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NFL (since 2016)
"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
- El Scorchio
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Oh, and for the same reasons the Giants really should pick a QB regardless of what the Browns do, unless there are extremely strong doubts over anyone not called Darnold."
- El Scorchio
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"The Browns can't afford to miss on ANOTHER quarterback and settle for the second or third best in the draft at 4 when they can have their choice at 1, even if a great running back is sitting there. Barkley may be the best player but QB is a far more important position. Get it right and you're set for 15 years. Get it wrong and you're the Cleveland Browns... They should go with a quarterback. Looks likely Darnold or Allen if all the gossip is to be believed. Whoever it is can sit for a year or until this season is a write off while Taylor starts."
- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Barkley should go no1, especially when there's three or four decent qbs and the Browns have the fourth pick. knowing the way they draft, Barkley will drop to your lot and you'll at last have a great back again :.("
Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Giants will take Barkley if the Browns don't. And will only take Darnold, again if the Browns don't. Management and ownership feels Eli needs more weapons and a little bit more protection. Then maybe.? Just maybe they could become in contention in the NFC East."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Four days to go before the 2018 draft, and still some big uncertainties about what some of the teams with key picks will do. Looks increasingly likely that the Browns will take Sam Darnold at #1. The Giants at #2 is still up in the air. They know who they want, but are keeping their cards close to their chest. the best player on the board will be the running back Saquon Barkley. But Eli won't last forever, and it's rare that the Giants will have a top-two pick. So don't be surprised to see them draft Eli's successor QB. If that's the case, you're looking at Josh Rosen. If the opt to replace JPP with an edge rusher, it'll be Bradley Chubb. My guess is Rosen will go #2 and learn from Eli for a year. Which puts the QB-desperate Jets on the board at #3 with only three of the ""big five"" QBs left: Mayfield, Allen and Jackson. They'll take Baker Mayfield. It's looking nailed on if Darnold and Rosen are off the board. Three QBs in the top three picks is unusual, but all three teams need LT solutions at the position. Browns will then likely take the best player, Barkley, off the board at #4. He could be a huge hit if he makes the transition."
- El Scorchio
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Does that mean the tickets for the game at the cheese room stadium will go on sale soon then?
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"Crystal - Rosen is definitely the most pro-ready QB in the draft. He might even be the best, although Darnold and Mayfield have got some huge skills. Allen is a slightly bigger risk, but could really pay off for a team with a good QB coach and some patience. Huge arm - off the charts, really. The guy can hurl the ball, at speed, pretty much the length of the field. But he has accuracy issues compared with the other three. Most high-quality QBs enter the NFL with a college pass completion rate of around 62-65%. The top-class QBs tend to enter the NFL with a pass completion rate of around 65-68%. Allen's pass completion rate, even at college, is just 58%. Which is not great. Of course, some QBs enter the NFL with that sort of ratio and, because they learn how to select their passes far better, they improve their completion rate. But I'd be a little concerned about Allen's PCR, given that he's been running a very specific (non-NFL) offense at college, which for most QBs should help with better pass completions. If you watch video of Allen's workouts and game time, you can see he has enormous raw talent. But you can also see his accuracy issues. Compare him to Baker Mayfield, for example, who has a 68% PCR and off-the-chart accuracy. Looks like he could thread the eye of a needle with the ball. Rosen and Darnold not far behind, either: and they have slightly better pass selection. To me, Allen's still the fourth best QB in the draft. At the moment."
- Takashi Miike
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"hopefully we get Vita Vea. watched quite a few of the stuff Smith's done since arriving in Washington, he's a class act. just wish he was a bit younger"
- Takashi Miike
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"true, Allen will be a project but i think he's the one for me. also seen Mayfield on a few different things, has great accuracy and is very confident but does lack a bit of size"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"I don't watch any college football but been listening to some podcasts and Josh Allen has some big upside but sounds like he is nowhere near being ready to run an offence. Sounds like Rosen is the most pro-ready QB, but the biggest knock on him is that he is ""too smart"" and continually needs to be told why he is doing certain things, which seems to of put off some of the more poorly coached teams (browns, Jets etc) seems like Darnold is the favourite to be the first guy picked but he's not the finished product yet, had a lot of turnovers in his last year at college."
- Takashi Miike
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"i watched a few of the combine videos and the one that stood out to me was Josh Allen, thats who id be signing if given a chance"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Will be interesting to see how these sort of things effect Josh Rosen who is looking like a top 3 pick in the draft, he is also very vocal in his left wing agenda and seems like he is actually a smart enough guy to maybe make some headway. But again it will be his level of play that will determine if he stays in the NFL not him speaking out. if you're talented enough you'll get a job, just look at some of the criminals tat still get work in the NFL."
- Lee Trundle
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Kaepernick has just TWEETED a quote saying ""I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag"". You've got to be nuts to take him on."
Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Pretty simple really, you own a Football Franchise you want your players to attract fans and interest in your Franchise. All this protesting the flag in the name of BLM is turning fans away, costing the owner money. Who would want to employ someone that's gonna turn fans away? Football is a business, I know I wouldn't hire Kaepernick or Eric Reid."
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"""I totally understand where they are coming from by supporting the Black Lives Matter campaign and making a statement about the treatment of black people in the States. Totally support him on principle."" A white man in 7 times more likely to be killed by a black man in the US than vice versa. But yeah, only BLM. Black lives only matter in the less than 1% of cases where a white man is doing the killing. This BLM movement is dehumanising and divisive exactly because it ignores the fact that all lives matter equally."
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"Kaepernick brings a whole load of baggage with him including his viciously racist girlfriend who will accuse his employer of being a slave master. If he was a great quarterback, none of that will matter, but he isn't. He is a second string qb at best and who wants that colossal distraction for a second string qb? Every time he doesn't play instead of the more talented white qb in the team it will be because of racism. Teams need him like they need their bollocks in a vice. Of course, according to the (so-called) liberal media in the US, his lack of a huge contract is solely down to racism, which I guess they're right about, except it is his racism, not the owners'."
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"the bird is a black lives matter activist who called the ravens owner a slave master, and ray lewis his head slave. whether she's a dj or not, im not interested, but silly bollocks colin brought up great by 'white' people needed someone like that round him like a hole in the head"
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"Not sure I agree with the idea that his girlfriend was an issue re: the NFL effectively ignoring him. I don't know much about her, but she's a radio host in NYC isn't she? How did that affect his career - unless she was distracting him from training (which is possible!). The fact is, there was no (real or perceived) movement against him - by the NFL, fans or other teams (who refuse to take him) - until he started with his protest. Nobody can be definitive, of course, but the circumstantial evidence points to that. I guess that's what he's now challenging legally. But you're right to say that he's not even that good. He had one magical year, and has played like a back-up ever since. So, let's face it. we're talking about a QB2 at best for any team. The guy clearly had some talent, and at 30 he should still be on a franchise roster. But he's no Joe Namath. ;-)"
- Takashi Miike
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
"totally disagree, he threw his career away because of who he was throwing his dick up. that he was too thick to realise he was being used as a puppet is his problem, he's also not that great a quarterback so his options for a starting role are limited at best, especially when the cսnt thinks he's worth a whole lot more than teams are willing to pay"
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"I'm generally not in favour of politicising sport - but I do think Kaepernick has been badly treated. Likewise Reid, his ex-team mate. Two decent players who should still be active in the NFL. That said, these things are often a matter of fine margins - and you could argue that Kaepernick (and, to a lesser extent, Reid) did need to calm down the politicking a little and get on with their primary role - playing American football. I totally understand where they are coming from by supporting the Black Lives Matter campaign and making a statement about the treatment of black people in the States. Totally support him on principle. But. The big mistake he made was to keep pushing his protest and - rightly or wrongly - presenting the idea that he was a man distracted by politics and social issues to the detriment of his team and team-mates, when he should always primarily be an athlete and a team-mate. I don't to this day know whether he actually did push it too far - or whether this was simply an impression that had been created. But I do know that it had become something of a distraction for the NFL, some of his team-mates and a large group of 49ers fans. The fact is, Kaepernick was there to play football. Having a political and social opinion, and articulating it, is not a problem. The problem comes when people (rightly or wrongly) think that is your motivation. I feel for him, because I support him taking a stance. But I can't support the way he took that stance over a prolonged period. He gave many people the impression he was entrenched in activism, primarily motivated by it, and was no longer primarily a footballer. It was an impression, but in the States that counts for a lot. On a basic note, he could have given a straightforward interview, when the dust was beginning to settle, and said: 'Look, I will continue to support the BLM and protest movement. I care about these issues. Know that. But I'm a football player and I have a team and team-mates. I have a job to do. Know that, too.' And I honestly think people would have backed him - and he'd still be playing."
- Lee Trundle
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Re: 2016 NFL Season
Kaepernick have just been told to do one by the Seahawks because he wouldn't confirm his stance on the whole national anthem thing. What an idiot to prefer being a twitter martyr over a professional sportsman earning millions.