Moyes Out ( Released )

[Keep dreaming]

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

[VickyPkVillageIdiot]

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[legrandefromage]

"What has anyone seen in Brendan Rodgers that makes them think he is just the mean for the job. It would a typically unimaginative Sullivan appointment though. Frank is an interesting one. Brentford are a very direct, long ball side who are typically happy to concede possession. All the things we hate about Moyes but without the obsessive caution and far better forwards to convert chances. Maybe, he could be more adaptable given greater resources."

[Rossal]

"Nagel 9:42 Wed May 10 Good post, I agree Silva wouldnt be in my top 5. Kompnay just signed a new deal, so think he is being loyal to Burnley and he'll be there next season. My choice would be Rodgers or Thomas Frank. If they fail then you can look at Carrick, Still or a european bloke. Guy i work with wants the Sporting Lisbon gaffa Ruben Amarin"

[Nagel]

"Not sure about Marco Silva. He seems to be one of them managers who gets really bad losing streaks and we all know that generally means they won't last too long. Reminds me of Pellegrini at Man City when it became known that Pep was taking over and he won only 5 games from his last 14 in charge, and then when he was with us and Fabianski got injured we went crashing down the table. With Silva, after a bright start at Watford, Everton came sniffing about for him and suddenly the team went on a nosedive, getting 5 points from 10 matches before he was sacked. Then at Everton he had one spell in his first season of 8 points from 14 games and the following season 5 points from 11, before he was sacked. That sort of form is understandable if the schedule gives you a hard run of fixtures, but he was losing at home to the likes of Sheffield Utd and Norwich. Then you have to look at what happened when he left Everton. Did his team carry on being shit? No, their next 3 games under Duncan Ferguson were against Chelsea (W), Man Utd (D) and Arsenal (D). In fact they went on an 11 match unbeaten run, losing only away to Man City. He's not on a great run right now at Fulham either. In the last 10 games he's picked up only 9 points, with those 3 wins being against some of the worst teams in the league: Everton, Leeds and Leicester. Personally I'd look at getting Rodgers, Carrick and Kompany over Silva, and that's only of those who have English managerial experience. I expect there's plenty of other better candidates than Silva in Europe."

[Stevethehammer]

"To be fair I don't think the board can be blamed for the failings this season on the pitch. They can be blamed for not sacking him early on though but we are were we are now, but I doubt anyone thought we would be in this position in the league at the start of the season, sure semi finals of the conference league was probably thought about but an outlay of 200 million to see us play the way we have this season just isn't good enough. Moyes made noises about needing a striker, left back, Midfielder etc etc he got everything he wanted. It wasn't Sullivan flirting with Lingard for 6 weeks, and it hasn't been Sullivan who has constantly picked an out of form Soucek when we have a similar midfielder who cost 12 million in the bench. Its not the board who bring on Danny Ings in place of Antonio when 18 Million outlay Cornet is back fit and more similar to Antonio's way of playing than Ings. For all their faults and fucking hell there are so many, the relegation battle this season is firmly at the door of Moyes, due to his reluctance to play the signings he signed off on, disregarding players and blaming everyone else but himself for some of the performances he has served up. He decided on a different way of playing and it hasn't worked. We are close to securing surivial I believe due to the players getting a grip and playing themselves into form, Moyes has stuck with the same shit all season, so I don't thank him for a turn around."

[RdUeSpSrEeLsLsed]

I guess he meant restart of the season But I guess you got him

[The Ghost of Sven]

"""He was completely unprepared and was at the WC until just before the season started and players being brought in ( 8 in total ) thru to Sept. "" Sir Alf This World Cup that was on before the start of the season .... who won that as must have been on holiday & missed it?"

[Eerie Descent]

"I wanted Silva when he went Everton, and thought they were mad to sack him and even wanted him then. Would be my first choice of all the realistic names mentioned."

[Romfordboy]

If the rumours of marco silva are to be believed I would be all over that

[Willtell]

I am heard the Gonzo podcast that Newman was Moyes choice and the board aren't happy with how the money was spent. When you think about Areola (loan and fees plus wages £40m) for a reserve that doesn't play. The board wanted Johnson from WBA on a free would have done as well and saved money. Cornet Ings and Scamacca cost £70m in fees that don't fit or get to play even when not injured. Apparently though. Newman and Moyes will be getting a DOF at the very least even if Moyes isn't sacked. If we win Europa Conference it will be difficult to justify sacking Moyes I imagine but he will be answerable to a DOF according to Gonzo

[Sir Alf]

Yeah I realised that WillTell :-) That's why last summers transfer business was in hindsight bonkers. Or at least it was disconnected from reality to buy more technical players who were more comfortable on the ball and thinking our manager would change everything he has ever done to get the best from them. Writing was in the walls early doors I guess where Moyes keep labouring the point about players taking time to settle or gel? He was completely unprepared and was at the WC until just before the season started and players being brought in ( 8 in total ) thru to Sept. It looks simply like Newman identified and got players that were more technical / comfortable on the ball but no idea what to do with them. He spent the rest of the season finding reasons and ways not to play them or using them in ways that totally undermined their confidence and the existing players who l looked confused about what it was we were trying to do. Incompetence or at best negligent from Moyes so that alone a case for dismissal

[Hammer and Pickle]

"If he gets in a decent manager, he's welcome to live with a mushroom and look like Rasputin."

[Willtell]

"I hope you realise I had my tongue firmly in cheek when I wrote that Sir Alf? Moyes lasted 10 months at Old Trafford and they had given him a 6 year contract apparently so would have wanted him to succeed""¶"

[Sir Alf]

"Willtell 10:28 Tue May 9 ""ùbelieve that this 60 year old coach, will be able to change tactics to a more attacking formation in line with being a top 6 club as he did years ago when given the chance at Man Utd.....""ù Yep, never going to happen. Tbh, can anyone cite an example of any manager or coach who has successfully changed their philosophy and tactics while at a club or even moving to another club to play a completely different way? The manager and his coaches would need to know and have experience ( playing or coaching ) in the different system. That means daily training drills to support the way of playing, fitness regimes, player development etc. Moyes doesn't know how to do it because he's never managed a team that plays that way for any length of time. In fact there is no one his coaching team, with arguably the exception of Warbarton, that has that experience and Warbarton sides weren't the best at it. It's cheaper, quicker and far easier to change the management and coaching team than replace or adapt players to a system that doesn't suit them. Logic and reasoning says he has to go before next season but we have an owner who suffers from ""Napoleon Syndrome""ù, cohabits with a tranny or at best a hooker and wears an outfit to make him look like Stalin."

[stubbo]

"Seems like the thing most likely to do for Moyes now is the way he spent the 200m and the lack of utilisation of those players. Rumours from board lackey Whetstone that the board don't want to give him or Newman any more money to spend themselves given the players bought weren't appropriate for the system played, as well.as.other rumours that a proper Director of Football is to be appointed. All this means Moyes would lose transfer autonomy, which has been a red line for him."

[BRANDED]

"when the ball is to be launched upfield directly I stopped there for two reasons 1. One of the biggest complaints about us in this non purple patch has been slow ponderous movement towards the opposition's goal giving the opposition opportunity to defend in numbers 2. We might occasionally launch the ball forward but we also pass it forward, both slowly and fast. Our issues this season were mostly not scoring enough or more precisely not scoring one more than the opposition and in our purple patch that was very rarely more than one goal more than the opponents and I recognise that some people find that a bit boring. It was fucking brilliant on Sunday evening."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Muggy Bonehead III 10:59 Tue May 9 Player insubordination - this is actually an interesting area worthy of serious comment because I feel it goes to the heart of this lengthy player adaptation issue. Fact is, Moyes is effectively issuing two sets of orders that can only be reconciled in one way: the individual player's physical strength and readiness to run like the clappers from box to box, all game, every game. And that includes centre backs. Another is reliance on a tall aerial player like Soucek or Fellani in midfield. Let me explain; Order 1: get nine men behind the ball when the opposition have it and stay in the drilled position until possession is regained, when the ball is to be launched upfield directly Order 2: attack in numbers as quickly as possible as soon as the ball is regained. Much attention is paid in training to set-pieces as a source of goals The real problem is modern-game players are simply not ready to play the Moyes way; they have been coached, from an early age, to specialise in a given defensive, midfield or attacking roles. The assumption of this system is the team acts as an integrated unit combining all elements of the game in every phase of the game, with vision, intelligence and technical skill replacing running and brute force. I call this the Cruyff School. Fornals, Scamacca, Paqueta and Emerson are typical Cruyff School. Therefore, with this set of players, and this manager, the two orders are hardly ever, or rather never, executed together. What we have are off-games, when players mostly execute Order 1, and on-games, when they successfully play Cruyff School largely in Order 2. It even happens in phases of the game these days, with us starting in Order 2, then falling back on Order 1 until we get a lucky break and then winning with Cruyff School Order 2. What we need is a manager with the balls to accept the players have adapted to the Premiership while the problem is asking them to follow Moyes's contradictory orders and his insistence on selecting sides to fall back on Order 1 for long stretches of the game."

[Nick QQQ]

"Don't get me wrong, of course i would love to win the ECL, trophy in Europe etc etc. But let's not kid ourselves, we haven't played anyone decent and until we get Fiorentina, still wont have. That and the fact that if we did win it, would support Moyesball, cement his legacy (and ego) as the way to continue forward is dangerous and from my perspective would mean another season like this one, chasing points against the lower teams etc etc. Oh and another year of flogging Antonio to death."

[diehardhammer]

Celtic boss getting linked today to replace Moyes in summer

[Dick Hanio]

"Under a top attacking minded manager we would have had an amazing season with our current squad of players. Best squad we have ever had. I've been a hammers fan for nearly 50 years. Moyers has poorly managed the squad by sticking with his favourites, falling out with players to the extent that when a player like Fornals for example gets the odd few minutes as a sub they are not fully up to speed. You only get that sharpness from regular game time. It's appalling management and clearly Moyes cares more about his own CV than the future of our club."

[BRANDED]

Ings settled in well with the team tho innit? #JustSaying

[VickyPkVillageIdiot]

"To be fair, if he wins us a trophy then he's earned another year."

[Lee Trundle]

"I doubt many other would be different, goose. It'll take a VERY brave person to bin him off this summer if we win it. I've noticed the press are all still behind him and we'd be mad to get rid of him, quoting how great we were 18 months ago."

[goose]

If we win the ECL then no way will Sullivan have the bollocks to make a change.

[Russ of the BML]

"Lee Trundle 12:59 Tue May 9 No, its not bollocks. Because after the liaison team they meet Moyes. That's when it all goes tits up."