesn’t really interest me. Once he  moved to Italy, he struggled for goals and likewise in Portugal. 
We have creativity in Bowen, Paqueta, Kudus, Summerville etc. We need a goalscorer. I’m not sure Cabral is that player. IF we are actually in for him, I hope he succeeds. 

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:14
by Manuel
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:56 So. Arthur Cabral. Seems perfect for us. 10 goals in 42 appearances for Fiorentina and 8 in 43 for Benfica. Another non scoring Sully special. Not having that. 
 
 
Is he a no 9 type? If so, a lot of that type of player are not prolific in the modern game, plenty of examples out there. Anyway, I don't see this one at all. Think it will be Ferguson.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:12
by Takashi Miike
If he's £18m, the midget cսnt will bid £8m

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:10
by Massive Attack
John Coffey" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:56 So. Arthur Cabral. Seems perfect for us. 10 goals in 42 appearances for Fiorentina and 8 in 43 for Benfica. Another non scoring Sully special. Not having that. 
Still only 26 he's been involved in 158 goals in 317 apps in 4 different Countries. For £18M he'd be good value for us, if it turned out to be true but knowing Sullivan it's just his usual smoke and mirrors routine. 

Hopefully Ferguson is the main one that gets done on an option to buy loan deal. Seems promising.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:01
by fraser
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:50
Eerie Decent" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:28 Every Massive Plank post is a thinly veiled dig at Potter.

He's still licking his wounds after being so badly wrong about the previous manager.

"Lopetegui fan here, particularly his work with the Spanish U19 team"



 
It does seem that way.  At least he's stopped going on and on about Iraola and what he did at Bournemouth.
He's not gonna stop going on though is he, his keyboard must be more battered than Bonnie Blue's under carriage! 

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:56
by John Coffey
So. Arthur Cabral. Seems perfect for us. 10 goals in 42 appearances for Fiorentina and 8 in 43 for Benfica. Another non scoring Sully special. Not having that. 

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:52
by Massive Attack
Eerie Decent" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:36 No you're not. You have absolutely no idea who was in charge of identifying and signing players at Chelsea, you're just making stuff up to have snide digs at Potter.






 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Clearly all the reporting was made up then..

'new recruitment analyst Kyle Macauley has been tracking him.' 

With every decision you have got to make the best educated guess that you can. If you identify the right player and the right person there are huge upsides to it because you are developing and investing in him. If things go well you have a fantastic asset' Potter on signing Mudryk. Potter was confident he had signed a man who could add something to a squad that has already seen Joao Felix, Benoit Badiashile, David Datro Fofana and Andrey Santos brought in this month. ‘He brings speed, he brings directness, he brings one-against-one ability to just eliminate an opponent,’ he said. ‘With all the noise around him you have to focus on helping him settle in, not put too much pressure on him. ‘It doesn’t matter how much the price tag says, it’s about how a human being goes from his country and his league to this country and this league, and help him understand about us as a club. If we do that well then he will be a huge success.'

A deal worth an initial £62m, manager Graham Potter held positive talks with Mudryk in a phone call sanctioned by Shakhtar.
 
Potter is a fan of the Ukraine winger and believes his pace and creativity could be just the spark his team need to ignite their struggling season.

“He’s exciting one v one, direct, attacks the backline, can go in wide areas but also affects the goal. I think our supporters will really like him.”

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:50
by Lee Trundle
Eerie Decent" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:28 Every Massive Plank post is a thinly veiled dig at Potter.

He's still licking his wounds after being so badly wrong about the previous manager.

"Lopetegui fan here, particularly his work with the Spanish U19 team"


 
It does seem that way.  At least he's stopped going on and on about Iraola and what he did at Bournemouth.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:36
by Eerie Decent
No you're not. You have absolutely no idea who was in charge of identifying and signing players at Chelsea, you're just making stuff up to have snide digs at Potter.

Time to give it a rest, it's all making you look a bit silly.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:35
by Massive Attack
Eerie Decent" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:28 Every Massive Plank post is a thinly veiled dig at Potter.

He's still licking his wounds after being so badly wrong about the previous manager.

"Lopetegui fan here, particularly his work with the Spanish U19 team"



 
I've just been praising him for his approach in this window after learning from lessons in his previous job where he fucked up in the transfer market for Chelsea. You always this hard of thinking and reading..

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:33
by Massive Attack
stubbo wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:20
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:15
fraser wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:07
Moyes spoke enthusiastically about Benrahma, that's what managers do... Doesn't mean he signed him.. 

Cabrel is shit 
 
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 53268.html

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dail ... debut.html

I mean, you can excuse them from signing him (amongst others) if you like but it doesn't mean it's true. They were their signings. 

The main thing here is them learning from it and it sounds like they have which is good for us, not so much for Chelsea.
Had you actively scouted Mudryk and knew he'd be terrible?  I mean on the face of it at the time it seemed like a decent signing.  Maybe all the scouting and due diligence checked out and it was just one of those things?

Sometimes it just doesn't work out as it's not an exact science...all you can do is try and balance risk and reward.
 
 
For the mega money forked out for him at such a young age and limited experience based on 1 season in the Ukrainian League and handfuls of Champions League games it was always a huge gamble that even Potter himself admitted. And from day 1 he was shocking for Chelsea.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:28
by Eerie Decent
Every Massive Plank post is a thinly veiled dig at Potter.

He's still licking his wounds after being so badly wrong about the previous manager.

"Lopetegui fan here, particularly his work with the Spanish U19 team"

 

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:27
by Massive Attack
Eerie Decent" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:13
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:05
fraser wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 09:57
You said he spent £320 million now it's just Mudryk fact. You know fuck all about fuck all.. 
It was on his watch and they were the players brought in at the time and it's confirmed in reports Macauley had scouted Mudryk prior to him signing for them as just 1 clear example. Potter also spoke enthusiastically about Mudryk and how he'd be great for Chelsea and their fans. 
Glad we've cleared that up, so now you can stop slagging Steiden off, and blame Lopetegui for our summer transfer window.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... sfer-plans

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:20
by stubbo
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:15
fraser wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:07
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:05
It was on his watch and they were the players brought in at the time and it's confirmed in reports Macauley had scouted Mudryk prior to him signing for them as just 1 clear example. Potter also spoke enthusiastically about Mudryk and how he'd be great for Chelsea and their fans. 
Moyes spoke enthusiastically about Benrahma, that's what managers do... Doesn't mean he signed him.. 

Cabrel is shit 
 
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 53268.html

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dail ... debut.html

I mean, you can excuse them from signing him (amongst others) if you like but it doesn't mean it's true. They were their signings. 

The main thing here is them learning from it and it sounds like they have which is good for us, not so much for Chelsea.
Had you actively scouted Mudryk and knew he'd be terrible?  I mean on the face of it at the time it seemed like a decent signing.  Maybe all the scouting and due diligence checked out and it was just one of those things?

Sometimes it just doesn't work out as it's not an exact science...all you can do is try and balance risk and reward.

Re: Official January '25 Transfer Window Thread

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:15
by Massive Attack
fraser wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:07
Massive Attack" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:05
fraser wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 09:57
You said he spent £320 million now it's just Mudryk fact. You know fuck all about fuck all.. 
It was on his watch and they were the players brought in at the time and it's confirmed in reports Macauley had scouted Mudryk prior to him signing for them as just 1 clear example. Potter also spoke enthusiastically about Mudryk and how he'd be great for Chelsea and their fans. 
Moyes spoke enthusiastically about Benrahma, that's what managers do... Doesn't mean he signed him.. 

Cabrel is shit 
 
 
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 53268.html

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dail ... debut.html

I mean, you can excuse them from signing him (amongst others) if you like but it doesn't mean it's true. They were their signings. 

The main thing here is them learning from it and it sounds like they have which is good for us, not so much for Chelsea.