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Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 26 May 2025, 20:02
by stubbo-admin

May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.

Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?

Window this close season comes in two parts:

Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September

Rumoured Outs...most of the squad

Let the "Rumoured In's" commence. 

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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)

Rumoured In
  1. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
  2. Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
  3. Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
  4. Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
  5. Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
  6. Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
  7. James Trafford | GK | Burnley
  8. Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
  9. Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
  10. CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
  11. Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
  12. Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
  13. Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
  14. Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
  15. Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
  16. James McAtee | AM | Man City
  17. Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
  18. Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
  19. Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
  20. Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
  21. Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
  22. Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
  23. Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
  24. Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
  25. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
  26. Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
  27. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
  28. Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
  29. Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
  30. Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
  31. Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
  32. Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
  33. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
  34. Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
  35. Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
  36. Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
  37. Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
  38. John Victor | GK | Botofogo 
  39. Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
  40. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
  41. Nga Makou | CM | Lille
  42. Quinten Timber | CM
  43. Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
  44. Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs
Rumoured Out
  1. Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
  2. Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
  3. Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
  4. Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
  5. Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
  6. Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
  7. Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
  8. Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
  9. Emerson | LB | Marseille
Confirmed In
  1. Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
  2. Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
  3. El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
  4. Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
  5. C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
  6. Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
  7. Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
  8. Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
  9. Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)

Confirmed Out
  1. Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
  2. Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
  3. Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
  4. Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
  5. Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
  6. Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
  7. Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
  8. Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
  9. Brad Dolaghan | Released
  10. Dondre Abraham | Released
  11. Mehmet Halim | Released
  12. Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
  13. Michail Antonio | Released
  14. Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
  15. Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
  16. Emerson | Marseille | £1m
  17. Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
  18. Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 21:42
by eusebiovic
El Scorchio" wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 21:02
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 20:10 Yes, but actual names. Bearing in mind that most clubs don't actually have managers and that the buying and selling is done by um, the owners (or their representatives).




 
The other owners don't generally do their own rogue 'scouting' and 'buying' independently of what their manager/recruitment specialists want or recommend, and purposely buy players they don't want just because they fancy it, or not buy players their paid experts do want because they don't fancy it. Just doesn't happen.

An owner may tell their people someone is too expensive, sure, but what they won't do is just ignore or deliberately not properly pursue the targets their people have identified in favour of going rogue like Sullivan does.
Spot on!

Let's take Tony Bloom at Brighton as an example...

He'll probably say something like this to his staff

"I've invested heavily in the infrastructure of this club and provided all the tools and resources required to do an excellent job for which I'm paying you a very generous salary with benefits to get our player signings right most of the time rather than just some of the time. Don't let me or the club down"

Sullivan's approach to player signings barely gets the success required SOME of the time at all. Not compared to the money spunked up the wall by being a cheapskate and taking a blind punt on everything working out for the best. He's a busy idiot when it comes to the football side of things.

Enough already!

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 21:02
by El Scorchio
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 20:10 Yes, but actual names. Bearing in mind that most clubs don't actually have managers and that the buying and selling is done by um, the owners (or their representatives).


 
The other owners don't generally do their own rogue 'scouting' and 'buying' independently of what their manager/recruitment specialists want or recommend, and purposely buy players they don't want just because they fancy it, or not buy players their paid experts do want because they don't fancy it. Just doesn't happen.

An owner may tell their people someone is too expensive, sure, but what they won't do is just ignore or deliberately not properly pursue the targets their people have identified in favour of going rogue like Sullivan does.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 20:10
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
Yes, but actual names. Bearing in mind that most clubs don't actually have managers and that the buying and selling is done by um, the owners (or their representatives).

 

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 19:31
by eusebiovic
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 17:24
He's not like other owners who just write the cheques and don't throw their two penneth in.
Which owners are these that just write out cheques without question?
The ones that don't consistently stick their fuckin' oar in unless there is a proper car crash or old skool CHiPs style multi-vehicle pile-up which needs explaining forthwith...

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 19:27
by El Scorchio
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 17:24
He's not like other owners who just write the cheques and don't throw their two penneth in.
Which owners are these that just write out cheques without question?
The ones that don't overrule their employees and just do what they feel like on a whim or from a whisper in the ear from an agent mate.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 17:24
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
He's not like other owners who just write the cheques and don't throw their two penneth in.
Which owners are these that just write out cheques without question?

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 17:23
by Sir Alf
Scorch and others are spot on, well most of us know in fact that the relentless dysfunction, short term thinking and incompetence is down to one man. Even Gold and Brady cannot compete with their supremo when it comes to the “art of fvcking things up”.  What is really at the root though is that Sullivan like all narcissists can never be trusted, is dishonest, lies and is the master of deflecting blame by throwing just about anyone but himself “under the bus”.  

We’ve been having this discussion since GSB took over and the 3 seasons in Europe were a unexpected accident and not the result of strategic or other longer term planning.

 

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 17:04
by eusebiovic
Lee Trundle" wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 16:45 Xavi Valero, who Potter decided not to keep on, has joined the champions Liverpool.
Smells like a cost cutting exercise to these nostrils ...

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 16:45
by Lee Trundle
Xavi Valero, who Potter decided not to keep on, has joined the champions Liverpool.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 16:11
by Mike Oxsaw
A rabbit caught in headlights would make better decisions than Sullivan every time.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 15:17
by Fauxstralian
Must say I was an early adopter of the Birmingham fans views

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 15:11
by violator
eusebiovic wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 15:06

I'm starting to think that young man was wise beyond his years.
 
 
Treasure him Father Crilly

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 15:11
by El Scorchio
Maupay scored 4 times against us at the LS. What's the betting that if we signed him (and I hope to god we do not) that he would 't score as many goals FOR us there in the entire time he stayed with us?
 

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 15:06
by eusebiovic
I remember working with a Brummie called Alex he was a good lad and a bluenose.

He said to me at the time GSB bought the club...

"You may not realise it at the moment but the day will come when you despise their guts with a bitterness that you never thought existed"

I'm starting to think that young man was wise beyond his years.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 14:58
by Lee Trundle
I see Marseille are immediately trying to sell Neal Maupay after they had to buy him from Everton and some Premier League clubs are interested.

Right up our street, I reckon.
(this isn't me suggesting we buy him)

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 13:30
by El Scorchio
Yup, the buck stops with Sullivan. He's the one who has to give the 'ok' to every transfer. And we really mean the ok. He's not like other owners who just write the cheques and don't throw their two penneth in. He won't sign a player he doesn't fancy, so every single player in has been ratified as a 'good' player by Sullivan, just like every player he's torpedoed a deal for or outright turned down is a player he's not rated sometimes in favour of what his 'mates' are telling him to do. He's the ultimate judge of what is talent at WHU and nothing doesn't go through him. He agreed that Kilman was worth 40 million and over 100k a week. He's the one who threw away money on Ings. 

It's his judgement or lack of that has brought us to this point. This is 'his' west ham squad. Not that of Moyes or Lop or Stiedten or Potter. They've only been allowed to sign who he wanted them to, and were not allowed to sign anyone they wanted he didn't want them to, despite his protestations of being a vulnerable and benevolent old man led down the garden path by a poor or unscrupulous actor when a player hasn't worked out well, and his self aggrandising and backslapping as a genius when one has. This mess is 100% on him. Yes he can take credit for AWB, but for every AWB there are five Ings' and Kilmans.

We will only get out of this horrible mess when he butts out once and for all and lets his employees get on with what he pays them for unencumbered, or is no longer in charge. Yes Lop would still have signed Kilman, but we'd never have had Lop in the first place.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 13:18
by El Scorchio
stubbo-admin wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 09:35 This guy Malick Diouf....looks crakcing going forwards (vs other full backs as a comparision....but defensivley looks hopeless).

https://fbref.com/en/players/bd5eb2e5/El-Hadji-Diouf
Doesn't stop everyone wanking themselves dry over 'Trent', however he's been fortunate enough to play in club teams where he rarely needs to defend much almost all of his career

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 13:07
by Mad Ferret
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 12:45 The biggest fuck up by this board and there's been some fucking good fuck ups, was giving the utter fraud Loppy the keys to the fucking safe.
They did the same with Pellegrini.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 12:45
by Far Cough UKunt
The biggest fuck up by this board and there's been some fucking good fuck ups, was giving the utter fraud Loppy the keys to the fucking safe.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 12:43
by Lee Trundle
I said at the end of the season that we'd be relegation candidates as things stand.

Nothing has changed since then.  No one has yet to come in and the squad has arguably got worse.

The only thing I have to pin my hopes onto, is other supporters blind loyalty of Potter.  That's it.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 12:39
by Russ of the BML
Without trying to sound dramatic.... West Harm are now primed to get relegated. We have blindly and naively sailed into the perfect storm. As I have said before, Sullivan's legacy will be completed at the end of this season when we go down. To me, it's not even in doubt. Not if, but when. If you are a gambler, get your rent money on us as we are literally like ready to go. It's all built up to this moment and Sullivan and Brady will be lynched hopefully. 

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 12:21
by GBHammer63
Yep, incredibly stupid understates what a fucking cretin the man is, the list above shows that of the 19 players who are either leaving or confirmed gone arguably 13 or 14 are first team or around it. 

Whole new level of business genius to have allowed us to get where we’ve got so quickly, and with multiple opportunities to address the issues.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 12:11
by Lee Trundle
If we're close to out PSR limit, then that suggests we're not tight with spending the money.

It suggests Sullivan is incredibly stupid at spending the money, considering where we are in the league and the value of our squad.

No one else would have spent £40m on Kilman and given him the contact he has.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 11:57
by GBHammer63
Correct Goose, but who is it that appoints the people that are sanctioned to piss it up the wall, Sullivan overseeing transfer business will see at least the same amount of piss going up the wall albeit he won’t be able to piss it so high. But it can be more guaranteed to go all over his boots.

Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread

Posted: 02 Jul 2025, 11:50
by goose
GBHammer63 wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 11:44
goose wrote: 02 Jul 2025, 08:27 cheepstake when it comes to hiring managers maybe, but we spend (waste) millions on players every year. outside the top 6/7 nobody spends more than we do.

you cant criticise Sullivan for not spending on the squad, but you can criticise how that money has been spent.
Sullivan isn’t spending his own money though, it’s the clubs money which is a whole different thing.
of course, but i wouldn't expect him to throw his own money down the drain on transfer fees.
"the club" has had a more than adequate transfer budget which they've done a brilliant job of pissing up the wall.