Sean Dyche sacked

[Fauxstralian]

3 hours before they play Peterborough in the FA Cup
Strange timing

[Gaffer58]

Ttt

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

According to majority of Everton fans on TS last night they agreed on:

Right to sack Dyche (who one of the Everton fans said he had turned them into arguably THE worst Everton side he had seen in 40 years)

Did not want Moyes as too pragmatic and too similar to Dyche

I find Moyes a bizarre choice as a replacement for Dyche. What the hell are they expecting Moyes to do that Dyche cannot. As others have rightly pointed out, the best times Moyes had with us was when he had some exciting attackers that could hurt teams on the counter. Everton do not have those players. Moyes was supposedly a pragmatic, defensively sound coach - But in his last six months with us we conceded a record number of goals. Conceding goals is not particularly Everton's issue - It's scoring them. Moyes isn't a progressive attacking coach. 

The whole thing is just completely bizarre. 

For some reason I hate Everton. I should kind of like them, I think. But whenever I hear them on the radio they sound like entitled cunts in general. They are a boring club now. I hope they do employ Moyes and he takes them down. 

Nothing bizarre about it at all ..everyone hates Everton .

I hope the KUMBstains GOD   is re-appointed there.
 shown up for what he is .. and we can finally move on.
Cheers

[Sydney_Iron]

Havent seen the details, but this reminds me of when Everton hired BFS, really just to get them to the end of the season after sacking Koeman, they then spent that time looking for a decent manager and said thanks to the Oaf at the end of the season who was hoping to carry on but they had decided on Silva who came in at the start of the summer break. never worked out but could be history repeating? And they see Moyes as someone who can keep them in the PL whilst they finish the stadium, hopefully sort out finances then hire a manger they deem good enough for the new stadium and owner's ambitions?

[Massive Attack]

Manuel

Aren’t they just replacing Dyche with Dyche? I’m not sure if Moyes offers anything different.

Yea you're right. Wealthy new owners, just about to move into a new stadium and they wheel out this dusty old dinosaur. You'd think the owners would want better to start a new era and show some intent and imagination, but it would be funny.

I understand it though,  they want a perceived safe pair of hands. Imagine their grand opening of the new shiny stadium being in the championship?

However I'm not so sure he is a safer pair of hands having relegated Sunderland before and that was with a full season in charge.

Much of a muchness between both Dyche and Moyes approach so it's difficult to say who would be more likely to keep them up. As Dyche was in post and managed to keep them up last season under incredible pressure due to the points deductions etc, he seems better equipped and more across all the detail than Moyes will be. 

[John Coffey]

According to majority of Everton fans on TS last night they agreed on:

Right to sack Dyche (who one of the Everton fans said he had turned them into arguably THE worst Everton side he had seen in 40 years)

Did not want Moyes as too pragmatic and too similar to Dyche

I find Moyes a bizarre choice as a replacement for Dyche. What the hell are they expecting Moyes to do that Dyche cannot. As others have rightly pointed out, the best times Moyes had with us was when he had some exciting attackers that could hurt teams on the counter. Everton do not have those players. Moyes was supposedly a pragmatic, defensively sound coach - But in his last six months with us we conceded a record number of goals. Conceding goals is not particularly Everton's issue - It's scoring them. Moyes isn't a progressive attacking coach. 

The whole thing is just completely bizarre. 

For some reason I hate Everton. I should kind of like them, I think. But whenever I hear them on the radio they sound like entitled cunts in general. They are a boring club now. I hope they do employ Moyes and he takes them down. 

The Everton fans that I know agree. Swapping one dinosaur for another. They won’t go down. 
They also hold grudges, like many of our fans. They haven’t forgiven Moyes for the way he left to go to ManU, and then unsettled some of their players by publicly stating that he wanted to sign them, and making lowball offers. 
I don’t mind Everton at all. Maybe it’s because of my mates following them. It’s those red murdering fucking cunts that I despise. 

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Manuel

Aren’t they just replacing Dyche with Dyche? I’m not sure if Moyes offers anything different.

Yea you're right. Wealthy new owners, just about to move into a new stadium and they wheel out this dusty old dinosaur. You'd think the owners would want better to start a new era and show some intent and imagination, but it would be funny.

I understand it though,  they want a perceived safe pair of hands. Imagine their grand opening of the new shiny stadium being in the championship?

Yea that's fair, probably why a short term deal is being muted.

Why are they trying to keep it silent?

[Pub Bigot]

In the eyes of boardrooms, the media and opposition fans, David Moyes stock is high. His history of relative success at Everton, and more recently at ours means he’ll galvanise the place and Everton will survive. 

I don’t have any dislike for Everton either, in fact Goodison is one of the last great grounds left. When it goes it’ll be Villa Park being the only proper ground. 

I hated Moyes’s reign post November 2021, apart from in Europe, but I will always respect the delivery of a trophy and that night in Prague. 

 

[Mad Ferret]

Moyes came back to us and won us a trophy.

I wouldn’t back against him returning to Everton and doing the same.

[nychammer]

Funny how West Ham fans are telling Everton fans that they should’ve been content with their negative, defensive manager. Careful what you wish for, Evertonians.

Moyes is definitely an upgrade on Dyche either way. It’s actually quite fitting that Moyes would be the last Everton manager at Goodison and he’ll stabilise them going into the new ground.

Nobody is telling Everton fans they should be happy with Dyche. Stop making stuff up.

What is being questioned is why sack Dyche and replace with Moyes. And that is more Evertonians doing that that anyone else. You say Moyes is an upgrade. That's your opinion. Looking at Everton's current squad and their issues, I don't think he is. 

Time will tell. 

This move for Moyes would have me scratching my head too, I think it’s a combination of recent success plus history plus the need to get past this season without being relegated. 

I have no hate for Everton fans btw, they are much like us, passionate about their club and having to live in the shadow of entitled neighbours with a superiority complex. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

I thought that it was Spurs and not Everton that we had an obsession with...

[Russ of the BML]

Funny how West Ham fans are telling Everton fans that they should’ve been content with their negative, defensive manager. Careful what you wish for, Evertonians.

Moyes is definitely an upgrade on Dyche either way. It’s actually quite fitting that Moyes would be the last Everton manager at Goodison and he’ll stabilise them going into the new ground.

Nobody is telling Everton fans they should be happy with Dyche. Stop making stuff up.

What is being questioned is why sack Dyche and replace with Moyes. And that is more Evertonians doing that that anyone else. You say Moyes is an upgrade. That's your opinion. Looking at Everton's current squad and their issues, I don't think he is. 

Time will tell. 

[Dick Shaftsbury]

I've nothing personal against Moyes but it'd be fucking funny if he took them down.

I know right, it won't be the fairytale they are all hoping for 

[Mad Ferret]

Funny how West Ham fans are telling Everton fans that they should’ve been content with their negative, defensive manager. Careful what you wish for, Evertonians.

Moyes is definitely an upgrade on Dyche either way. It’s actually quite fitting that Moyes would be the last Everton manager at Goodison and he’ll stabilise them going into the new ground.

[Come On You Irons]

According to majority of Everton fans on TS last night they agreed on:

Right to sack Dyche (who one of the Everton fans said he had turned them into arguably THE worst Everton side he had seen in 40 years)

Did not want Moyes as too pragmatic and too similar to Dyche

I find Moyes a bizarre choice as a replacement for Dyche. What the hell are they expecting Moyes to do that Dyche cannot. As others have rightly pointed out, the best times Moyes had with us was when he had some exciting attackers that could hurt teams on the counter. Everton do not have those players. Moyes was supposedly a pragmatic, defensively sound coach - But in his last six months with us we conceded a record number of goals. Conceding goals is not particularly Everton's issue - It's scoring them. Moyes isn't a progressive attacking coach. 

The whole thing is just completely bizarre. 

For some reason I hate Everton. I should kind of like them, I think. But whenever I hear them on the radio they sound like entitled cunts in general. They are a boring club now. I hope they do employ Moyes and he takes them down. 

Agreed. Dyche deserved to go because his Premier League win percentage as Everton manager over nearly two full seasons in charge was 28% (21 wins from 75 games), which is pathetic.

But going from Dyche to Moyes is indeed bizarre. I can only think the new board must feel appointing Moyes improves their chances of survival given what he did at West Ham coming in at a similar time in the 2017-2018 and 2019-2020 seasons and "saving" us from relegation each time. That completely negates the fact that he took Sunderland down in 2016-2017, and they finished rock bottom with 26 points after the 38 games (6 wins, 6 draws and 26 defeats). They also conceded 69 goals during that season.

[only1billybonds]

Great post Russ, I echo every word of that.

[nychammer]

Glad this happened after we confirmed Potter

[Russ of the BML]

According to majority of Everton fans on TS last night they agreed on:

Right to sack Dyche (who one of the Everton fans said he had turned them into arguably THE worst Everton side he had seen in 40 years)

Did not want Moyes as too pragmatic and too similar to Dyche

I find Moyes a bizarre choice as a replacement for Dyche. What the hell are they expecting Moyes to do that Dyche cannot. As others have rightly pointed out, the best times Moyes had with us was when he had some exciting attackers that could hurt teams on the counter. Everton do not have those players. Moyes was supposedly a pragmatic, defensively sound coach - But in his last six months with us we conceded a record number of goals. Conceding goals is not particularly Everton's issue - It's scoring them. Moyes isn't a progressive attacking coach. 

The whole thing is just completely bizarre. 

For some reason I hate Everton. I should kind of like them, I think. But whenever I hear them on the radio they sound like entitled cunts in general. They are a boring club now. I hope they do employ Moyes and he takes them down. 

[southbankbornnbred]

Trouble for Moyes at Everton will be they don't have the potential attacking threats that we had under his management.

Antonio, Kudus, Bowen and Paqueta were pretty much perfect for him....a guy that excelled at through balls from deep.couple with forwards that excelled in transition, and where Kudus and Bowen were concerned, were potentially finishers, as well as a powerful hard working forward who could carry the attack on his own.

All stuff that suits a low block, low possession quick break style of play, and our goals for stats showed it.

Trouble was he couldn't handle the box midfield and we got overrun, with hopeless goals against stats.

Translate the same goals against stats into Everton, but without the goals for stats, and Moyes will be a one way ticket to relegation for them.

I'm not so sure about that - McNeil, Ndiaye, Jack Harrison, DCL & Beto are all pretty mobile. Not world beaters but decent enough players.

Ndiaye is a good player. Bit inconsistent, but I like him. He ran the show against us for long periods of the game. So he'll be off soon!

[Manuel]

Apparently he disrespected Everton fans too and some haven't forgot. What a nasty piece of work he is.

[goose]

Trouble for Moyes at Everton will be they don't have the potential attacking threats that we had under his management.

Antonio, Kudus, Bowen and Paqueta were pretty much perfect for him....a guy that excelled at through balls from deep.couple with forwards that excelled in transition, and where Kudus and Bowen were concerned, were potentially finishers, as well as a powerful hard working forward who could carry the attack on his own.

All stuff that suits a low block, low possession quick break style of play, and our goals for stats showed it.

Trouble was he couldn't handle the box midfield and we got overrun, with hopeless goals against stats.

Translate the same goals against stats into Everton, but without the goals for stats, and Moyes will be a one way ticket to relegation for them.

I'm not so sure about that - McNeil, Ndiaye, Jack Harrison, DCL & Beto are all pretty mobile. Not world beaters but decent enough players.

[El Scorchio]

Moyes in talks (also posted this on the Everton thread.  So sue me!)

[Manuel]

Trouble for Moyes at Everton will be they don't have the potential attacking threats that we had under his management.

Antonio, Kudus, Bowen and Paqueta were pretty much perfect for him....a guy that excelled at through balls from deep.couple with forwards that excelled in transition, and where Kudus and Bowen were concerned, were potentially finishers, as well as a powerful hard working forward who could carry the attack on his own.

All stuff that suits a low block, low possession quick break style of play, and our goals for stats showed it.

Trouble was he couldn't handle the box midfield and we got overrun, with hopeless goals against stats.

Translate the same goals against stats into Everton, but without the goals for stats, and Moyes will be a one way ticket to relegation for them.

All fair points. You'd think there will be people at Everton fully aware of this. The more you think about it they've taken a risk sacking ginger.

[stubbo]

Trouble for Moyes at Everton will be they don't have the potential attacking threats that we had under his management.

Antonio, Kudus, Bowen and Paqueta were pretty much perfect for him....a guy that excelled at through balls from deep.couple with forwards that excelled in transition, and where Kudus and Bowen were concerned, were potentially finishers, as well as a powerful hard working forward who could carry the attack on his own.

All stuff that suits a low block, low possession quick break style of play, and our goals for stats showed it.

Trouble was he couldn't handle the box midfield and we got overrun, with hopeless goals against stats.

Translate the same goals against stats into Everton, but without the goals for stats, and Moyes will be a one way ticket to relegation for them.

[Westside]

I would love for Everton to appoint Moyes.

If they get the version of Moyes from when he left West Ham they are going to be in trouble.

In his last 19 he managed to win 4 games, draw 7 and lose 8.  His GD for those games was -17 having conceded 44 goals.

 

Such is the state of teams at the bottom of the table, with 19 games left for Everton, if he matches that record (19 poins) he will keep them up, quite easily.

[scott_d]

Drew with Chelsea, Arsenal & Man City in the last few weeks but have been completely unable to score
Feel a bit sorry for him as think he has done what he could with the resources to hand
Quite keen for D Moyes to return & take them down into the Championship so they can open the new stadium at home to Luton

Could be opening the stadium with Everton Vs Wrexham!