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Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 09:19**

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:59**

Picjkle now in charge of who

GOOD TIMES

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:51**

What exactly is a “comformable” mind”?

I’ve heard of “conformist” but to accuse me of that would be put together with your claims I can’t use English properly, have lost my wife to a karate instructor or have brought up my children to be racists.

Yes, I think “childish bickering” would cover it.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:50**

More than 100 women & girls were sexually assaulted on NYE ‘16. The perpetrators were largely North Africans.

Pickles response is not to condemn the disgusting men who did it (of their own free choice) but to blame Russia with some mad conspiracy theories.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:48**

I'm bowing out of this thread and trying to police it.

Other mods can decide appropriate course of action for all concerned as it's a no-win position.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:48**

only1billybonds wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:46 ..........we know what we know.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:46**

Funny ol game this Internet lark.
A person who consistently and openly defends certain nefarious characters gets called out for his twisted views and goes squealing to the site mods and within hours, all kinds ok warnings are being thrown around. And yet the 'victim' openly issues death threats in full public view and not a single feather is ruffled.

Still, nothing changes, we know what we know.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:46**

goose wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:42
He said that he was reporting ppl last night. It’s since deleted.

Yep, was following it fella.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:45**

Cabbige Savage" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:32 Juss becose some 1 say they go to authoritys if you not do what they say dos not make it black male.

Fukkin Raysist!

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:44**

Picjkle you still streem Charlton v Redding 3pm at bench

GOOD TIMES

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:42**

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:39 Moral panics were first described and analysed in the brilliant study Folk Devils and Moral Panics by Stanley Cohen. I'd say its also textbook reading for Elon Musk, Reform, the Trump GOP and of course Kremlin planners.

https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Moral-Pan ... 0415610168

I find it very amusing that you talk about moral panics and brainwashing of the plebs, but cannot see that yours is precisely the kind of highly conformable mind that cult leaders love to exploit.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:42**

MaryMillingtonsGhost wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:38
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:28
Of course I’m not blackmailing anyone and have absolutely no complaint about how the site is being moderated right now.

So to be clear fella, you didn't approach the mods?

He said that he was reporting ppl last night. It’s since deleted.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:41**

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:30 When Pickle says 'moral panic', what he really means is ghastly, thick working class people having strong opinions on things that affect their communities. But who cares about them? They don't even have degrees in sociology, so how can they understand what's good for them?

You really have no mandate to speak for anyone.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:39**

goose wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:33
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:28
Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:20 That's a lot of words. Is he blackmailing you? If he is, we will understand your stance.

Of course I’m not blackmailing anyone and have absolutely no complaint about how the site is being moderated right now.

You mean after you went crying to the mods like the absolute wet wipe you are? Happy to give it out but run off crying when it comes your way.

Some years ago. Pickle went through a brief phase of accusing me and my family of being IRA sympathisers. I shrugged it off. I didn't go crying to the mods, because I'm a grown adult.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:39**

Moral panics were first described and analysed in the brilliant study Folk Devils and Moral Panics by Stanley Cohen. I'd say its also textbook reading for Elon Musk, Reform, the Trump GOP and of course Kremlin planners.

https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Moral-Pan ... 0415610168

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:38**

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:28
Of course I’m not blackmailing anyone and have absolutely no complaint about how the site is being moderated right now.

So to be clear fella, you didn't approach the mods?

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:33**

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:28
Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:20 That's a lot of words. Is he blackmailing you? If he is, we will understand your stance.

Of course I’m not blackmailing anyone and have absolutely no complaint about how the site is being moderated right now.

You mean after you went crying to the mods like the absolute wet wipe you are? Happy to give it out but run off crying when it comes your way.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:32**

Juss becose some 1 say they go to authoritys if you not do what they say dos not make it black male.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:31**

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:28
Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:20 That's a lot of words. Is he blackmailing you? If he is, we will understand your stance.

Of course I’m not blackmailing anyone and have absolutely no complaint about how the site is being moderated right now.

Well of course you have no complaints about the modding. You delibrrately provoke abuse from posters, then run crying to the mods, and they fight your battles for you.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:30**

When Pickle says 'moral panic', what he really means is ghastly, thick working class people having strong opinions on things that affect their communities. But who cares about them? They don't even have degrees in sociology, so how can they understand what's good for them?

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:28**

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:20 That's a lot of words. Is he blackmailing you? If he is, we will understand your stance.

Of course I’m not blackmailing anyone and have absolutely no complaint about how the site is being moderated right now.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:24**

Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑03 Jan 2025, 14:41 I see there is actually quite a lot of cross-party consensus on Musk trying to stoke another moral panic about the grooming gangs.

Would anyone like provide a little more detail and clarity on what lies he has actually been telling before I have to find out myself?

"Stoke another moral panic about grooming gangs"

The moral panic was already there by those who were long paying attention to it years ago. Anyone in their right mind would have moral panic and outage over what happened/happens and glad someone high profile is turning up the heat and the spotlight on it.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:21**

One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 11:30 Anyway, if you've all quite finished calling each other paedos, todays geography lesson from Suella Braverman...

She meant greece and you know it

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:20**

That's a lot of words. Is he blackmailing you? If he is, we will understand your stance.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:18**

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:05 I think you're on the wrong side of this one, Stubbo. Over the years, Pickle has repeatedly minimised stories of grooming and sexual assault, including against minors. None of us can pull a C&P'd example on demand because it isn't us that have a 'dossy-yay'. But we have all seen it and argued with him over it.

If your support of Pickle here is only because he is blackmailing you with threats to have the site shut down, then be honest and say so. We would all understand that. But please don't attempt to gaslight us by asserting that he has never posted in support of or minimised the actions of groomers and rapists or the fallout.

Rubbish.

I have never minimised any stories of grooming and sexual assault. Instead, I have sought to put them in their proper context, which includes the interests of those who are trying to provoke and incite violence for their own abusive political purposes. There is no minimisation if I do this. In fact it sheds light on exactly how atrocious the crime is on a state level rather than just the personal one. And it does nothing to detract from the personal aspect either.

Posted: **04 Jan 2025, 12:15**

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑04 Jan 2025, 12:05 I think you're on the wrong side of this one, Stubbo. Over the years, Pickle has repeatedly minimised stories of grooming and sexual assault, including against minors. None of us can pull a C&P'd example on demand because it isn't us that have a 'dossy-yay'. But we have all seen it and argued with him over it.

If your support of Pickle here is only because he is blackmailing you with threats to have the site shut down, then be honest and say so. We would all understand that. But please don't attempt to gaslight us by asserting that he has never posted in support of or minimised the actions of groomers and rapists or the fallout.

I have little overall historical context and have no interest in holding views on a specific issue around a specific poster that runs cross-thread. I've got no 'skin' in the game of this particular topic or argument or interest in taking sides, and come only at it from trying to run a publicly available forum in which the site's community don't seemingly want us to just shut down anything that moves to the emotive or controversial.

Irrespective the topic or the history, controversial views are a fact of life, and at WHO we've tried to let them be presented.

But as a site we can't support direct targeted abuse against individuals that goes beyond banter for whatever reason, especially when that abuse moves towards what could be considered defamatory and starts to present a potential legal problem for those that are considered site operators (whether enacted or not).

That's simply the nature of running a publicly visible forum whether the community here likes it or not.

There are other approaches we can of course take that become more heavy handed, but we've tried to avoid that.

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