Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[rumford]

When kretinsky bough his shares in 2221 the club was valued at £550m. In 2022 Forbes valued the club at £700m. Yes its possible the price may have dropped this year. The big factor in these valuations is premiership status.

[goose]

i'd be shocked if his shares have gone up in value. the clubs finances won't look as good this year as they did last year. we've burned £180m on transfers. wages have gone up. revenue will likely go down due to lower league position and ECL vs Europe league money.

[rumford]

"Obviously no one know what around the corner particularly with us. I think you will find Krietinsky shares are already worth more and will probably increase again over time. A bit like Sullivans £50 m initial investment, now worth 6times as much."

[goose]

we shouldn't be spending £150m in a transfer window not matter what the situation. the fact we spent that just shows how bad we are at finding players. if DK has invested his money and is looking for a return - he must be fucking fuming. If he wants to make a profit then he would need to actively be finding a buyer for the club. people in his world dont spend that kind of money without an end game.

[Nagel]

"Willtell, the only other football club Kretinsky has invested in he's been their Chairman ever since, so that kinda blows that theory out the water. Given Sparta Prague pretty much went from the Real Madrid of the Czech Republic to its Atletico Madrid, maybe it's a good thing if he doesn't though. They won the league 15 times in the 20 years before he took over and just 4 times in the 20 years since."

[North Bank]

the straw 11:16 Tue May 16 because Sullivan is a fucking idiot

[rumford]

I tend to agree that Krietinsky is not that interested in a total buy out. Yes he bought £150 m worth of shares which is merely an investment. Yes and we spent that money on players in summer window. Without the Rice money we wouldn't be spending that sort of money again in the next window.

[Willtell]

I think that if Sullivan was selling up we would have heard something about it by now. Kretinsky has a habit of investing in companies and leaving the major shareholders to run it for him. I wouldn't be surprised for him to take control eventually but I really don't think that it's happening soon...

[PwoperNaughtyButNot]

Sullivan and the Golds don't want to sack Moyes on their dime. Once sold Krestinsky is left with that bill

[LJC]

Wasn't there a thread on this article yesterday?

[Takashi Miike]

"""It has been recognised, though, that there is not enough support or experience around Noble."" twelve years at man city, not enough experience ? just more disingenuous bullshit"

[JayeMPee]

"When is sullivan p#ssing off, thought we were rid of this germ yonks ago? And what the hell is the Czech doing, does he have any influence at all in the future of the club?"

[Takashi Miike]

*back them*

[Takashi Miike]

"all this shit can be done on the quiet, but the dwarf cսnt has to maintain the narrative that it's rob Newman's fault that the past eighteen months have been so shit so he gets another of his propagandists to write another unneeded article on the eve of a semi final. the little cսnt is despicable, the jock dinosaur is clearly staying and you cunts that back then deserve another ten years of this garbage"

[goose]

"Lets assume that article is true. Firsty, Victor Orta - fucking hell no. Secondly, ""West Ham, who are yet to decide whether to keep David Moyes as manager""............ what more do you need to see or need to know to make a decision?"

[the straw]

Why is Sullivan leaking this shit 2 days before the biggest game of the season. Twat.

[Willtell]

"Interesting article by Jacob Steinberg in Guardian today .... West Ham are set to appoint a director of football in an attempt to address misgivings over their recent transfer strategy. A recruitment process is under way and changes are expected at the club this summer. Potential candidates have been identified and include the former Liverpool sporting director Michael Edwards, Monaco's Paul Mitchell, Brentford's Lee Dykes and Atalanta's Lee Congerton. There have been discussions with Victor Orta, who recently parted company with Leeds, but the Spaniard is regarded as an unlikely appointment. Bryan Mbeumo reacts after giving Brentford the lead against West Ham Mbeumo and Wissa guide Brentford to victory against distracted West Ham Read more West Ham, who are yet to decide whether to keep David Moyes as manager, have endured a disappointing campaign despite spending close to £160m on players last summer. Control over signings was largely handed to Moyes. Sources have spoken of dissatisfaction within the hierarchy over the club's business. If Moyes stays it is anticipated his influence over transfer business would be reduced. Moyes would have to decide whether he is willing to work with a director of football. Moyes is close with Rob Newman, the head of recruitment. Questions are set to be raised over Newman's role. West Ham, six points above the bottom three, have been battling against relegation despite their outlay. It is felt that bringing in a director of football would help the sporting director, Mark Noble. The former captain was appointed in January and the board are impressed with how he has settled. It has been recognised, though, that there is not enough support or experience around Noble. West Ham want to bolster their scouting network and relieve the demands on Noble, who is expected to have a large say over the academy. West Ham had a director of football when Mario Husillos joined in 2018. Husillos was heavily associated with the then manager, Manuel Pellegrini, and left when the Chilean was fired in December 2019. The latest search for a director of football is being led by David Sullivan, West Ham's largest shareholder. Sullivan has reached out to intermediaries and remains the most influential figure at the club. The co-owner will take charge of finding a manager if Moyes leaves. Moyes's future could depend on whether West Ham win the Europa Conference League. They are 2-1 up before the second leg of their semi-final at AZ Alkmaar on Thursday. Moyes could earn himself another season if he brings West Ham their first major trophy since 1980. Winning the Conference League would also earn qualification into the Europa League. There is disquiet over how West Ham have fared in the league. They are not safe from relegation after losing to Brentford on Sunday and there have been complaints over the style. West Ham are monitoring Graham Potter, Brendan Rodgers and Celtic's Ange Postecoglou. There are indications that Paulo Fonseca will spend another season at Lille. At least one other candidate is lurking in the background. West Ham had hoped to kick on after finishing seventh last season. Moyes and Newman were handed significant funds and chased a number of targets but the spending has produced mixed results. The biggest disappointment has been the £35.5m Italy striker Gianluca Scamacca, from Sassuolo. Scamacca, who has struggled to settle, has three league goals and is out for the season with a knee injury."

[Manuel]

"My last post to you, can't be dealing with you, so crack on and have the last word."

[Stevethehammer]

"Everytime I post Manuel, you have something to say Someone else slags Moyes off and you keep quiet. You have made personal fucking digs at me in the past and called it all banter etc Having a thread on here about mental health etc is pointless when you have Manuel here"

[Manuel]

"Most of your posts sound like you are crying. Like the vast majority I have been a big critic of Moyes, so let's not start making shit up as that's poor form. Just I can post subjectively, something you are not capable of, the problem with that is your posts start to have no meaning or context, same as Sir Alf's for example, among others."

[Manuel]

"Don't be silly, Steve, you have been the biggest queen on here in recent months, and pretty much get everything wrong."

[Stevethehammer]

"Well I'm glad we are finally safe. Not that Manuel will have you believe, but 36 games into the season and it's official but £200 million for us to be in this position is still not good enough. Us keeping Moyes next season gives me the shivers, if it goes tits up like it has this season I hope we don't turn to someone like Fat Sam or Dean Smith and make a decision too late again. I think not winning the conference league would have a question on the motivation of Moyes and some of the players especially. I can't see many wanting to stick around to play under him, if we didn't have those European games the likes of Fornals and Lanzini would have about 2 appearances across the whole season. We need a manager not afraid of making big calls, not having too many favourites, Moyes has lived and died by the mantra of you don't run you don't play. We have plenty of players who are happy to run but give them a football and they are clueless"

[Texas Iron]

"Hoo-Fucking-Ray""¶"

[Texas Iron]

"Hi-Fucking Ray""¶ Moyes saved West Ham from Relegation""¶again""¶ What a fantastic job he's done""¶NOT""¶!!! A horrendous 18 month series of crap results and abject performances""¶ Not to mention poorly spending 200million""¶ Moyes is not the future""¶unless we want a repeat performance next season""¶ Moyes and his team have failed""¶OUT""¶! ! !"

[BRANDED]

"What I'd like to see is an ethos. With the Dave's it was stay in the prem, move to the OS, try to be consistently higher up the league and therefore be in Europe. In my humble opinion playing in Europe is very challenging for the league form if not used to it and not having a rotation plan that actually works. It also puts strain on the morale in tge camp. So. An ethos would be 1. Being good enough in the league to get into Europe 2. Once in Europe having the right squad and manager to do well in both league and Europe 3. Playing attractive football but having a plan b. 4. Having a set up that can cope with both player and management change. This is what Man City and Liverpool have had. I cant think of any other English teams that have managed it so it is clearly very hard."