Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[ted fenton]

White students banned from Black History Month events at Westminster University | Headliners !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNs3zymc7j0

[BRANDED]

"Council bosses have sparked anger by tearing down any ""dangerous"" cemetery headstones over 18 inches high in a health and safety purge on 50,000 graves. Mourners at first believed the plots in north Yorkshire had been destroyed by vandals. But tiny stickers attached to the head stones in three cemeteries in Scarborough revealed the memorials had been uprooted and laid on the ground by council workmen. Safety checks were introduced in British cemeteries years ago to stop heavy memorials falling on people and injuring them. But many of the stones targeted at three cemeteries in Scarborough were little over knee height, prompting outrage from families."

[Fifth Column]

Branded I presume woks are being used to maintain the power of Chinese chefs?

[BRANDED]

Here's a long essay on how woks is being used to maintain certain powers in the USA. If you have the time its a decent read. https://unherd.com/?p=446548?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups%5B0%5D=18743&tl_period_type=3&mc_cid=d6deab138c&mc_eid=668b57c879

[Fo the Communist]

Irons - doubting the real power and influence of the LGA is hardly misinformation. And certainly not comparable to the initial misrepresentations you now accept as that. The LGA is what it is - the professional association for local authorities. It is evidently well-supported currently - that's not always been the case. Let's see how widely the recommendations of this guide are taken up by English councils - nearly 40 percent of which are Conservative controlled.

[ironsofcanada]

*certainly

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo the Communist 10:43 Thu Oct 6 Mate, again that point was agreed upon long ago. You can slay that strawman again if you want but that was not close to all you said. You particpated in the misinformation that you condemned, in my opinion of, course, but certain looks like it in the further conversation. Informative as always."

[Fo the Communist]

Irons I know exactly what the LGA does and doesn't do. And it does not ban councils from using the word 'Dad'. Which was where I came in and where I will leave it.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Benrahma is now trying too hard.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Benrahma is now trying too hard.

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo I agreed with part of your orginal point initially, even before I saw that papers were saying patently false things. But your point included consistently downplaying the role of - the - membership association of local governments. Pretending it had no convert power or access to funding or service, which it details on its own site. If you honestly extrapolated the ease of getting in and out of it from one anecdotal experience that is just another kind of misinformation. Again part of the ""insidious misinformation"" that people use to make points. Your is maybe more subtle than outright lying but is that better or worse. On to the game."

[Fo the Communist]

"Irons - I was genuinely surprised the membership was so comprehensive. Happy to concede that. The overwhelming majority of councils clearly have the view that the merits of membership outweigh the disbenefits. Happy to concede that too. It is, after all, rather beside the point of my original post."

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo the Communist 7:23 Thu Oct 6 ""Looks like most local councils are currently happy with the service"" Again that is of course a falsely naive statement. You know full well that if something is the only game in town and includes 99.4% of your peers, there is a lot more than being happy that compels you to be part of that voice."

[Fo the Communist]

Irons. Looks like most local councils are currently happy with the service. I have worked for a council that left without any bother (though I think it has since re-joined in fairness).

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo the Communist 7:16 Thu Oct 6 ""Councils leave and join the LGA all the time depending on which way the political wind is blowing or on the whim of the prevailing administration."" Really? What does this mean? ""Our core membership comprises 331 of the 333 councils in England and includes district, county, metropolitan and unitary authorities along with London boroughs and the City of London Corporation. The 22 Welsh unitary councils are in membership via the Welsh Local Government Association."""

[Fo the Communist]

*leave it.

[Fo the Communist]

Irons. Councils leave and join the LGA all the time depending on which way the political wind is blowing or on the whim of the prevailing administration. Council's routinely make far more difficult choices than leaving what is essentially a professional body. I have no idea why the LGA produced this guide. I assume it was done at the request of its membership - a membership that is free to take the guide's advice or leave

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo the Communist 6:54 Thu Oct 6 I have been a very local journalist and sat in those meetings and been on the other side at a slightly higher level of government, deciding who gets the funding. You know is not an easy decision, your whole description of weighing pros and cons argues directly against your point. Come on. I bow to your knowledge of the specifics but your ""unlikely"" is hardly a firm point. Again what is the point of making the guide if it provides information that available elsewhere and has no weight whatosever?"

[twoleftfeet]

Stabbing in London you say? Those bloody white youths and their knife carrying has gone too far this time ! It’s no longer safe for black people in London! If only their was a white Mayor or local white MPs who could come out and say something.

[Fo the Communist]

Irons - posted that before I saw your clarification.

[Fo the Communist]

"Irons. I posted in response to this: ""Now we're not allowed to say 'mum' and 'dad'! Fury as councils are ordered to BAN 'offensive' traditional terms and replace them with woke phrases like 'birthing partner."" I posted because the above is a palpably false interpretation. My suspicion is that it is deliberately so in order to pursue a political agenda and, as such, is insidious. Whether or not it is easy decision for a council to leave the LGA is a subjective one. I would say, having worked in, around and with local government for decades (I haven't been a journo for a long time) that choice is indeed easy if the local authority administration feels the negatives or membership outweigh the benefits. Councils opt in and out of the LGA all the time as they change complexion and, in any case, the LGA is unlikely to ever to have a hand in a government funding settlement (which is the Holy Grail for any local authority) that is limited to its own membership."

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo I would apologise and correct myself, though I had not seen it yet. The Sun does use the word ""ban"" which is absolutely false in the context of this guide."

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo the Communist 5:49 Thu Oct 6 ""simple choice."" You have a practice of pretending to be very naive when it suites you point. Given your background, surely you would say that a decision that intertwines even tacit access to funding, political influence and public perception is not a simple one for a politician. It is part of the ""insidious misinformation"" to pretend that all the LGA (having read just a little bit, it is very similar to groups I knew) can do is issue guidance and that is that. The practices, good or bad, mentioned in the LGA Inclusive Language Guide are very much in the public consciousness. If a mayor out there wants to practice them, there are many resources for her/him/they to access. As a decent reporter, you may ask yourself, why does this body need to produce another guide? What else do the LSA then have to gain? There is a lot else at play that you are ignoring in being so reductive. There is nothing techincally false in what you say but there is not anything technically false in the articles I have seen about the guide. But both are misinformation to me, picking the parts that serve their argument. https://www.local.gov.uk/our-support/workforce-and-hr-support/equality-diversity-and-inclusion-workforce/lga-inclusive"

[Westside]

"Expat', 'second generation', 'economic migrant' and 'homeless' are also banned What term should they sue for the homeless? Outdoor lager enthusiasts?"

[goose]

"Kanye West will be fuming. lets be honest, despite their noble intentions the gesture has lost any kind of impact."