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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

Posted: 18 Aug 2024, 01:31
by maverick180
I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:57
by Sir Alf
It’s gonna be Steve Cooper isn’t it ?  Rooney’s available too. Razzle dazzle !!! 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:56
by simons
Loppy does the presser for the cup game tomorrow. He can’t go in front of the press with this going on. Sullivan must know that, but does he fucking care?

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:47
by goose
Westside wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:38
 
 
Everton also have an outstanding PSR matter outstanding, over and above the years they've been punished for and a further potential points deduction. A decision on how they treated interest costs on loans for their new stadium, was deferred from the original PSR hearing. Depending on which sources you believe, a decison has been made and not published, or the commission haven't reached a decison yet. They are right on the margins of PSR limits currently, so won't have a lot to spend. But, they don't have Sullivan.
 
 
This is why Dyche or Moyes are perfect for them at the moment. They need a manager who can get results with limited resources for a couple of seasons. Once they are on a stronger footing financially they can start looking at investing in the squad.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:46
by Mad Ferret
Everton are the bigger club obvs, just look at the history of the two clubs.

However, they are less relevant than us these days. That might change when they move into their new ground though.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:39
by Manuel
Shirley if this is for real it has to be done today, no?

Fwiw, I don't see him going to Everton, looks like that one has just been conveniently made up.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:38
by Westside
Pub Bigot" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:53 If Everton are interested in Potter and they're offering a 2-year deal, he'd be stupid to turn it down. They've just been taken over, have a new stadium they're moving into for the start of the 25/26 season and will have money to play with. 

If you compare with what's possibly on the table from us, it's a no-brainer. 
 
 
Everton also have an outstanding PSR matter outstanding, over and above the years they've been punished for and a further potential points deduction. A decision on how they treated interest costs on loans for their new stadium, was deferred from the original PSR hearing. Depending on which sources you believe, a decison has been made and not published, or the commission haven't reached a decison yet. They are right on the margins of PSR limits currently, so won't have a lot to spend. But, they don't have Sullivan.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:36
by Maverick180180
So gets the sack if Potter says yes 
but if Potter says no, then it’s OK to keep him in the job 

the bloke is a fucking fraud, worst manager I’ve ever seen in my life, and that’s saying something 

Sullivan is such a cretinous little cսnt it’s unreal 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:35
by twoleftfeet
Ladysmith wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:16 I think he will choose Everton because quite simply they are the bigger club
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Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:34
by ragingbull
I can't see Lop walking otherwise that'll be 2 jobs he's walked out on, he'll never get a job in football again.
I think he'll carry on until the inevitable sack.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:30
by Fauxstralian
Not sure of the details of the takeover but Everton will have the debt from the new stadium to deal with & not sure they are in any position to spend.
Dont have many saleable assets apart from maybe Branthwaite & Pickford so dont have room to move

Someone mentioned Potter is based on the south coast so might not fancy the grim north. 
If we think he is the right man then dont insult him with 6 months
And if Lopetegui is done put him out of his misery and sack him even if it means a caretaker on Friday

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:21
by violator
Vexed wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:17
Ladysmith wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:16 I think he will choose Everton because quite simply they are the bigger club
By what metric? It's not the 80s no more. 
COS HE/SHE/THEY IS A YID

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:17
by Vexed
Ladysmith wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 12:16 I think he will choose Everton because quite simply they are the bigger club
By what metric? It's not the 80s no more. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:16
by Vexed
Pub Bigot" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 10:25 Typically embarrassing fuck up by the club, which shows the board for the market stall trader types they are. If you're Daniel Kretinsky, how are you letting the midget drag your name through the mud with his amateur hour approach. 

As for Graham Potter, I'm sure he is a good choice for manager, but he's walking into a circus and will be a scapegoated eventually. Or will he see that as Martin O'Neil did and walk away?



 
 
 
The Martin O'Neil thing is weird, everyone sees it as the club fucking up and MON sticking it to them for being slimy cunts - which is true and laudable and everything, but everyone seems to forget that decision pretty much marked the end of MON as a manager at the top level. He barely worked at the top level again, competent half season for Sunderland, sacked the season after if i recall. Then never worked into he Prem again. Potter has to have one eye on drifting into irrelevance if he doesn't start working again too. However I'd definitely be thinking hard before joining us, it's risky for him because if it all goes tits that's two jobs in a row he's naused up, then he's struggling. Would you place your future in the hands of an idiot like Sullivan? Not sure that risk/reward ratio stacks up. 
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Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:16
by Ladysmith
I think he will choose Everton because quite simply they are the bigger club

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:14
by zico
We will probably end up with Sean Dyche!

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 12:13
by Sir Alf
One upside of Potter taking the Everton job will be making Sullivan look like the duplicitous snide he is. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:59
by goose
Probably mentioned already, but Lopetegui took training this morning - imagine how awkward that must be for everyone involved.

It'll get even more embarrassing when Potter ends up at Everton.

whatever happens the fans should not forgive or forget this. Sullivan simply HAS to go.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:53
by Pub Bigot
If Everton are interested in Potter and they're offering a 2-year deal, he'd be stupid to turn it down. They've just been taken over, have a new stadium they're moving into for the start of the 25/26 season and will have money to play with. 

If you compare with what's possibly on the table from us, it's a no-brainer. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:48
by Sir Alf
Longer it goes on the better? End of transfer window in 3 weeks 👍

We’ve seen it before. All part of the “Sullivan Playbook”.  

Potter will wait for another offer and take that should there be one or leave it until end of Han when its too late to do snything meaningful in the transfer market.

What I find hard to understand ( yeah I find lots of things hard to understand these days 🤭) is fans who say “the club is making us a laughing stock”, “the club is behaving appallingly”. That’s not accurate enough for me.  Its David Sullivan. Brady just executes his commands. The club circus, the shambles, mess, amateurish approach to “everything” is a mark of the man. A clueless, charlatan, con man. 

Nothing good will happen because of Sullivan. The conf cup win and 3 seasons was in spite of Sullivan.


 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:46
by southbankbornnbred
Takashi Miike" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:43
Manuel wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:36
Takashi Miike" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:32 Anyone know when Potter's twenty four hours to think started, or will the little midget bastard string that out too?
 
Again, why it don't sound right to me. 'Tomorrow' is a long day, are we suppose to believe that Steitden is pacing up and down starting at his phone to ring or waiting for a whatsapp....sounds like bollocks.
 
Exactly, it's the vermin (Sullivan/Brady) again buying time as they no doubt know Potter has zero interest in such a short contract. I'm sure they pulled a similar stunt last season, I just can't remember exactly what it was but they hoped it was forgot about by friday. Don't get me wrong, I don't want Potter either, but the little cսnt won't pay compensation for someone like Silva or Frank so we are well and truly screwed.
It's worse than that, TM. Our stupid offer will have actively encouraged Potter and his representatives to approach other clubs to inquire about the potential for a better deal. Guaranteed, if Everton were not already in touch with Potter they are now - because his folk will have gone off and used the West Ham offer as leverage. It would be sensible (for him) to do so.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:44
by southbankbornnbred
zico wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:34
Fauxstralian wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:08 Personally think all manager contracts should be a rolling 12 months so you aren’t looking at multi year amounts of compensation 
Think many clubs do cap the payoff rather than make it the balance of the contract
You can always say if you are below half way for a certain period that you can be sacked with say a years money
When Pardew got an 8 year contract at Newcastle am sure he didn’t get the balance of those 8 years
 
Agree with that with maybe big bonuses for winning a Cup or European qualification, etc.,  That might even persuade managers to put out their best teams in the Cup Competitions.  I suspect Clubs do it to protect themselves from losing a Manager to a bigger Club if they are successfull but you could argue the PL or FA could get involved in that by creating certain rules about Clubs poaching managers.
 
 
It's just not realistic. Most sides offer multi-year contracts - so why would we want to be the ones who massively (further!) inhibit our ability to appoint good talent by insisting on a rolling 12-month deal? You don't find those contracts elsewhere - we'd look even more fucking nuts to any potential manager if we tried it.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:43
by Takashi Miike
Manuel wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:36
Takashi Miike" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:32 Anyone know when Potter's twenty four hours to think started, or will the little midget bastard string that out too?
 
Again, why it don't sound right to me. 'Tomorrow' is a long day, are we suppose to believe that Steitden is pacing up and down starting at his phone to ring or waiting for a whatsapp....sounds like bollocks.
 
 
Exactly, it's the vermin (Sullivan/Brady) again buying time as they no doubt know Potter has zero interest in such a short contract. I'm sure they pulled a similar stunt last season, I just can't remember exactly what it was but they hoped it was forgot about by friday. Don't get me wrong, I don't want Potter either, but the little cսnt won't pay compensation for someone like Silva or Frank so we are well and truly screwed.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:41
by Manuel
Stiedten to Sulli ''It's midday now boss and I still haven't heard from Harry, if still nothing by around half two I'm gonna give him a call or a whatsapp, fuck this''

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:39
by claypole
LJC wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:19 Another rumour (I know, I know) is that Potter has turned us down 🤣
 
 
If true I am really hoping the next target would be Carrick. Initially thought the job would be too big for him but think he would do well here, but that would mean paying a compensation to get him so never going to happen. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 11:36
by Manuel
Takashi Miike" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 11:32 Anyone know when Potter's twenty four hours to think started, or will the little midget bastard string that out too?
 
 
Again, why it don't sound right to me. 'Tomorrow' is a long day, are we suppose to believe that Steitden is pacing up and down starting at his phone to ring or waiting for a whatsapp....sounds like bollocks.