The West Ham Fan Forum | More like the terraces than the family stand!
https://forum.westhamonline.co.uk/
Maverick180180 wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:56 There are some absolute retards on this thread
it’s a Potter out thread and there’s people complaining about commenting on wanting Potter out
If you don’t agree don’t read this thread
Maverick180180 wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 09:55Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:54 I can't understand this blind faith that some have over the bloke and think everything will suddenly click into place when there's been nothing to suggest that's ever likely to happen.
His supporters will say he needs a transfer window to bring in his own players. He's had a transfer window already, and brought in one of his old players. How did that work out? Why can't we judge him on that and have concerns about what players he's going to buy in the summer?
Why can't we judge him on the tactics he's trying to employ now? Are we not going to play this way next season, or something?
Why can't we judge him on his man management skill now? We've got players fighting each other, and breaking down on the pitch. Why are they so sure that's not going to happen next season if we don't start off well?The give him a transfer window makes no sense to me
When Zola was in charge I could see what he was trying to do, he was trying to get us to play football the way that he was taught playing in brilliant teams, slick, fast often one touch football that was never gonna work here cos we didn’t have the players that were anywhere near the level required to play that way so all we’d up doing is giving the ball away, but at least with him I could of seen an argument for there could be a vast improvement with different players.
All I see Potter doing is trying to keep hold of possession by passing it around our own half. I don’t see how better players are going to create more goals if that’s all we’re going to do for the majority of the match.
As you say, it’s complete blind faith
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:54 I can't understand this blind faith that some have over the bloke and think everything will suddenly click into place when there's been nothing to suggest that's ever likely to happen.
His supporters will say he needs a transfer window to bring in his own players. He's had a transfer window already, and brought in one of his old players. How did that work out? Why can't we judge him on that and have concerns about what players he's going to buy in the summer?
Why can't we judge him on the tactics he's trying to employ now? Are we not going to play this way next season, or something?
Why can't we judge him on his man management skill now? We've got players fighting each other, and breaking down on the pitch. Why are they so sure that's not going to happen next season if we don't start off well?
Dick Shaftsbury" wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:52Maverick180180 wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:47Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:26What are you on about? The "don't judge Potter brigade"? Who the fuck is that? Every supporter is judging Potter and the judgements, at this stage, aren't good. But some supporters are a bit more pragmatic and are prepared to give him a summer window and a pre-season. What's wrong with that view? Or is it a case of it just not being the same as yours?
And you state "they actually get off on losing". You actually believe a section of our support likes to lose? Seriously? You are starting to sound a bit mental.
And I also note your comment "And when it does all go to shit, every fan that backed him will shirk all responsibility and lay the whole thing at Sullivan’s door". I mean, yes, as I have explained numerous times over the last few weeks, the mess we are in is down to Sullivan. As I said, Potter is a symptom, Sullivan is the disease. But the main point is, you talk about supporters that backed / still back Potter as some sort of scum or fool. Bottom line, they are supporters and that's what they do. If you don't want to support then that's your choice, but some supporters still want to.
As I said, you are starting to sound a bit mental. Droning on day after day making the same point. Yes, we know Potter has been disappointing. But you don't have to keep trying to win some sort of competition to prove you said it first that he wasn't the right man. And trying to sway every poster to your way of thinking. Even resorting to abusing people who don't agree with you.
Just have a day off. We know what you think. Stop trying to prove you are right.
And before you judge me, I was in the give him a window and pre-season camp, but I am afraid that the last three performances and results have now swayed me to move him on. I have just not seen enough to convince me. It's a shame as I wanted it to work. But I just can no longer see it. Especially with it looking like we won't have loads to spend in the summer.Loser mentalityHe's right though, you're fucking boring Mav.
Maverick180180 wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:47Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:26Maverick180180 wrote: ↑06 May 2025, 14:42 The don’t judge Potter brigade actually get off on losing
They think backing your club when it sells its home and proceeds to relegate itself shows what true fans they are.
Cos no other fans would put up with that
They fail to see it’s not a good thing and certainly not a badge of honour, just a badge that says you’re a fucking loserWhat are you on about? The "don't judge Potter brigade"? Who the fuck is that? Every supporter is judging Potter and the judgements, at this stage, aren't good. But some supporters are a bit more pragmatic and are prepared to give him a summer window and a pre-season. What's wrong with that view? Or is it a case of it just not being the same as yours?
And you state "they actually get off on losing". You actually believe a section of our support likes to lose? Seriously? You are starting to sound a bit mental.
And I also note your comment "And when it does all go to shit, every fan that backed him will shirk all responsibility and lay the whole thing at Sullivan’s door". I mean, yes, as I have explained numerous times over the last few weeks, the mess we are in is down to Sullivan. As I said, Potter is a symptom, Sullivan is the disease. But the main point is, you talk about supporters that backed / still back Potter as some sort of scum or fool. Bottom line, they are supporters and that's what they do. If you don't want to support then that's your choice, but some supporters still want to.
As I said, you are starting to sound a bit mental. Droning on day after day making the same point. Yes, we know Potter has been disappointing. But you don't have to keep trying to win some sort of competition to prove you said it first that he wasn't the right man. And trying to sway every poster to your way of thinking. Even resorting to abusing people who don't agree with you.
Just have a day off. We know what you think. Stop trying to prove you are right.
And before you judge me, I was in the give him a window and pre-season camp, but I am afraid that the last three performances and results have now swayed me to move him on. I have just not seen enough to convince me. It's a shame as I wanted it to work. But I just can no longer see it. Especially with it looking like we won't have loads to spend in the summer.Loser mentality
Russ of the BML" wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:26Maverick180180 wrote: ↑06 May 2025, 14:42 The don’t judge Potter brigade actually get off on losing
They think backing your club when it sells its home and proceeds to relegate itself shows what true fans they are.
Cos no other fans would put up with that
They fail to see it’s not a good thing and certainly not a badge of honour, just a badge that says you’re a fucking loserWhat are you on about? The "don't judge Potter brigade"? Who the fuck is that? Every supporter is judging Potter and the judgements, at this stage, aren't good. But some supporters are a bit more pragmatic and are prepared to give him a summer window and a pre-season. What's wrong with that view? Or is it a case of it just not being the same as yours?
And you state "they actually get off on losing". You actually believe a section of our support likes to lose? Seriously? You are starting to sound a bit mental.
And I also note your comment "And when it does all go to shit, every fan that backed him will shirk all responsibility and lay the whole thing at Sullivan’s door". I mean, yes, as I have explained numerous times over the last few weeks, the mess we are in is down to Sullivan. As I said, Potter is a symptom, Sullivan is the disease. But the main point is, you talk about supporters that backed / still back Potter as some sort of scum or fool. Bottom line, they are supporters and that's what they do. If you don't want to support then that's your choice, but some supporters still want to.
As I said, you are starting to sound a bit mental. Droning on day after day making the same point. Yes, we know Potter has been disappointing. But you don't have to keep trying to win some sort of competition to prove you said it first that he wasn't the right man. And trying to sway every poster to your way of thinking. Even resorting to abusing people who don't agree with you.
Just have a day off. We know what you think. Stop trying to prove you are right.
And before you judge me, I was in the give him a window and pre-season camp, but I am afraid that the last three performances and results have now swayed me to move him on. I have just not seen enough to convince me. It's a shame as I wanted it to work. But I just can no longer see it. Especially with it looking like we won't have loads to spend in the summer.
MassiveSullivan and the Slag...
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 08:24 Players fighting amongst each other?
Hold on a minute, I thought he's doctor or something in LEADERSHIP?
Maverick180180 wrote: ↑06 May 2025, 14:42 The don’t judge Potter brigade actually get off on losing
They think backing your club when it sells its home and proceeds to relegate itself shows what true fans they are.
Cos no other fans would put up with that
They fail to see it’s not a good thing and certainly not a badge of honour, just a badge that says you’re a fucking loser
Texas Iron" wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 01:35 every improvement in final league position is worth an extra 3 MillionQuid..
that should be enough motivation to win a few games for the technocratic air headed Potter…
Or is he too far gone for that…
Betcha Sullivan wants the extra cash…
scott_d wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 07:49 Not sure the 3m matters to him and in reality I don't care much about it either - not disputing the fact the obviously it would come in handy.
For me it's the embarrassment of being the shittest team not to get relegated. To finish 17th this season is a massive failure for both Lopetegui for how we played in the first half of the season, Potter who has failed to improve our results (quite the opposite), and the man at the top who appointed both managers.
I don't want to take too much responsibility from the manager and players, but for me it does make me think about the conditions they are working under as to whether this is a real deep problem with the ownership and how the club is run from the top.
But looking at Potter more closely, I honestly thought he might be the one to give the youth players a chance, especially after a promising start and the noises he made. But he is just as bad as everyone else we've had probably since Redknapp. Our season is over, our players are massively under performing, there are players in the squad who could not give a shit and won't even be here next year, and yet this is now 3 games in a row where he's favouring players like Ings, Coufal, Rodriquez over giving the young players a chance. Perfect opportunity missed once again.