Southampton vs West Ham | Boxing Day 2024 | Match Thread

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Odds: 
West Ham: 13/10
Draw: 11/4
Southampton: 9/4

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[Hammer and Pickle]

I’m going with both

I think that was an attempt at an entire sentence. Now why don’t you have a cup of tea and maybe a biscuit if you can handle the complexity of the task?

Fullkrug did well to hold off his marker to flick the ball into the path of Bowen running in from a deeper position to score: exactly the holding work a number 9 is supposed to do.

That one landed then

Yes, I’ve yet to recover from being so genuinely frowned upon on account of my lack of effort in the 1980s

[Joe C]

Hahaha do you understand what “holding the ball up” means?
either you didn’t see the game or you have no idea.

id bet money it’s the second one.

I’m going with both

I think that was an attempt at an entire sentence. Now why don’t you have a cup of tea and maybe a biscuit if you can handle the complexity of the task?

Fullkrug did well to hold off his marker to flick the ball into the path of Bowen running in from a deeper position to score: exactly the holding work a number 9 is supposed to do.

That one landed then

[only1billybonds]

Proof positive that you know next to fuck all.
Do you really think that lack of effort wasn't frowned upon back in the 80's when there were next to no foreigners playing here?

Like I said, stick to knocking up plates of slop in the kitchen.

[goose]

H&P yet again proving he has no understanding of the game, or appreciation of what it means to support West Ham.

imagine my shock.

[Mike Oxsaw]

No crime in expecting people to do their best in whatever walk of life they operate.

For professional footballers,100% commitment is a fundamental requirement of being part of the first team on the pitch, regardless of an individual player's technical ability.

[Hammer and Pickle]

What, the “genuine fanbase” that seems to believe it has the right to expect “100% effort” of players whose performance basic minimum is of a quality beyond your wildest imagination? What kind of criteria is that anyway? Their effort is measured every second they are on the pitch from every possible angle and performance factor. What you want to do is get together and slag off some young foreigner whose football abilities transcend your entire awareness. You’re just the dregs of football culture and nothing more. And you certainly get the kind of club owner you deserve in Sullivan.

[only1billybonds]

Your attitude to the fanbase really does say a lot about you, you are clearly not 'one of us'. And by that I mean that you have no affinity with genuine supporters.

[Massive Attack]

Lock the thread now.

[Mad Ferret]

Lock the thread now.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Like you do, you braindead slug.

[only1billybonds]

You really should stick to posting pics of the slop you knock up in your kitchen. You clearly have no idea what it is to be a fan of a football club.

[Hammer and Pickle]

That's the whole point you dozy cսnt, there is NO excuse for lack of effort.

The whole point, you dozy cսnt, is not a single one of those players gives a toss about whether you are happy with their effort or not. And why should they?

[only1billybonds]

That's the whole point you dozy cսnt, there is NO excuse for lack of effort.

[Hammer and Pickle]

And if the expected level of effort is not there, any kind of consideration apart from a load of abuse is considered “making excuses”.

How about starting from yourself as a fan when it comes to what you expect. Just paying to show up is enough you reckon? Well you get what you’re worth.

[Massive Attack]

Yep, 100% agree.
And this is not only the most important to me, it's the easiest part of the game, which to me says that anything less that 100% suggests it's an attitude issue rather than physical.
With the time and resources available to all professional footballers these days, there is absolutely no excuse for not being able to give 100% effort for 90 minutes.
They have all the time in the world to train and bring their fitness to the levels required to be able to commit to 90 minutes once a week.
Failure to give 100% is not acceptable.







 

Who are we to judge, and therefore expect, this so-called “100% performance”? You have absolutely no idea what their training and lifestyle regimes are like and you’d better accept what levels of performance they’re prepared to offer out there on the pitch in the set up the manager and coaches have determined. But you have a small-club bust-a-lung mentality and will hurl abuse at players from your seat then wonder why they don’t respect you with “100% performance”.

Absolutely pitiful.

Who are we to judge?  We are the match going punters who pay money to watch the team.  We are on a football forum which is full of judgement and opinion.  If you don't like hearing what people have to say, what they want to see and what they expect from the team, then you're in the wrong place.

 

 

Captain Cook is probably better off talking drunk ramblings on here..

https://masterchef.com/

[Mike Oxsaw]

 

He is a very decent player who has now realized he’s in a crap setup, has the hump and probably wants out. 

you put a diamond inside a turd and you won’t see it sparkle 

 

Oh please, STOP making excuses for these highly paid pro's, pride alone should be enough for them to do their best and he won't get a move playing like this. In short you post is very weak and pretty pathetic and would wager you were one of the many daft posters that were making umpteen excuses for Paqueta months back too.
 

That amounts to nothing but a giant fish-dinner epaulette about the modern player and what he earns in the modern game. Why don’t you follow a team where money isn’t a serious factor? How about Gillingham FC - their 13th in League 2. Or do you take some kind of perverse satisfaction in harping on about how much they earn whenever their performance-level drops to mere average mortal level?

FFS, money doesn’t equal performance and to expect it does is just puerile!

 

 

..."their 13th in League 2"...

Their 13th what? Mars Bar? Shopping trip to Bluewater? English lesson?

Muppet.

[only1billybonds]

No one is talking about 'performance' the level of effort is what's at question here. 
Your "who are we" comment is so typical of a person who has only ever been to one game in his entire life. When it come to players trying, real fans have every right to ask questions if it's felt that certain individuals are not putting 100% effort In to a game.

[scott_d]

Manny is absolutely correct in the sense that the minimum requirement is 100% effort from players.



 

Yep, 100% agree.
And this is not only the most important to me, it's the easiest part of the game, which to me says that anything less that 100% suggests it's an attitude issue rather than physical.
With the time and resources available to all professional footballers these days, there is absolutely no excuse for not being able to give 100% effort for 90 minutes.
They have all the time in the world to train and bring their fitness to the levels required to be able to commit to 90 minutes once a week.
Failure to give 100% is not acceptable.





 

Who are we to judge, and therefore expect, this so-called “100% performance”? You have absolutely no idea what their training and lifestyle regimes are like and you’d better accept what levels of performance they’re prepared to offer out there on the pitch in the set up the manager and coaches have determined. But you have a small-club bust-a-lung mentality and will hurl abuse at players from your seat then wonder why they don’t respect you with “100% performance”.

Absolutely pitiful.

Who are we to judge?  We are the match going punters who pay money to watch the team.  We are on a football forum which is full of judgement and opinion.  If you don't like hearing what people have to say, what they want to see and what they expect from the team, then you're in the wrong place.

I'm talking about effort here, not ability.  Tracking back, closing down, putting pressure on.  I'm talking about the difference between walking back into position vs running back into position between phases of play.  I'm not expecting them to run around like headless chickens for 90 minutes, I'm just expecting a certain level of effort.

Fuck me, since when has that become a small-club bust-a-lung mentality?

[Hammer and Pickle]

Manny is absolutely correct in the sense that the minimum requirement is 100% effort from players.


 

Yep, 100% agree.
And this is not only the most important to me, it's the easiest part of the game, which to me says that anything less that 100% suggests it's an attitude issue rather than physical.
With the time and resources available to all professional footballers these days, there is absolutely no excuse for not being able to give 100% effort for 90 minutes.
They have all the time in the world to train and bring their fitness to the levels required to be able to commit to 90 minutes once a week.
Failure to give 100% is not acceptable.




 

Who are we to judge, and therefore expect, this so-called “100% performance”? You have absolutely no idea what their training and lifestyle regimes are like and you’d better accept what levels of performance they’re prepared to offer out there on the pitch in the set up the manager and coaches have determined. But you have a small-club bust-a-lung mentality and will hurl abuse at players from your seat then wonder why they don’t respect you with “100% performance”.

Absolutely pitiful.

[scott_d]

Manny is absolutely correct in the sense that the minimum requirement is 100% effort from players.

 

Yep, 100% agree.
And this is not only the most important to me, it's the easiest part of the game, which to me says that anything less that 100% suggests it's an attitude issue rather than physical.
With the time and resources available to all professional footballers these days, there is absolutely no excuse for not being able to give 100% effort for 90 minutes.
They have all the time in the world to train and bring their fitness to the levels required to be able to commit to 90 minutes once a week.
Failure to give 100% is not acceptable.



 

[only1billybonds]

Manny is absolutely correct in the sense that the minimum requirement is 100% effort from players.
There are only 11 people can play in that side at any one time, they are ridiculously paid for doing something that 100's of 1000's of people would love to do just once. Skill levels and winning games are a different conversation but on the subject of trying, then anything less than all out effort is unacceptable.


Massive.

Bear in mind that Fourpence is actually a Charlton Athletic fan originally, that may be a link to Gillinghamgate.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Where the fuck did Gillingham FC come from?!

There you go, Captain Cook

https://maps.app.goo.gl/CqcYVsCceNajZ1Uq6?g_st=ic

[Massive Attack]

Where the fuck did Gillingham FC come from?!

[Hammer and Pickle]

Gone right off him this season. Attitude has stunk the place out. 

 

He is a very decent player who has now realized he’s in a crap setup, has the hump and probably wants out. 

you put a diamond inside a turd and you won’t see it sparkle 

 

Oh please, STOP making excuses for these highly paid pro's, pride alone should be enough for them to do their best and he won't get a move playing like this. In short you post is very weak and pretty pathetic and would wager you were one of the many daft posters that were making umpteen excuses for Paqueta months back too.

That amounts to nothing but a giant fish-dinner epaulette about the modern player and what he earns in the modern game. Why don’t you follow a team where money isn’t a serious factor? How about Gillingham FC - their 13th in League 2. Or do you take some kind of perverse satisfaction in harping on about how much they earn whenever their performance-level drops to mere average mortal level?

FFS, money doesn’t equal performance and to expect it does is just puerile!

[Manuel]

 Kudus is a waste of space too, 

Gone right off him this season. Attitude has stunk the place out. 

 

He is a very decent player who has now realized he’s in a crap setup, has the hump and probably wants out. 

you put a diamond inside a turd and you won’t see it sparkle 

 

Oh please, STOP making excuses for these highly paid pro's, pride alone should be enough for them to do their best and he won't get a move playing like this. In short you post is very weak and pretty pathetic and would wager you were one of the many daft posters that were making umpteen excuses for Paqueta months back too.