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[stubbo]

If you've got any (useful) feedback about the new site, feature requests or any issues spotted, reply to this message and we'll investigate!

[stubbo-admin]

No worries. If I remember rightly IMGUR images get automatically recognised so you can skip the image button process and just paste the IMGUR address link to the image in the thread and it will convert to display as an image.

[Hammer and Pickle]

OK thanks - I’ll go with IMGUR

[stubbo-admin]

Help me understand what you mean by single suggested link.

There's a couple of ways to post an image:

1. Add as a link...do this by getting the URL (web address) for the image and using the image button in the editor. Best for images that aren't yours and are on the web.

2. As an attachment...do this with your own images by choosing "add files" from the 'attachments' tab at the bottom of the message posting window.  The image needs to be reduced in size to 500k filesize or less...best when it's your own images and you can resize it.

NB. If it's your own images, but not in the web but you can't resize it, the best bet is to get an account with IMGUR, upload your image there, then use the link you can get from it and follow step one above.

Hope that helps, but those are the two ways to do it and they each cover slightly different scenarios.  If the question meant something else let me know.
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[Hammer and Pickle]

Could we have a single suggested link for posting images  please? I apologise if this has already been done.

[stubbo-admin]

Slight grumble!

May have been mentioned before but im not going through pages and pages, so apologies if it has been mentioned!

When choosing an icon for posting a new thread, it's very small so trying to choose one is hard and on the phone next to impossible, some also say what they are when you hover over them which is a useful addition but seems it's only those recently added that have this feature.

Any chance the icons can be made bigger and what they are when you hover over them especially on the mobile version.

Thanks

I can see what we can do....the trade off is space take up. You can 'pinch-zoom' on mobile (2-fingers moving apart from one another on screen) to zoom in and look at the icons bigger, then reverse to zoom out again, as a way to see the icons bigger when selecting.

We can certainly add the descriptions...that's just a case of taking the time to go through each one and type a description in against them. 

There's a couple extras I've thought we could do with too:

- something pertaining to 'history'
- something 'legal'
- Pablo Fornals icon, given he remains a popular ex player
- improved 'Starmer' icon

Will try and look at this along with her autofocus query sometime this week.

[dm]

I guess it’s handy to be able to lock a thread to save the mods doing it if it’s a duplicate thread of some breaking news or similar, but otherwise it’s the actions of a pussy to lock one’s own thread. If you started it you need to own whatever comes of it!

That is a very good point indeed.  I realise now that my idea wasn’t such a great one after all. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Re. Thread owner locking.

It is a permission we could enabled. We haven't as it wasn't on the old platform, but we could do it

What I would say though is is it up to the original thread owner to decide when a discussion topic is 'over'? An example could be long running threads like COVID, Movies, What are you listening too, etc.

The thread owner may start the discussion, but they don't really decide when the topic is 'done'. The community kind of decides that at the point they stop discussing it would be my view.

Would "Conditional Locking" be an option?

By that I mean a thread owner has to give a reason why he/she is locking the thread, such as:

1. It's a duplicate,
2. Wrong Forum,
3. It's no longer relevant,
4. I don't actually respect any of those who have replied,
5. Someone used some nasty words and I'm a complete snowflake.

Personally, I'd leave as is; most people, I believe, have the ability to simply ignore posts or threads as they see fit.

[Sydney_Iron]

Slight grumble!

May have been mentioned before but im not going through pages and pages, so apologies if it has been mentioned!

When choosing an icon for posting a new thread, it's very small so trying to choose one is hard and on the phone next to impossible, some also say what they are when you hover over them which is a useful addition but seems it's only those recently added that have this feature.

Any chance the icons can be made bigger and what they are when you hover over them especially on the mobile version.

Thanks

[stubbo-admin]

Oooooooh! I did not know that. I have the brain of a turnip. Thank you.  

So does that mean we're ok to persevere a little longer with the terrible new WHOMail? SWTOC

No! Change it. Now!

Ha. Would that I could. 

[Nurse Ratched]

Oooooooh! I did not know that. I have the brain of a turnip. Thank you.  

So does that mean we're ok to persevere a little longer with the terrible new WHOMail? SWTOC

No! Change it. Now!

[El Scorchio]

I guess it’s handy to be able to lock a thread to save the mods doing it if it’s a duplicate thread of some breaking news or similar, but otherwise it’s the actions of a pussy to lock one’s own thread. If you started it you need to own whatever comes of it!

[stubbo-admin]

Oooooooh! I did not know that. I have the brain of a turnip. Thank you.  

So does that mean we're ok to persevere a little longer with the terrible new WHOMail? SWTOC

[Hammer and Pickle]

Being the last poster on one’s own thread is a bit of a bummer. Locking one must be a total humiliation.

[collyrob]

Agree. I think it’s bollocks if a poster doesn’t like the responses they’re getting they can just lock a thread.

[Nurse Ratched]

Oooooooh! I did not know that. I have the brain of a turnip. Thank you.  

[stubbo-admin]

As much as I like the new forum, I'm afraid I still hate the new WHOmail system. It's a mess.  Someone just messaged me and I tried to respond to them but I think my reply is stuck in my 'outbox'. Same thing happened when I tried to message someone when the new site first came into being. I don't understand why an 'outbox' is necessary. I know you didn't design it that way and it came with the 'template' for want of a different word. 

I might set up a Gmail address for PMs on WHO.

Meanwhile, I hope the poster who messaged me sees this and realises I didn't choose to ignore it.

It shows in the Outbox if the other person hasn't read it yet. Means you can still edit/delete before they read it. 

 

So it's not stuck...just not been read yet.

[stubbo-admin]

Re. Thread owner locking.

It is a permission we could enabled. We haven't as it wasn't on the old platform, but we could do it

What I would say though is is it up to the original thread owner to decide when a discussion topic is 'over'? An example could be long running threads like COVID, Movies, What are you listening too, etc.

The thread owner may start the discussion, but they don't really decide when the topic is 'done'. The community kind of decides that at the point they stop discussing it would be my view.

[Nurse Ratched]

As much as I like the new forum, I'm afraid I still hate the new WHOmail system. It's a mess.  Someone just messaged me and I tried to respond to them but I think my reply is stuck in my 'outbox'. Same thing happened when I tried to message someone when the new site first came into being. I don't understand why an 'outbox' is necessary. I know you didn't design it that way and it came with the 'template' for want of a different word. 

I might set up a Gmail address for PMs on WHO.

Meanwhile, I hope the poster who messaged me sees this and realises I didn't choose to ignore it.

[dm]

Is there an option on this new website for the author of a thread to lock it?
I did have a look but I couldn’t see one. Or I may have simply overlooked it.
if there isn’t, then that would be my suggestion.  Maybe give the author of a thread, the ability to close or lock it. Or maybe block individuals from posting on it. 
apologies if this has previously been covered on this thread.

[stubbo-admin]

It may just be me and my browser, but when I create a post (reply or new thread), the display leaps to the bottom of the page and the cursor is not active in the message/text box until I scroll up and manually click on an empty space in the box.

Almost always catches me out as I tend to look at the keyboard when typing and have to re-type it all again

I'll see if I can make the text box itself get autofocus on load. not sure what's causing the jump to the bottom...maybe one of the page elements at the bottom of the screen is getting focus. Will see what can do.

[Mike Oxsaw]

It may just be me and my browser, but when I create a post (reply or new thread), the display leaps to the bottom of the page and the cursor is not active in the message/text box until I scroll up and manually click on an empty space in the box.

Almost always catches me out as I tend to look at the keyboard when typing and have to re-type it all again

[stubbo-admin]

Wils is the main stats man, so I'll let him post up the traffic and post volume numbers, which will include non-logged in users/lurkers and volume of posts and threads.

Since we launched on this site there's been 445 logged in users. Of those, 318 have logged in during October.

In the last 7 days there have been 49 Active Topics (Topics with new posts) on the main forum.

[collyrob]

Has there been an increase in traffic since the move or what does the DATA look like. I check in now and again but feels like there’s fuck all happening on here.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

I know I've mentioned it before and I understand the reasons you gave for disagreeing with my suggestion.

However, I honestly think that, given the reasons you gave, we'd be better off without the WHO News panel at all.

It consists almost entirely of Hammers News items and basically he's a prolific and spammy, click-bait cսnt whose blatant profiteering and lack of any actual insight is obvious to all. His lurid headlines lead to rehashed press articles of no substance whatsoever. I actually object to this site unintentionally helping this prick out. Also, the attempt that site makes to get hold of all your cookies is close to, if not actually illegal. You have to be very careful not to give it permissions - I think they are legally obliged to default to essential cookies only, you're supposed to opt in, not out.

Rant over.

Better?

Much better, thanks. I've been away for a week or I'd have thanked you sooner!!!!

[Mike Oxsaw]

New site is looking good. You've done a great job 

A few things I will say is these Google ad popups are a bit annoying can't you use banner ads in the sidebar instead of the header and footer sections? 


 

Thanks for the feedback, It's all very useful.

Re the ads. The side bar ads might actually generate more. My view was the pop ups on the top/bottom were less intrusive than side bars so I went with those. If general opinion is that adverts in the side bar were less annoying I can switch to those on the desktop version at least. I think it might be a big ugly though? Happy to hear what the consensus is though.

This is the only site that I allow ads on - but they are testing my endurance - if they were static I could live with it, but the dynamic moving ones are a fucking irritating distraction. I may have to look into creating a virtual display and sending them to that.