The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
This was what you posted: 'European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.' Rowing back on it after you've been caught out doesn't change that.
And your post about European brands is nonsense. On one hand you concede they will be more competitive (Nike/Addidas are priced out) and on the other hand they are more expensive.
And ALL branded sports shoes are luxury items. It's like trying to claim a £500 cricket bat is a necessity.
The words you are looking for are, 'Oh yes, I was wrong'. But by all means keep digging and squirming, you silly sod.
The original post you responded to had this in it: "Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there.".
No rowing back, less than 1% of such a huge market is nothing. Lets not play silly games.
The European brand trainers (not many of them either) were more expensive than Nike back in Feb this year. Tariffs means those Nikes are/will be even more expensive so if you're buying trainers then it will cost you more than it did in Feb either way.
Luxury trainers are the likes of Jimmy Choo, Prada, Gucci.............. if you think Nike is a luxury brand you're a mile off.
I'm 100% right on this.
Trainers in the US will become more expensive for consumers.
Now you can pop online and buy yourself a pair of San Antonio sneekers.
Changes story from one post to the next re totally irrelavant figure on US market (we are talking about future competitiveness, not current market share)- 'Now let's not play silly games'
European shoes were more expensive, so Chinese shoes getting more expensive means you will be paying more either way. ??? So, you are conflating European and US made shoes getting more competitive with consumers have to pay more. A different issue and not one that I ever disputed - though I could. Typical Goose deflection when in the wrong.
Luxury trainers are... I don't give a shit about your fashion sensibilities - all branded trainers are luxury items. Nobody's lifestyle will change as a result of having pay a few bucks more for their dim-witted choice of branding. Trainers are not meat or potatoes.
'I'm 100% right' - said Goose on every thread ever, especially when 100% wrong.
Future competitiveness of a manufacturing base and brands that are non-existent? They don’t even round up to half a % and you think people are going to buy San Antonio sneakers when the price of their Nikes go up?
everybody wears trainers and they tend to need replacing pretty often, especially kids.
You now have a choice of buying another pair of Nike which have gone up $80 to $100, or you can buy a pair of Diadora which are $90. You’re either paying $10 more or $20 more - take your pick.
or you can have some San Antonio sneakers and pay thousands for the therapy after you get bullied.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
hahaha one line of New Balance trainers? i'll give you a grand for any of the others that you've actually heard of, never mind seen in a shop or bought. I reckon you'd deffo wear those San Antonio sneekers.
Redwing aren't sportswear but i'd say they are the only credible brand on there, otherwise nobody is buying those awful things.
i pointed out it was <1% further down.
European brands were more expensive pre-tariffs, they will still be more expensive if you now have to trade up to them because you cannot afford Nike/Adidas.
btw Nike/Adidas are not luxury sportswear, they're middle market.
Nike, Adidas, Converse, Sketchers, Puma all by and large manufacture in Asia. That's not changing.
This was what you posted: 'European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.' Rowing back on it after you've been caught out doesn't change that.
And your post about European brands is nonsense. On one hand you concede they will be more competitive (Nike/Addidas are priced out) and on the other hand they are more expensive.
And ALL branded sports shoes are luxury items. It's like trying to claim a £500 cricket bat is a necessity.
The words you are looking for are, 'Oh yes, I was wrong'. But by all means keep digging and squirming, you silly sod.
The original post you responded to had this in it: "Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there.".
No rowing back, less than 1% of such a huge market is nothing. Lets not play silly games.
The European brand trainers (not many of them either) were more expensive than Nike back in Feb this year. Tariffs means those Nikes are/will be even more expensive so if you're buying trainers then it will cost you more than it did in Feb either way.
Luxury trainers are the likes of Jimmy Choo, Prada, Gucci.............. if you think Nike is a luxury brand you're a mile off.
I'm 100% right on this.
Trainers in the US will become more expensive for consumers.
Now you can pop online and buy yourself a pair of San Antonio sneekers.
Changes story from one post to the next re totally irrelavant figure on US market (we are talking about future competitiveness, not current market share)- 'Now let's not play silly games'
European shoes were more expensive, so Chinese shoes getting more expensive means you will be paying more either way. ??? So, you are conflating European and US made shoes getting more competitive with consumers have to pay more. A different issue and not one that I ever disputed - though I could. Typical Goose deflection when in the wrong.
Luxury trainers are... I don't give a shit about your fashion sensibilities - all branded trainers are luxury items. Nobody's lifestyle will change as a result of having pay a few bucks more for their dim-witted choice of branding. Trainers are not meat or potatoes.
'I'm 100% right' - said Goose on every thread ever, especially when 100% wrong.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
I see you are being deliberately obtuse and selective again.
If there are not presently US manufacturers of athletics shoes, the tariffs make it more likely that there can be. By the way, here's a list of 20 US producers of sports that you claim don't exist. www.allamericanmade.com/shoes-made-in-usa/
European shoes will become relatively cheaper to Chinese ones as you obviously know but are obfuscating.
Finally, as I pointed out, nobody gives a fuck if overpriced luxury goods get more expensive.
hahaha one line of New Balance trainers? i'll give you a grand for any of the others that you've actually heard of, never mind seen in a shop or bought. I reckon you'd deffo wear those San Antonio sneekers.
Redwing aren't sportswear but i'd say they are the only credible brand on there, otherwise nobody is buying those awful things.
i pointed out it was <1% further down.
European brands were more expensive pre-tariffs, they will still be more expensive if you now have to trade up to them because you cannot afford Nike/Adidas.
btw Nike/Adidas are not luxury sportswear, they're middle market.
Nike, Adidas, Converse, Sketchers, Puma all by and large manufacture in Asia. That's not changing.
This was what you posted: 'European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.' Rowing back on it after you've been caught out doesn't change that.
And your post about European brands is nonsense. On one hand you concede they will be more competitive (Nike/Addidas are priced out) and on the other hand they are more expensive.
And ALL branded sports shoes are luxury items. It's like trying to claim a £500 cricket bat is a necessity.
The words you are looking for are, 'Oh yes, I was wrong'. But by all means keep digging and squirming, you silly sod.
The original post you responded to had this in it: "Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there.".
No rowing back, less than 1% of such a huge market is nothing. Lets not play silly games.
The European brand trainers (not many of them either) were more expensive than Nike back in Feb this year. Tariffs means those Nikes are/will be even more expensive so if you're buying trainers then it will cost you more than it did in Feb either way.
Luxury trainers are the likes of Jimmy Choo, Prada, Gucci.............. if you think Nike is a luxury brand you're a mile off.
I'm 100% right on this.
Trainers in the US will become more expensive for consumers.
Now you can pop online and buy yourself a pair of San Antonio sneekers.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Which ones are you talking about? European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.
So you’re asking the US consumer to buy more expensive European manufactured brands or the more expensive Nike/Adidas.
whichever way, your trainers are now more expensive.
I see you are being deliberately obtuse and selective again.
If there are not presently US manufacturers of athletics shoes, the tariffs make it more likely that there can be. By the way, here's a list of 20 US producers of sports that you claim don't exist. www.allamericanmade.com/shoes-made-in-usa/
European shoes will become relatively cheaper to Chinese ones as you obviously know but are obfuscating.
Finally, as I pointed out, nobody gives a fuck if overpriced luxury goods get more expensive.
hahaha one line of New Balance trainers? i'll give you a grand for any of the others that you've actually heard of, never mind seen in a shop or bought. I reckon you'd deffo wear those San Antonio sneekers.
Redwing aren't sportswear but i'd say they are the only credible brand on there, otherwise nobody is buying those awful things.
i pointed out it was <1% further down.
European brands were more expensive pre-tariffs, they will still be more expensive if you now have to trade up to them because you cannot afford Nike/Adidas.
btw Nike/Adidas are not luxury sportswear, they're middle market.
Nike, Adidas, Converse, Sketchers, Puma all by and large manufacture in Asia. That's not changing.
This was what you posted: 'European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.' Rowing back on it after you've been caught out doesn't change that.
And your post about European brands is nonsense. On one hand you concede they will be more competitive (Nike/Addidas are priced out) and on the other hand they are more expensive.
And ALL branded sports shoes are luxury items. It's like trying to claim a £500 cricket bat is a necessity.
The words you are looking for are, 'Oh yes, I was wrong'. But by all means keep digging and squirming, you silly sod.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 16:22
by Lee Trundle
Only took Two Tier a year to achieve this.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 15:48
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Well now is the chance for US manufacturers and those from perhaps the UK and other low-tariff places to sell some shoes that don't rely on slave labour
Which ones are you talking about? European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.
So you’re asking the US consumer to buy more expensive European manufactured brands or the more expensive Nike/Adidas.
whichever way, your trainers are now more expensive.
I see you are being deliberately obtuse and selective again.
If there are not presently US manufacturers of athletics shoes, the tariffs make it more likely that there can be. By the way, here's a list of 20 US producers of sports that you claim don't exist. www.allamericanmade.com/shoes-made-in-usa/
European shoes will become relatively cheaper to Chinese ones as you obviously know but are obfuscating.
Finally, as I pointed out, nobody gives a fuck if overpriced luxury goods get more expensive.
hahaha one line of New Balance trainers? i'll give you a grand for any of the others that you've actually heard of, never mind seen in a shop or bought. I reckon you'd deffo wear those San Antonio sneekers.
Redwing aren't sportswear but i'd say they are the only credible brand on there, otherwise nobody is buying those awful things.
i pointed out it was <1% further down.
European brands were more expensive pre-tariffs, they will still be more expensive if you now have to trade up to them because you cannot afford Nike/Adidas.
btw Nike/Adidas are not luxury sportswear, they're middle market.
Nike, Adidas, Converse, Sketchers, Puma all by and large manufacture in Asia. That's not changing.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Nike & Adidas have both said they’re putting up prices because of tariffs.
Less than 1% of the trainers sold in the USA are manufactured there. There are no US alternatives. Nobody of any size or scale is manufacturing trainers in the USA.
Well now is the chance for US manufacturers and those from perhaps the UK and other low-tariff places to sell some shoes that don't rely on slave labour
Which ones are you talking about? European manufactured brands are already more expensive and US ones don’t exist.
So you’re asking the US consumer to buy more expensive European manufactured brands or the more expensive Nike/Adidas.
whichever way, your trainers are now more expensive.
I see you are being deliberately obtuse and selective again.
If there are not presently US manufacturers of athletics shoes, the tariffs make it more likely that there can be. By the way, here's a list of 20 US producers of sports and other shoes that you claim don't exist. www.allamericanmade.com/shoes-made-in-usa/
European shoes will become relatively cheaper with reference to Chinese ones as you obviously know but are obfuscating.
Finally, as I pointed out, nobody really gives a fuck if overpriced luxury goods get more expensive.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 08:59
by Lee Trundle
BRANDED wrote: ↑30 Jun 2025, 08:28Professor Sir Chris Whitty was responsible for government guidance that was believed to have triggered the spread of Covid into care homes, The Telegraph can disclose.The Chief Medical Officer has told the Covid Inquiry that he was “not closely involved” in decisions behind a scheme to discharge thousands of hospital patients into care homes at the start of the pandemic.However, government emails obtained by The Telegraph show that Sir Chris’s office signed off guidance for care homes in England, advising them that they could take patients from hospital who had not even been tested.Emails also reveal that Helen Whately, the former social care minister, warned colleagues that sending people with Covid into care homes “surely materially increases” the risks to residents.However, she signed the guidance off anyway after officials said that one of Sir Chris’s two deputies was “content with the advice”.The care homes guidance, published on April 2 2020, is considered one of the worst mistakes of the pandemic, and has been branded “irrational” by the High Court.Sir Chris and Ms Whately will face scrutiny over their part in the guidance during the Covid Inquiry, which opens its examination of care homes on Monday.Telegraph
I get the impression most of those who were hoodwinked by COVID are too embarrassed to talk about it now, BRANDED.
You still have idiots like joyo beating the facemask drum, but most people just want to brush it under the carpet and hope it all goes away.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 08:28
by BRANDED
Professor Sir Chris Whitty was responsible for government guidance that was believed to have triggered the spread of Covid into care homes, The Telegraph can disclose.The Chief Medical Officer has told the Covid Inquiry that he was “not closely involved” in decisions behind a scheme to discharge thousands of hospital patients into care homes at the start of the pandemic.However, government emails obtained by The Telegraph show that Sir Chris’s office signed off guidance for care homes in England, advising them that they could take patients from hospital who had not even been tested.Emails also reveal that Helen Whately, the former social care minister, warned colleagues that sending people with Covid into care homes “surely materially increases” the risks to residents.However, she signed the guidance off anyway after officials said that one of Sir Chris’s two deputies was “content with the advice”.The care homes guidance, published on April 2 2020, is considered one of the worst mistakes of the pandemic, and has been branded “irrational” by the High Court.Sir Chris and Ms Whately will face scrutiny over their part in the guidance during the Covid Inquiry, which opens its examination of care homes on Monday.Telegraph
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 23:45
by XKhammer
Thought Trump going to sort out Ukrainian war in first day in office instead he's ignoring the biggest despot on planet and somehow blaming Zelensky
Trump done a good job with Iran but he's a disaster with Ukraine
Mind you if Harris was in charge Iran would now have a nuke
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
So that's Pakistan, Israel and now the Congo that have called for Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize. Contrary to the nonsense rhetoric of the clueless left that tried hard down the years to paint him out to be a vile warmongering dangerous shitcunt.
Trump sorts Ukraine and Russias shit out, he'll piss the award and be revered for decades to come innthe history books.
I cant quite fathom whether you are on a wind up or not? Hopefully you are and very funny too!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
XKhammer wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025, 23:06
Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?
So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????
Except Eyeties as all are soap dodgers
I won’t call every ginger cyclists a nonce just because you are.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
XKhammer wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025, 23:06
Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?
So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????
Except Eyeties as all are soap dodgers
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 12:50
by OK_Guy
One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025, 23:56
A "bird" assaulting pregnant women and abusing little kids is a "little fracas" to you? Says more about you than anyone else.
I see Mandy Clare was a recent local Labour representative until she was hounded out for her views on women (women don't have penis, men do)... so hardly Reform by choice.
no I won't be voting Labour, Reform or any other shit Political-party
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 12:35
by Massive Attack
So that's Pakistan, Israel and now the Congo that have called for Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize. Contrary to the nonsense rhetoric of the clueless left that tried hard down the years to paint him out to be a vile warmongering dangerous shitcunt.
Trump sorts Ukraine and Russias shit out, he'll piss the award and be revered for decades to come innthe history books.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 08:37
by only1billybonds
They has obviously forgotten about the Labour MP up in Runcorn who actually battered a bloke in the street in full public view. Going by OSD's standards, this means that all Labour mp's are violent thugs or have I missed something.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 08:08
by goose
XKhammer wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025, 23:06
Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?
So you’re saying you can’t judge a large group of people based on the actions of a tiny minority????
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 07:30
by Eerie Decent
What exactly happened to them to make you so scared?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 23:56
by One Sunny Day
A "bird" assaulting pregnant women and abusing little kids is a "little fracas" to you? Says more about you than anyone else.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 23:47
by Eerie Decent
One Sunny Day" wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025, 21:58
Lovely bunch these Reform politicians. Make us all feel safe.
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A bird having a little fracas in a park makes you feel unsafe?
No wonder your arse absolutely fell out when Wong just stuck it right on you, you absolute minge.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 23:06
by XKhammer
Reform has 840 councillors you can't really
label them all as dangerous because of this woman
How many labour and tories have been nicked over the years?
