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"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"
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"marty feldman 4:52 That is the only other thing that makes sense. Done deal at an agreed price on an agreed date, but I find it very hard to imagine Kretinsky will be unable to have any influence if ownership is imminently transferring, so Sullivan doesn't leave him with a dead duck."
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"13 Brentford Rd 4:50 I bet he is. Who can he get now of any calibre that's actually going to want to come, considering it's quite likely despite their best effort it's going to be relegation-fire sale-rebuild. That immediately takes away any 'name' manager. Maybe two months ago when there was time, but not now. The only trump card we have is the Euro campaign. Maybe just maybe someone would take us on for the glamour of leading is to what should be a fairly gettable bit of silverware despite league woes but is it worth it to maybe be stuck in the championship? Who can he get to do a 'rescue' that isn't going to expect a contract of longer than 12 games? That pool is very small. He can't just go the whole hog and employ a championship manager as that's just admitting defeat and then even if you escape, you're lumbered with them. There are really very few suitable candidates who would be willing to come. That's all his fault for leaving it too long to do anything."
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"That data comment is so funny and so strange in so many ways. I can see his excel sheet now (maybe it's what Nolan produces on his IPAD). 5 rows with data. runs backwards #times, passes sideways, sits back behind the ball, 6ft2+ etc etc. The worst thing about the comment was the bloke was stripped and ready to come on and the fact that he seems to be relying on data from training rather than what he sees every day. I actually think there is a motivation problem with Scamacca, can't guess why?"
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Its been obvious for months that Sullivan has already got his money for this club . Bilic and pellegreeni were sacked after 19 matches yet the coward is still here 26 games in . Amid rumours of players demanding they sack him . He's punishing the fans for the Burnley protests the Greenway walk and other things like that .
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"It's also stunning that the board think moyes would be the person to lead us out of the championship. Most of the squad will go, leaving us with a lot of the kids who have been constantly blanked by moyes. How is that old dour scotcher going to inspire a group he's never had any time for? The whole club is a circus."
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My sources inform me a board meeting is convened for tomorrow in which the performance of the team and the manager's future will be discussed. It is expected the manager will be given more time to improve performances. #Depressing
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"Even Sullivan can't be out of ideas, El. At the very least just get someone in short term, almost anyone would be an improvement seeing as Moyes has won about 2 league games all year. Promise them a nice bonus and longer contract if they are a success. West Ham should be an easy sell in any scenario. Strwie, not been to the bowl for months so seeing the lack of intensity and Moyes inability and refusal to change our approach and personnel from the off and then from the subs bench when we needed a goal, watching Soucek attempting to play the no 10: role whilst Ings was completely isolated brought home just how much he has lost the plot. Then seeing Scamacca stripped off heading down the tunnel and Cornet coming on for Ings instead was plain ridiculous."
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"Presumably ""data dave"" can't pick soucek ever again after seeing his match stats yesterday?"
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"Always thought the best way to get match fit was to play games, bloody Moyes an£ his data crap, get the lad on and let him get up to speed playing."
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"Nah, I really don;t think Sullivan is doing it to prove a point. He's not THAT stupid. It would be complete pyrrhic victory which will cost him millions and millions of pounds both in the value of the club which he won't be able to sell, and the huge investment in playing staff- selling lots for cut prices and having to buy at least 10-15 new players. Would he do that just to prove a point? No way. It's because either he simply doesn't know what to do as an alternative to Moyes at this point after sitting on his hands until it's too late, or he's guaranteed an out in about 10 days time, which seems sort of unlikely given that's so imminent, as there have been zero substantial rumblings about it. He's just as out of ideas as the manager and probably shitting himself but doesn't know what to do."
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"why can't you believe it, Rd son? It's been going on a very long time, so i'm not sure i understand the surprise."
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"Moyes is full of shit too. Scamacca was stripped off and then headed down the tunnel. Fucking ""data"" clown, bet Sullivan swallowed that and thinks Moyes is a genius. Only data should have been, do we need a goal and is Scamacca injury free and able to run about for 20 mins."
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"Beyond a joke now. I still can't believe what I witnessed from Moyes yesterday, he has completely lost the plot and the players too it seems. Sullivan is now only not sacking him because it would prove that his delusional and misguided backing of Moyes has been wrong and the fans were right. Only at West Ham. Step right up..."
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"The 2 week break coming up is the perfect time to get rid of the cսnt and bring in Carrick. I'm sure he would jump at the chance to leave Boro and try and keep us up. It would definitely help Rice, a player I'm sure Rice has aspired to be like. Failing Carrick, I would offer Bielsa a big contract to come in and try and keep us up, if we go down, he would look to the youth and build a team for the next 2-3 seasons. Some good attacking expansive football and a manager who shows passion and commitment rather than staring down people who have an opinion on the shit they pay to watch week in week out."
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"Going down with a whimper I don't know how 60,000 people can watch it in almost total silence. The Burnley protest seems such a long time ago now sadly the days of a hard to please east end crowd are long gone."
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"You at least got the feeling Allardyce knew what he was doing, his players knew what THEY were doing, and he commanded their confidence and respect even if we didn't much care for the football, especially after he'd got us promoted and stable. You don't get the same feeling about Moyes at all, since it started to go sour."
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It's absolutely fucking shameful that this imbecile is still in a job . Roeder and grant were poor but they wasn't cowards like this Muppet is . I detested allardyces football but hes in retrospect light years ahead of Moyes . There's no way this side with these players would be in this state under him .
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"This squad is going to be DECIMATED if/when we go down as well. Most of them will want out. It'll be a complete rebuild. I reckon we'll be lucky to end up with much more of the current lot than: Fabianski Johnson Cresswell Coufal (maybe) Ogbonna Downes Soucek (maybe) Coventry Benrahma Some of the others are possibly championship level, but in no way will they stick around (Antonio, Cornet, Lanzini, Kehrer) They might be able to convince a couple to stay for one season, but this is an absolute destruction of the club. TBH we'll be lucky to get a squad together so quickly that can get us straight back up with so many inevitable ins and outs. All the more baffling that Sullivan must realise how expensive and damaging to his investment this is going to be yet he does nothing to try and correct our downward spiral. He MUST be off in nine days. It's the only explanation. (Even though I really can't see it) But even if so, to do the decent thing and hand over the reigns now, so the new majority shareholder can take the necessary action."
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"This cսnt is taking us down. I can't believe the stupidity of this board. They've backed this cսnt up. I mean at least Grant had an excuse with a shit squad. I'm too angry and depressed to give a fuck anymore. Lats hope this shit shower of ownership fuck off and we can rebuild for the better with a young creative manager., When I see the likes of De Zerbi, Frank and Emery and see what we've got I wanna cry."
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"Yup, all the fight has been sucked out of the fans by the manager and the way he's got us playing. Everyone round me is basically resigned to us being relegated."
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"We're fucking cursed, nothing ever goes right for us and we're sleepwalking into the championship and not a fucking word from our fucking owners concerning our perilous position. To top it all off the grinning Gibbon Lineker is back on the fucking air. Slits wrist*"
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It all feels a bit stale. players and fans are bored Trouble is we are not in mid table and on the beach.
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"Bernie 12:48 Ings was never in the fucking box or an advanced position to receive the ball from Benrahma while he was carrying it forward and trying to beat two men by himself. It makes Benrahma look bad because he's always so isolated and has to either take on 1-2 men every time, try a risky pass, pass it backwards and lost momentum or try and play tricks with it until support arrives. But again I don;t blame Ings particularly for that. He was having to try and keep up, making 40 yard runs from the centre circle every time which simply isn't his game. He's not that sort of player. Poor cսnt looked like he was running in treacle. If you're going to use Ings, you need to play a more pressure game in and around the oppo box rather than breaking from your own half all the time. The manager is incapable of putting together a game plan to use the players we've got and play to any of their strengths. Hence the desperation move of sticking the fastest bloke at centre forward, who painfully obviously isn't a centre forward and cant time runs, and just hoofing it over the top for him to run after. Shambolic."
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"Yup- yesterday was a low. Embarrassing use of the bench. I get that he was worried about Paqueta being sent off but it was not helpful for the game- particularly not using the opportunity to bolster our attack for the last 15 mins in a must win game at home against turgid, nasty timewasting opposition (they started this in the 13th minute before they even scored) BTW Paqueta did return to the bench a few minutes after walking down the tunnel. Laughable to just stick the fast bloke up front and punt it over the top for him to chase time and again as our grand plan to score the winning goal. Embarrassing tactics straight out of the under 10 coaching manual. No concerted pressure in the last 10-15 mins. Nothing. By the way we were trying this earlier. Poor Ings having to try and play that role when the guy just isn't quick and it's not his game. Could have swapped Lanzini in for Soucek for a bit of creativity or Downes for some , a 30 million striker on the bench all game- give the cսnt 10 minutes FFS even if his 'data' isn't where he'd like it to be. Well done publicly calling your expensive striker a lazy cսnt by the way.... The again what's the point of putting a player like Scamacca on if your plan is to play kick and run rather than applying pressure to the opposing box? I just can't believe from watching the last 15 mins that this was a team desperate for points. Didn't seem like it at all. Thoroughly depressing. How Sullivan can't see that we are going down with this man in charge, I do not know. Where the fuck are the points going to come from? Also, Kehrer is absolutely shocking. Caught out of position or easily beaten time after time after time. How is this guy a German international? We are in real trouble at right back. Coufal is the only competent one at the club. Only bright spots for me Bowen, Benrahma and Paqueta. Benny loses the ball a bit, but that's a result of him trying to take risks with the ball to put us in a good position, or having to take multiple people on as he never has support or a player to aim at. He actually tries to make things happen. A good few times especially in the first half he broke with the ball and there was NO ONE getting up with him aside from maybe Bowen right on the other flank. Any other team would have had 3-4 players busting a gut to get in the box to provide him with options. We just don;t get forward with any urgency as a team. Pathetic. I just don't understand how Sullivan can sit and watch this and think anything other than relegation is overwhelmingly likely unless he does something."
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"Ings did appear to have a poor game yesterday, but he needs service, Soucek behind him was a total passenger in possession, and Benrahma couldn't work out a way to link up with his forward cause he's so thick."
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