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https://www.whufc.com/news/graham-potte ... head-coach

​​​​​​In the past he's favoured a 3-4-3 formation...hard to see how we can do that currently with only 3 senior CBs, one of whom is injured. He's also played wingers (Solly March as an example) in the wing back roles.

Typically when a 3-4-3 gets announced on a match day the manager is immediately described as being too negative, too cautious etc. I guess it depends on the composition of the 4.

He's given young players chances...hopefully that continues at West Ham.

Welcome Graham.
 
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dealcanvey wrote: 18 Jan 2025, 17:25 Surprised at the Stick he’s getting already on the Fulham thread.

what are people honestly expecting with what he has available?

don’t think I’ve ever seen a manager of ours have such a lack of options at his disposal. 

Hes inherited a mess and this is going to take time. 
 
 
Who made you judge and jury?? The old 'what do you expect' crap. Bore off. What I don't expect is an old man at the back who was finished 3 years ago, a fraudster in midfield, zero shots on target and passing the ball backwards all fucking game against Crystal 'fucking' Palace in front of 60,000 fans freezing their nuts off. That alright with you?
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dealcanvey wrote: 18 Jan 2025, 17:25 Surprised at the Stick he’s getting already on the Fulham thread.

what are people honestly expecting with what he has available?

don’t think I’ve ever seen a manager of ours have such a lack of options at his disposal. 

Hes inherited a mess and this is going to take time. 
managers are judged in adversity!

but unfortunately, he is too flaky to sort out this mess!
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Surprised at the Stick he’s getting already on the Fulham thread.

what are people honestly expecting with what he has available?

don’t think I’ve ever seen a manager of ours have such a lack of options at his disposal. 

Hes inherited a mess and this is going to take time. 
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Ladysmith wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 07:53
twoleftfeet wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 07:10 I wonder what Troy Deeney means when he says “ I don’t see this working out long term “ in relation to Potter & us?

Strange thing to say 🤷‍♂️
Probably that he thinks Potter is bang average.

I would agree with him 👍
No I think you’ll find your gaffer is bang average, good old big Ange.
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Dick Shaftsbury" wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 09:58
Ladysmith wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 09:47
Takashi Miike" wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 08:01 It means deaney knows as much about football as that tragic cսnt, madsmith/ladyferret
You really are a troll, and a second rate one at that!
You've got some fucking front calling someone a second rate troll.
Stop being a dick 
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Ladysmith wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 09:47
Takashi Miike" wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 08:01 It means deaney knows as much about football as that tragic cսnt, madsmith/ladyferret
You really are a troll, and a second rate one at that!
You've got some fucking front calling someone a second rate troll.
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Takashi Miike" wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 08:01 It means deaney knows as much about football as that tragic cսnt, madsmith/ladyferret
You really are a troll, and a second rate one at that!
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Manuel wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 08:59
Takashi Miike" wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 08:50 his opinion is fucking worthless, how long did he last at forest green as manager, just over three weeks? he needs to keep his gob shut
I agree, what he knows about football you could write on the back of a postage stamp, but he can still say what he thinks even if it is a nonsense. To be fair, when Potter was linked with us before there were plenty on here that didn't want him, some were venomously against it. 
he's writing off a bloke with a solid dozen years in management, yet couldn't last a month at a clown club like forest green, and the plenty on here that were wary of potter hadn't yet experienced the spanish version of moyes

it really doesn't matter what we're venomously against, that little cսnt in charge calls every fucking shot and we get who we're given. just be aware that if and when potter demands too much, or gets too popular with the fans, that midget bastard will get his loyal team of glove puppets to shit stir via various sites, papers and youtube channels
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Troy Deeney is probably a decent enough bloke - But let's be honest, he only works in the media for one reason and it isn't his knowledge or personality. He is as thick as shit and as dull as dishwater. So has to often say contentions things to get noticed. 

As Manuel said, he's entitled to his opinion as is everyone else, but I wonder if he has any informative content to substantiate why he doesn't think it will be a good appointment long term? Probably not. His two brain cells get tired just ensuring he breathes, so its probably a push to get him to back anything he says up with anything worthy of listening to. 
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Takashi Miike" wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 08:50 his opinion is fucking worthless, how long did he last at forest green as manager, just over three weeks? he needs to keep his gob shut
I agree, what he knows about football you could write on the back of a postage stamp, but he can still say what he thinks even if it is a nonsense. To be fair, when Potter was linked with us before there were plenty on here that didn't want him, some were venomously against it. 
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his opinion is fucking worthless, how long did he last at forest green as manager, just over three weeks? he needs to keep his gob shut
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Deeney is entitled to his opinion and no need to get all upset about it, but it does seem a strange thing to say, would have made more sense had he just said he doesn't think it's a good appointment.
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Takashi Miike" wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 08:01 It means deaney knows as much about football as that tragic cսnt, madsmith/ladyferret
Ladybender is a Spurs plant.
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It means deaney knows as much about football as that tragic cսnt, madsmith/ladyferret
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twoleftfeet wrote: 17 Jan 2025, 07:10 I wonder what Troy Deeney means when he says “ I don’t see this working out long term “ in relation to Potter & us?

Strange thing to say 🤷‍♂️
Probably that he thinks Potter is bang average.

I would agree with him 👍
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I wonder what Troy Deeney means when he says “ I don’t see this working out long term “ in relation to Potter & us?

Strange thing to say 🤷‍♂️
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stubbo wrote: 16 Jan 2025, 11:13
El Scorchio" wrote: 16 Jan 2025, 10:42
threesixty wrote: 16 Jan 2025, 10:35
 
You say that but then why wasn’t Scarles played earlier instead of putting AWB at left back to cover for Emerson? You think Scarles was only decent in training a few weeks ago and forced himself in the team? 

Guilherme could be doing well but we have 2 senior players ahead of him who are rated as some of the best players in the league (Kudus, Bowen). So what manager under the kosh is going to play LG ahead of them? LG progression needs a plan. They already had Bowen and kudus so what was the plan to develop this guy for 1st team football? 

There is no way he’s a shit player. 
You'd imagine that they were thinking one of Kudus or Bowen would move on in a year or two's time and then he'd step into that role. That thing called succession planning that anyone forward thinking is able to do. Brighton again being the prime example- their players get sold and someone else is ready to step right into the role in the team. The opposite of having your one striker or fullback get injured and have zero players in the squad on standby to step into the team fairly seamlessly.

Say what you like about his signings, but he had a plan.  Even Fullkrug....he signed him for a manager that wants a forward who wants someone good in the air, good in the box, strong, and able to hold up play and bring others into it.  Arguably Fullkrug fits that profile much better than Duran.  So good or bad, you can see some logic.


Shame then he didn't bother (or remember?) to do his due diligence on the perma-crock spending bit on him for the privilege. Not that an old Striker fits Lopetegui's Striker Profile either. That would be the likes of Duran/Ormorodion..
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Lee Trundle" wrote: 16 Jan 2025, 16:38 By saying the AWB and Summerville were are best bits of our transfer business?

Maybe I should pretend they're not and drink the TIM cool aid juice?
Not by saying it. By repeating it. Again. And again. And again. It's like you have an agenda. Or you're just really boring.

Anyway, as usual you just ignore the whole point of what was being said so I won't waste time carrying on.
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By saying the AWB and Summerville were are best bits of our transfer business?

Maybe I should pretend they're not and drink the TIM cool aid juice?
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Lee Trundle" wrote: 16 Jan 2025, 16:19 I think I do get it.

It's just I don't think it's a good thing to bring up as it paints Sullivan in a good light.  The only 2 positives from the transfer window were AWB and Summerville.  Sullivan's picks. 

I think my issue is more with TIM as I still waiting for him to be as good as everyone tells me he is.  Fullkrug was a disaster of a signing.  I don't care if he fitted with Lopetegui's style (whatever that was).
 
 
Do you get it? It doesn't seem like it.

It's a bit like a couple of years back when Rice started playing as a B2B instead of the holding midfielder he was before. Was he good at it? Yes. Did it help the team? No. Not at all. We were worse because of it.

Not sure what you mean about painting Sullivan in a good light as the only one trying to do that is clearly you.
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..."The only 2 positives from the transfer window were AWB and Summerville.  Sullivan's picks. "...

Not beyond reasonable probability that Sullivan vetoed the purchase of better players (that were not his picks) in order to assert his authority (and line his agent mates' pockets).


And, no, I can't name names here, but all his faffing around with players like Duran suggest he has form for such an approach to deals.
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I think I do get it.

It's just I don't think it's a good thing to bring up as it paints Sullivan in a good light.  The only 2 positives from the transfer window were AWB and Summerville.  Sullivan's picks. 

I think my issue is more with TIM as I still waiting for him to be as good as everyone tells me he is.  Fullkrug was a disaster of a signing.  I don't care if he fitted with Lopetegui's style (whatever that was).
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Lee Trundle" wrote: 16 Jan 2025, 15:28 He played well under Lopetegui.  Probably the only player that did.

And all these other players that were bought to play his system weren't as good.
Again, you're missing the point. You don't seem to get that it's a team game. However well an individual might play doesn't matter much if he doesn't fulfil the role required of him for the team to actually win games.

In any case, the problem with having a manager who is limited in his approach means that if one or two pieces of the jigsaw are missing then it all falls apart. Seeing as Lopetegui needed a striker like Fullkrug but didn't have one who was fit then it became a moot point whether the full backs could provide crosses for him anyway.
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Just watched the palace presser. I had given up on these for the past few years. Thoughtful and articulate, very impressive. 
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... oh and Summerville was the other bright spot.

But he was another player who was bought for the wrong system as well.
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