Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[Luisa]

As if winning a cup is worth 100k - prize money maybe but spin off merchandise is massive alongside additional gate money etc.

[Yorkammer]

"RichyP 1:38 Fri Dec 22 ""a quarter final in the league cup takes priority over any league game"" Winning the Carabo Cup is worth £100k. Finishing a place higher in the Premier League is worth around £2m. I think the board priorities may differ from yours and Moyes will be incentivised accordingly."

[daveyg]

"Capitol Man. I can't fathom out why you post such drivel. Moyes has had the whole season to intergrate the squad and youth team into adequate replacements.There are times when he just has to manage the players,every game there should be better use of his squad. Most teams give players a break before the 87th minute.That has become a joke of a moment in the match. It's his squad. He doesn't give Coventry or Cornet any game time. Kehrer is relegated to a few minutes at the end of the game. He brings on Ings and we all watch how inept he is. We have two strikers in the youth team who should be getting minutes as we don't have a striker in his set up. He gives chances to Cresswell and Ogbonna who are 2 years gone in the PL. He isolates Johnson then brings him in at Anfield at left back..It's just continious poor man management. Then to spout what he said in his press conference is just the last straw."

[Pee Wee]

"""Get us back into Europe""ù But don't do it the most likely way by winning the league cup."

[BRANDED]

"There have been good managers that failed expectations at clubs. Managers that looked shit but got it right. Superstar managers that get it right. Some that get it right for a while and then lose it. Etc. Moyes does what he's asked to do. He does it his way. None of us know what the actual conversations are but it looks like "" get us back into Europe""."

[Russ of the BML]

"scott_d 10:52 Thu Dec 21 He was asked about rumours of his contract not being renewed and he answered: ""The contract isn't important. I enjoy the job. And as long as I get enough wins to keep the board happy then that's good for me. I've got a great relationship with the owners so I don't see any reason to panic about it."""

[Russ of the BML]

Capitol Man 1:24 Fri Dec 22 Just because you've been doing something for so long it doesn't mean you are good at it. I have it on good authority from people within the club that his man management skills have been questioned and called out 'numerous' times by players and staff.

[RichyP]

"'I think he may have got that wrong to be honest' - after a 5-1 scoreline which actually flattered us, you THINK he MAY have got it wrong???? Fuck me, what would it take for you to KNOW he DEFINITELY got it wrong? 'Now the lowest domestic cup is more important than the league.' Absofuckinglutely a quarter final in the league cup takes priority over any league game UNLESS we are up to our necks in a relegation fight or in with a serious chance of coming top 4. Neither of which is happening this season. Also, the 'lower domestic cup' as you put it is a much stronger competition and harder to win than the Europa Conference League. Fuck me, we have one one trophy since 1980 and you seriously think we should be turning our noses up at winning the league cup and prioritising a meaningless league game?"

[Sir Alf]

"He will dine out on the Conference cup win for the rest of his career ( at 60 it might be up to 10 years if he does a Woy ). I would speculate at the start of this season the board said that our league position cannot be like it was last season where we were in the relegation mix? His contracts up and it's all about David Moyes and his career so in his head I will get us mid table or above and they will be happy. Get to the knock out stages of the Europa and what will they have to complain about. It's only West Ham, look at their history. They are lucky to have me keeping them out of trouble and getting them a cup and European football. Not entirely incorrect except it leaves out the level of investment in players which has never been higher and a certain Tim Steidten who we hope has loftier ambitions. I keep saying it, Steidten is key. If he indeed has ambition and here's the big IF , Sullivan has truly empowered him to make all football related decisions or recommendations then Moyes will go with a thanks but on the understanding the club wants to take a different direction. Of course there are always risks when you change a manager / coach but the hope is that Steidten will in parallel work to address the squad issues and holes in the first 11. Btw, club shop now selling the new Moyesie's West Ham flag""¶.. pair of white crossed hammers on a white background"

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

We've got boring David Moyes The way we play we rarely have the ball He don't like to attack so we sit deep at the back We've got boring David Moyes

[David L]

"Nicely put, Eerie"

[Willtell]

"You're absolutely right there Comma. The problem for Moyes is that his formative years in management were spent keeping Everton in PL with a small squad and little or no spending money. West Ham are at the stage where we need to move on from the ma n that got us there because he clearly cannot adapt as was shown by his time at Man Utd. When Moyes is criticised for not rotating I am sure that means in-game rotation. Making plenty of substitutions as other managers do, reminds players someone else is ready to step into their shoes and keeps the squad match fit. Chucking in 6 reserves as starters against Liverpool after several games where most of them haven't played for ages is reminiscent of Allardyce putting out the entire U21's in a cup game after being criticised for not giving youth a chance...."

[Takashi Miike]

"""but when coming to the important games against the stronger teams he has put out our best elevens."" yet on wednesday, in our most important game of the season so far, the cսnt does the complete opposite"

[,]

"Moyes has successfully used squad rotation in three European seasons but when coming to the important games against the stronger teams he has put out our best elevens. There is no way we can compete against the EPL's top teams and squad rotate, we simply don't have the strength in depth. For me we should have put out our best, fit, eleven to start with and given it a go."

[Willtell]

When fans talk rotation they are including keeping players match fit by making substitutions other than bringing Fornals on in the 89th minute.

[lincslink]

"He could try rotating with some of our young players, they know how to win."

[Eerie Descent]

"This whole thing of 'you all wanted him to rotate, and now he has look what happened' I mean, wow. The lack of general understanding of football, and the situation at West Ham, is truly astounding. But then again, it's mainly coming from a bloke in Norway who doesn't go to games, a bloke in America who doesn't go to games, and a bloke in York who doesn't go to games."

[Willtell]

"You can always tell a bad manager by the way he blames others for his own failings. Like losing the game was down to terrible defending for the 2nd gaol against Liverpool just as we getting into the game... Really? Nothing to do with sticking in 6 players all of whom are lacking in game time? Nor that changes should have been made at half time? I think the second goal was where Soucek left Jones to run into the box wasn't it? Is that the same Soucek that we can all see lacks ball playing skills but never gets dropped or subbed? And then when confronted by gentle questions from media he immediately turns on the ""success in Europe"" and ""we are still building"" and other such bollocks. He has spent £450m on players but must have wasted almost half of that on Cornet, Ings, Scamacca, Haller, Vlassic, Kral, Downes and so on. And never mind the youth team players that rarely get a run in the first team unless they play hard ball on their contract... FFS Sullivan sack him before you really ruin the basis of a really good squad."

[onsideman]

"I'm an STH. Of course I would have preferred him to have prioritised the cup game, but I'm so much more pissed off that he has curated a squad with no depth whatsoever. In our first season in the Europa League I would say we had 16 or 17 almost interchangeable players. That was probably down by a couple during last year's cup win, but through his treatment of certain players, his acquisition of others and the age and lack of form or ability of even more, we probably have 12 now, so rotation is off the table without significant weakening. That is some fucking legacy"

[chim chim cha boo]

"With respect Mike, that's absolute bollocks."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"To call what Moyes is currently doing ""management"" is just lazy, incompetent journalistic labelling. It's 100% NOT ""Management"". What it is, is 100% ""Looking after your mates"", it's 100% making sure that his successor has to build up from the bottom without the benefit of success this season, it's 100% leaving a squad of demotivated players for the next chap to get a tune out of. That's a few 100%'s there - and here's one just for Sullivan; Moyes is 100% going to leave you with an expensive but worthless squad should you allow him to continue on this path. Is that what you want? 'cos that's what will happen."

[Capitol Man]

"I think he may have got that wrong to be honest, which I've said repeatedly already - but I can at least see why he did it. Wants to push on in the league and we virtually never win at Anfield no matter what team we play. But a lot of those who want him gone downplay the cup he won last year and talk about the shitty league position. Now the lowest domestic cup is more important than the league."

[RichyP]

"""òIf he switched out the squad from Wednesday and Saturday isn't he potentially letting down ten times the number of our supporters at a home game?""ò With all due respect, you haven't got a clue. Not one season ticket holder I know would prioritise a home league game over a cup quarter final unless we were up to our necks in a relegation battle."

[RichyP]

"Capitol Man 1:42 Fri Dec He could and should have brought players off when we went 3 up at home to wolves saving key players 20 mins in their legs He should have prioritised the quarter final against liverpool bt starting zouma, paqueta, ward prowse and Emersen and rested them all, if needed against Man U this weekend. The game on weds was much bigger and should have been prioritised above this Saturdays league game against Man U, If we were in danger of relegation like we were this time last season I would 100% agree with prioritising the Man U league game, but we are not so should have prioritised the cup game"

[Capitol Man]

"And for the hat trick - I get why those who went are pissed off, but literally any games where he rotates players and we don't win he's ""let the fans down""ù. If he switched out the squad from Wednesday and Saturday isn't he potentially letting down ten times the number of our supporters at a home game?"