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Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 11:28
by stubbo
https://www.whufc.com/news/graham-potte ... head-coach

​​​​​​In the past he's favoured a 3-4-3 formation...hard to see how we can do that currently with only 3 senior CBs, one of whom is injured. He's also played wingers (Solly March as an example) in the wing back roles.

Typically when a 3-4-3 gets announced on a match day the manager is immediately described as being too negative, too cautious etc. I guess it depends on the composition of the 4.

He's given young players chances...hopefully that continues at West Ham.

Welcome Graham.
 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 14:03
by stubbo
If you want to listen to Potter chat for an hour about his career post-Chelsea, there's a listen on this podcast here:


Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 14:01
by stubbo
Swiss. wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 13:52 Will becomed a West Ham legend just like Grant....errrr 

But seriously didn't he have Sterling playing as left wing back for Chelsea in some games. 
He did similar at Brighton with Solly March at wing back.

As I said in the opening post, 3-4-3 is assumed to either be 5-2-3, or 5-4-1 which is why it's assumed to be a defensive setup.

But if you then play a genuine wide player wide in the second line you're accused of being mental and trying to play wingers at wingback (traditionally fullbacks that like to get forward).

If he sticks to 3-4-3 could easily see his way of getting Kudus and Bowen on the side playing one of them at that wide midfield position in the 4.

No doubt we'll all scream blue murder if it happens. But if he sticks AWB or Coufal there he'll be a negative pricks playing too many defensive players.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:57
by El Scorchio
Swiss. wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 13:52 Will becomed a West Ham legend just like Grant....errrr 

But seriously didn't he have Sterling playing as left wing back for Chelsea in some games. 
 
 
This little prick probably kicked up such a fuss about not being in the team that he was forced to squeeze him in somewhere. Don't forget his hissy fit this season which ended up with him going to Arsenal to sit on their bench instead. Potter's situation he inherited at Chelsea was a terrible mess that just kept getting added to. It's taken a few managers a few years to start sorting it out and separating the wheat from the plentiful chaff that the idiot yank spunked hundreds of millions on. And still I reckon they'd be struggling mid table if they'd not landed Palmer who has been a game changer and saving grace for them.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:56
by violator
Maybe a punt on Lamptey, he's gotta be better than Vlad and AWB can push forward letting Kudus play up top.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:52
by Swiss.
Will becomed a West Ham legend just like Grant....errrr 

But seriously didn't he have Sterling playing as left wing back for Chelsea in some games. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:46
by Texas Iron
Potter…

Poor man’s Southgate…

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:27
by honky cat
I reckon the worlds nicest, most badly treated manager - lopetegui - leaked it himself to get a bigger payoff and buy Sandbanks off the redknapps.  Potter will be an improvement as he speaks english. Maybe he didn't take a job in the summer as he was still on the Chelsea payroll? Will just steady things, put his arm around paq, kudus and jean clair and maybe bring in a couple of loans? Ferguson?. If by some miracle we beat Villa and don't get Liverpool away next round, we might go on a cheeky cup run. But FFS how much longer is this taking. Only at west ham. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:13
by Steady
I think Potter will do a great job and be a good fit for us. That’s the kiss of death provided 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:11
by southbankbornnbred
Massive Attack" wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 13:04 Brady and Steidten haven't jumped the gun with trying to drive the narrative of getting Potter in with all their Media tidbits being released have they? 

I say that because yesterday morning Sullivan was at the Training Ground talking to Lopetegui and after it the status quo was kept with Lopetegui still in post taking Training (as he still is). I wonder if Sullivan has got the hump with it all and decides to pull the plug after all the media circus fall-out what with an important FA Cup fixture on Friday on the telly soon arriving? Someone has to take a Pre Match Press Conference tomorrow latest..
God I hope not!

It's right to sack Lopetegui (unfortunately, because he shouldn't have got the job in the first place). But he has acted with dignity when all of this shite has been leaked. He should at least be allowed to leave in a dignified manner. The mistake of appointing him was the board's, not his.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:04
by Massive Attack
Brady and Steidten haven't jumped the gun with trying to drive the narrative of getting Potter in with all their Media tidbits being released have they? 

I say that because yesterday morning Sullivan was at the Training Ground talking to Lopetegui and after it the status quo was kept with Lopetegui still in post taking Training (as he still is). I wonder if Sullivan has got the hump with it all and decides to pull the plug after all the media circus fall-out what with an important FA Cup fixture on Friday on the telly soon arriving? Someone has to take a Pre Match Press Conference tomorrow latest..

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:03
by lowlife
Potter worked with Dunk for a long time at Brighton. He’s not the quickest, I’m hoping that Potter can do the same with Kilman and that he doesn’t turn into another expensive signing that we lose lots of money on.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 13:01
by southbankbornnbred
Lee Trundle" wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 12:55 Kilman on a 7 year contract looks a dreadful buy now he's gone.

Let's hope Potter likes him.
The only way to make the Kilman transfer work now is to put a lot of pace around him - in all three other defensive positions (we're fine with AWB and OK with Emerson) and also ahead of him in central midfield (currently a big problem).

Kilman reads the game well and has decent positional sense, and he's a warrior. But he's painfully slow for the modern Premier League. He regularly gets burned over ten yards. He'll need others to be the legs around him.

It's not the player's fault, but spending £40m on him was fucking insane. If you could summarise Lope in one move, that would be it.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:55
by Lee Trundle
Kilman on a 7 year contract looks a dreadful buy now he's gone.

Let's hope Potter likes him.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:52
by southbankbornnbred
The biggest frustration in all of this is that either Potter, Carrick or Terzic could have got the job in the summer when it was blindingly obvious to anybody who knows football that Lopetegui was a bad fit for us. Let's assume it might have been Potter: he'd at least have been able to buy the players he wanted when we had a nice chequebook.

No Kilman for £40m. No Rodriguez etc. Some harder-working legs in midfield.

Now, with the "right" sort of manager in place, he'll spend the rest of 24/25 unpicking the mess created in just six months.

We all say it, I know, but it's just so typical of West Ham under these owners. This season has basically become a write-off.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:41
by southbankbornnbred
A decent appointment, and a better fit for this club than Lopetegui.

Personally, I would have preferred either Carrick or Terzic as realistic targets. But I'm not unhappy with Potter. Hope the fans get behind this fella and that he tears it up.

As somebody said down the thread, at least we - and the players - will actually understand what he's talking about while he explains why we shipped four more goals! 😉

On another note, Lopetegui has dealt with the farcical handling of his departure with a huge amount of dignity thus far. That speaks well of him (excuse the pun) and I hope he goes back to Spain and lands a decent role. He was always a strange choice for this club.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:41
by Massive Attack
Sanacs on tour" wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 12:35

I don't understand how the board will continuously back managers in the transfer market (we are decent spenders year on year), but wont pay for a manager, leaving us to always pick from who ever is available on a free!


 
Iiiin one! And it's the most crucial signing a Club can ever make. Our priorities have always been back to front and always counterproductive come the end of it all. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:35
by Sanacs on tour
If Potter is the right man for the job, why didn't we get in in over the summer initially?

I don't understand how the board will continuously back managers in the transfer market (we are decent spenders year on year), but wont pay for a manager, leaving us to always pick from who ever is available on a free!

That said, hoping Potter can get us playing up to the levels we all know this group of players can be at!  

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:22
by Massive Attack
Fucking hell, is that you Steidten/Brady? He's not even in the fucking job yet! 😂

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:19
by Metroplex
Good luck Potter, oh  and get rid of those two hapless Czechs and the Bubble please.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:09
by Maverick180180
As long as he plays players in their correct positions and stops giving game time to absolute has beens like Coufal, Rodriguez and Cresswell, we should see an instant improvement 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 12:02
by Takashi Miike
lowlife wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 11:57 The Chelsea set up he was working under was mental though, at least we’ve got a normal bunch of owners…
😂

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 11:57
by lowlife
The Chelsea set up he was working under was mental though, at least we’ve got a normal bunch of owners…

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 11:57
by wils
There is one area where we will see an enormous improvement right from the first match in charge. Whatever the scoreline on Friday those watching on TV will come away saying, hand on heart, for the first time in over six months they understood what the manager was saying in his interview.

Other than that, I am expecting more of the same. Bottom half finish. Just hoping I am wrong about that part.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 11:56
by OGS
Let's hope he's learned from his Chelsea tenure, where his principal failing was his commitment to possession football, while not scoring because he didn't play his main striker (Aubameyang) and couldn't stop the defence letting in soft goals. 

It's all very well dominating between the boxes, but games are won on how well you exploit situations in both boxes. 

His Chelsea tenure sounds a bit Pottetegui, so at least there's continuity there and he can build on what JL has done 😏

 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 11:50
by twoleftfeet
Mad Dog" wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 11:41 Ill get in before COYI does.

He failed at chelsea snd hes's failing here. He shit and should be sacked

good now I can say I was the first to call it of and when it goes wrong
And I want to be the first to say that when we are lifting the champions league trophy in 2027 that I told everyone that Potter was a great fit for us and that Tomas Soucek was the inspirational captain that we needed and putting him up front was a Potter master stroke.