Nuno Out

[northbankfrank]

2,500 posts by the end of the season?

[Takashi Miike]

it's unsustainable playing this way, especially when all your CBs are shit. so little margin for error, and almost impossible to win a game if we concede first. but it's been this way under successive managers, and that midget fucker continues punishing the fans with these dinosaur method coaches

[XKhammer]

Got to give Nuno a chance 
Don't get these doom and gloom posters on here,especially the ones that dont even go to games what do you expect?
Play like Brazil and be 3 nil up in first 10 minutes every game?
I'm not saying he's the saviour but he's got to be backed by fans and board
I don't think we will go down or be anything special this season 

[GBHammer63]

I'm far from convinced by Nuno. Has he learnt. It seems not. We had 2 shots on target 2 off ,both of which were no where the target. If that's progress then some of you need you heads looked at. He isn't using the youth as much as what some people think. He's using them in training to make up the numbers especially in international break. He started of with a bore draw to safe face then gave Arsenal the points with no shots. 2 week break to look at everyone and he does that against Brentford yet he does the same shit against Leeds.2 wins granted were good but we struggled against Burnley.International break and he comes up with more shit.Wilson saved him by scoring with the only 2 shots on target. 
He's wasted a lot of minutes by not seeing how Guilherme would get on in some of those games,not play him on the left wing which isn't his natural poistion for the first time.
I hope he watched the U21's last night, I fear not. Earthy and Kante were class. They are similar to Potts in that the can pass and see a player.One touch quick and simple,they've being doing that all season.Even Marshall scored a great goal that Fulkrug will never do for us again.
Nuno had better get this right against Liverpool anymore of this dull,defensive shit and he can do one. Sort the frigging bench out too no Fulkrug or Rodriguez taking up space when they will be gone.

 

 

Even though we had a decent starting 11, when it clearly wasn’t working, just absorbing pressure, sitting back, trying to disrupt, team playing badly, dodgy ref, cheating cսnt Pool players fucking whatever, Nuno’s options off that bench were fucking abysmal, I agree, he’s not fucking learning any lessons just plodding on doing the same old shit, it’s cowardly.

[THUNDERCLINT]

We need better players and a better squad. 

The failure to provide them sits with the recruitment people and the owners. 

You can have the best players and squad in history but if the cսnt manager won't let them play football and try to win what's the point?

[Sweep]

We need better players and a better squad. 

The failure to provide them sits with the recruitment people and the owners. 

[Rossal]

twoleft , you're always defending the undefensable, first Moyes for years now this dreadful cսnt of a manager.He's got no ball's, 4 games that could have been won quite easily with a positive attitude. Now it's him lauding up that other cսnt Paqueta so he feels justified in his actions. Paqueta should never play again for us,hopefully his attitude as he left the pitch doubles his ban,he adds nothing just like Nuno.I'm sick and tired of our managers negative approach to games,what is the point in 9 defensive players on the pitch then 7 on the bench.

Changing managers every 5 minutes doesn’t work. I’m merely stating a fact. This one needs some time to bring in his own players then you can judge him. No one could do anything with this bunch of cunts that we have.

But then if he is still shit we're yet again stuck with a squad of players who a manager who is no longer here bought. Already done that with Lop and Potter. 

[twoleftfeet]

twoleft , you're always defending the undefensable, first Moyes for years now this dreadful cսnt of a manager.He's got no ball's, 4 games that could have been won quite easily with a positive attitude. Now it's him lauding up that other cսnt Paqueta so he feels justified in his actions. Paqueta should never play again for us,hopefully his attitude as he left the pitch doubles his ban,he adds nothing just like Nuno.I'm sick and tired of our managers negative approach to games,what is the point in 9 defensive players on the pitch then 7 on the bench.

Changing managers every 5 minutes doesn’t work. I’m merely stating a fact. This one needs some time to bring in his own players then you can judge him. No one could do anything with this bunch of cunts that we have.

[BoleynGone]

twoleft , you're always defending the undefensable, first Moyes for years now this dreadful cսnt of a manager.He's got no ball's, 4 games that could have been won quite easily with a positive attitude. Now it's him lauding up that other cսnt Paqueta so he feels justified in his actions. Paqueta should never play again for us,hopefully his attitude as he left the pitch doubles his ban,he adds nothing just like Nuno.I'm sick and tired of our managers negative approach to games,what is the point in 9 defensive players on the pitch then 7 on the bench.

[Massive Attack]

Imagine how good Bowen would actually be if he actually had a progressive positive manager who demands his Teams play a lot more on the front foot. Bowen has achieved what he's done with us whilst under ultra predominantly Defensive gutless Footballing philosophy. Nuno is no different. In fact his game and form has regressed further.

Give him say a Howe, Emery, Maresca, Klopp and oh ny Christ would that boy fly even more. Incredible to think of the numbers hes produced under so many defence obsessed managers.

[Far Cough UKunt]

It might be sacrilege to say but Bowen has been shit for the last three games now.

Liverpool were there for the taking but I think we only mustered one fucking shot on target all game. Keep playing like this and league one beckons.

Billy would have strangled that lot at half time.

[Come On You Irons]

I think a 0-0 draw would have been a fair result, but Liverpool were clinical in attack whilst we huffed and puffed and barely created anything.

It's going to be a long hard season and I stand by my conviction that we will be in a season long relegation battle under this manager. The January transfer window will be make or break.

[Ron Eff]

I honestly don’t think we parked the bus. It was a game of few chances. I have no real complaints with how we approached that. They defended very well, and to be honest, so they should. 

[Come On You Irons]

25% win rate now. Awful.

[THUNDERCLINT]

I’m not sure we’ve left our own half in the last 135min of football.

Only accidentally. 

[goose]

I’m not sure we’ve left our own half in the last 135min of football.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Oh shut up you tarts. Replacing managers clearly doesn’t work. Give him some time. 

I hope you choke on your dreidel you cսnt.

[twoleftfeet]

Oh shut up you tarts. Replacing managers clearly doesn’t work. Give him some time. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Play well and lose. Fine.

Played badly but try to win, lose. Fine.

Park the bus like a coward, surrender possession, let the opposition stroll about unoppossed, present no offence. Lose.

What's the fucking point?

Just bin this cսnt. It's unwatchable garbage.

[BoleynGone]

I want this CRACKHEAD and love Child PAQUETA gone from this club. Neither are half as good as some of the muppets who support us think they are. Paqueta was awful before his sending off the same as the negative manager we have brought in. 
7 defensive players on the bench,9 on the pitch.
Liverpool were appauling and we were worse. We have fantastic youth players who should be playing instead of this garbage. How Nuno doesn't watch them is beyond believe. Mark Robson should be ramming it down his throat that they are better than what he puts out.
 

[BoleynGone]

I'm far from convinced by Nuno. Has he learnt. It seems not. We had 2 shots on target 2 off ,both of which were no where the target. If that's progress then some of you need you heads looked at. He isn't using the youth as much as what some people think. He's using them in training to make up the numbers especially in international break. He started of with a bore draw to safe face then gave Arsenal the points with no shots. 2 week break to look at everyone and he does that against Brentford yet he does the same shit against Leeds.2 wins granted were good but we struggled against Burnley.International break and he comes up with more shit.Wilson saved him by scoring with the only 2 shots on target. 
He's wasted a lot of minutes by not seeing how Guilherme would get on in some of those games,not play him on the left wing which isn't his natural poistion for the first time.
I hope he watched the U21's last night, I fear not. Earthy and Kante were class. They are similar to Potts in that the can pass and see a player.One touch quick and simple,they've being doing that all season.Even Marshall scored a great goal that Fulkrug will never do for us again.
Nuno had better get this right against Liverpool anymore of this dull,defensive shit and he can do one. Sort the frigging bench out too no Fulkrug or Rodriguez taking up space when they will be gone.

[El Scorchio]

Away from home is a different game. And he came on with far less time to go in those wins. Giving him 45mins with no legs around him was such a bad call. 

Its easy to say that after the fact. It had worked effectively in the previous two games so it was the logical move. If he didn't do it and we'd ended up drawing or losing, then the moan would be 'why didn't he do the same as the last two games'.  

I disagree, it was logical at all for the reasons already stated. No one wanted him to replace two attackers with 2 defenders by the 53rd minute. Soucek 2 goals from a combined 40cm out massivly deflected the fact that he was pretty poor in those games up top.  He wins headers up there but that was pretty much it, then pops up with two goals on the line and is the hero. Its some party trick.... 

He didnt do the same as the last two games, Soucek had legs round him up top for starters......and then a RB didnt play left wing.  As i say in those conditions and away from home an out ball was needed. 

Anyway heres hoping he has learned from it as the best way to defend against Liverpool at the minute is to attack. Sitting back against their attack will be a waste of time. 

Yeah I suspect we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one! But agree about him learning going forward which I think for the most part he has aside from the absolute brainfart at Leeds. I would like him unlike Moyes would, to take it to a wounded team and not just retreat to our 18 yard box giving them all the time, possession and territory they need to really get confident, get a foothold in the game and put themselves massively on the front foot and us on the back foot. That was my number one frustration with the latter seasons of Moyes. Always being too scared to realise an opportunity to impose ourselves on a game.

We partly have to accept that Nuno's style is to sit deep soak up pressure and hit on the break so there will be pragmatism but you also have to hope he will get his teams to be aggressive and go for the jugular if there is an opportunity to do so.

[Rossal]

With two goals in his last two games there which were both victories with late goals, I'd argue going on the evidence prior to Saturday, putting Soucek up front for Wilson was not mental.

Away from home is a different game. And he came on with far less time to go in those wins. Giving him 45mins with no legs around him was such a bad call. 

Its easy to say that after the fact. It had worked effectively in the previous two games so it was the logical move. If he didn't do it and we'd ended up drawing or losing, then the moan would be 'why didn't he do the same as the last two games'.  

I disagree, it was logical at all for the reasons already stated. No one wanted him to replace two attackers with 2 defenders by the 53rd minute. Soucek 2 goals from a combined 40cm out massivly deflected the fact that he was pretty poor in those games up top.  He wins headers up there but that was pretty much it, then pops up with two goals on the line and is the hero. Its some party trick.... 

He didnt do the same as the last two games, Soucek had legs round him up top for starters......and then a RB didnt play left wing.  As i say in those conditions and away from home an out ball was needed. 

Anyway heres hoping he has learned from it as the best way to defend against Liverpool at the minute is to attack. Sitting back against their attack will be a waste of time. 

[El Scorchio]

"Actually think there is very little he could have done to change the second half"

Completely disagree with this.  We invited pressure due to us not having a outlet up top. Ghillurme and Marshall while they may be inexperienced, will run and press from the front which takes the pressure of the back 4. 

Soucek up top was mental, he can't run, can't play with his back to goal and is probably the worst technical player in the squad so his hold up play is non existent. He can win a header yes, but then there is no one running off him as we were so deep and one of the wingers was Walker-Peters. 

Blaming the wind is also ridiculous for me, I was watching it on the stream and Tony Gale called it right..... he said West Ham need to push up, get the back 4 higher up the pitch as any ball over the top would just blow through to the keeper or a goal kick. On the one occasion we pushed up, they pumped it long and it did exactly that. 

If he had to take Wilson off so early (for me he could of done 70 mins) then he should have gone Earthy or Marshall wide left,  Bowen through the middle and play Ghillurme wide right in his natural position. 

Or play Magassa through the middle again for legs and he is good on the ball to allow us to keep it, and play Fernandes wide left. 

We were fucked because he took off legs in Ghillurme and added on someone who can't control or keep the ball in Soucek and then stuck a RB on at left wing.  Had he done things differently we should of won the game, the notion that we would face so many shots and under the cosh regardless of what Nuno done for me is nonsense. 

With two goals in his last two games there which were both victories with late goals, I'd argue going on the evidence prior to Saturday, putting Soucek up front for Wilson was not mental.

Away from home is a different game. And he came on with far less time to go in those wins. Giving him 45mins with no legs around him was such a bad call. 

Its easy to say that after the fact. It had worked effectively in the previous two games so it was the logical move. If he didn't do it and we'd ended up drawing or losing, then the moan would be 'why didn't he do the same as the last two games'.  

[BoleynGone]

Rossal,
Agreed,Earthy the obvious choice from the start,he's been playing above a level than U21's by a country mile.Doesn't anyone remember he actually scored for us ? He had a great end of season at BC where he would have had to do exactly what was required.The BC fans loved him as he ran through brick walls's,assited and fully contributed to their surprise paly off spot. He can see a pass and would have worked better with Fernandes and Potts.
let's be clear it's 8 points from 7 games.
Nuno isn't learning quick enough,he's had 2 international breaks which is almost a pre-season to work with the majority of players. has played some of the most negative pub like football at West Ham in years and that's saying something. His selections and subs have been dreadful only making the situation worse.
I can't see us picking up more than 3 or 4  points till the end of the year. Back in the relegation zone. If he carries on with the same tactics and selections he'll lose the dressing room. Paqueta is an arm flaying gesture to the wrong ref of losing it,Bowen can't be happy that the team can't produce enough shots,Wilson being taken off,full backs gone and no one given any minutes at right back,the youth will be the same as under Moyes just sitting there watching as so called seasoned pro's fuck up. it can and should have been better,Nuno surely would have watched us fIrst hand how poor we  were and worked a better plan out.
I just don't get him,I'm frustrated as fuck with these negative managers. Dyche has turned into a dominating,aggressive even attacking manager. There's no way Nuno will play like that,on the front foot.

[Rossal]

"Actually think there is very little he could have done to change the second half"

Completely disagree with this.  We invited pressure due to us not having a outlet up top. Ghillurme and Marshall while they may be inexperienced, will run and press from the front which takes the pressure of the back 4. 

Soucek up top was mental, he can't run, can't play with his back to goal and is probably the worst technical player in the squad so his hold up play is non existent. He can win a header yes, but then there is no one running off him as we were so deep and one of the wingers was Walker-Peters. 

Blaming the wind is also ridiculous for me, I was watching it on the stream and Tony Gale called it right..... he said West Ham need to push up, get the back 4 higher up the pitch as any ball over the top would just blow through to the keeper or a goal kick. On the one occasion we pushed up, they pumped it long and it did exactly that. 

If he had to take Wilson off so early (for me he could of done 70 mins) then he should have gone Earthy or Marshall wide left,  Bowen through the middle and play Ghillurme wide right in his natural position. 

Or play Magassa through the middle again for legs and he is good on the ball to allow us to keep it, and play Fernandes wide left. 

We were fucked because he took off legs in Ghillurme and added on someone who can't control or keep the ball in Soucek and then stuck a RB on at left wing.  Had he done things differently we should of won the game, the notion that we would face so many shots and under the cosh regardless of what Nuno done for me is nonsense. 

With two goals in his last two games there which were both victories with late goals, I'd argue going on the evidence prior to Saturday, putting Soucek up front for Wilson was not mental.

Away from home is a different game. And he came on with far less time to go in those wins. Giving him 45mins with no legs around him was such a bad call.