The stadium

[Kevinhammer]

I am a big hammer from Norway, been to the new stadium a couple of times. Haven't been to Boleyn, (only watched every documentary about it) but just can't help the bitterness of missing the ground and the old West Ham feeling.
What do you guys actually think of the stadium and the atmosphere.
Do you guys think we will move away from London Stadium anytime soon? and actually get our own stadium.
Anyways good game yesterday, we really looked like an football team today, give him 10 years!
 

[F 129 Row66]

It's still full of cunts.
It's still full of cunts
Their big new stadium.
It's still full of cunts

[scott_d]

To be fair, both Spurs and Arsenal are fleecing their fans with the prices they pay for tickets and that is the cost for a purpose built stadium.

Say what you want but the prices at the OS are decent ans have been since we moved in.  Perhaps you get what you pay for!

The concessions issue is another matter and shouldn't be forgotten.

[Massive Attack]

Read somewhere that the Spuds make revenue of between £5-6 million per home match against ours of £1-2 million.

 

This is true mate.
However it'll still take a fuck load of time to repay the debt owed for the construction of the Northumberland Development (as it was known when I worked on it 12-15 years ago, circa £1 billion,)
There's a reason why Levy has a go-cart track in the basement. They're desperate to recoup the expenditure.
Joe Lewis won't be around forever to bankroll the cunts.
Compare this with the pittance we're paying to rent the shithole we call home.
Yeah, it's THEIR stadium, but the construction/development cost will shackle them for years.

The NFL are paying half mate.

Pay half for what?

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

I am a big hammer from Norway, been to the new stadium a couple of times. Haven't been to Boleyn, (only watched every documentary about it) but just can't help the bitterness of missing the ground and the old West Ham feeling.
What do you guys actually think of the stadium and the atmosphere.
Do you guys think we will move away from London Stadium anytime soon? and actually get our own stadium.
Anyways good game yesterday, we really looked like an football team today, give him 10 years!

 

A polo  named Kevin..????
Is your mums name Gudrun?...in her 50's?

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

The NFL are paying half mate.

 

 

 

Really?
Not in a position to argue fella as I only know what I know when I worked on the project.
I would say that the reason the practice I worked for, after gaining planning permission, lost the project was because the goal-posts were moved (by the club) substantially after said permission was granted.
To accomodate the NFL franchise.
However, £500mill (approx half the constrution cost) for a stadium the lightweight egg-chasers only make use of a few times a year?

 

[Steady]

Read somewhere that the Spuds make revenue of between £5-6 million per home match against ours of £1-2 million.

 

More supporters meaning higher ticket price?

Spurs get smaller attendances, season averages below 24/25.

1	Manchester United	73,717
2	West Ham United	62,465
3	Tottenham Hotspur	61,335
4	Liverpool	60,298
5	Arsenal	60,269

[Mad Ferret]

Read somewhere that the Spuds make revenue of between £5-6 million per home match against ours of £1-2 million.

 

This is true mate.
However it'll still take a fuck load of time to repay the debt owed for the construction of the Northumberland Development (as it was known when I worked on it 12-15 years ago, circa £1 billion,)
There's a reason why Levy has a go-cart track in the basement. They're desperate to recoup the expenditure.
Joe Lewis won't be around forever to bankroll the cunts.
Compare this with the pittance we're paying to rent the shithole we call home.
Yeah, it's THEIR stadium, but the construction/development cost will shackle them for years.

The NFL are paying half mate.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

Read somewhere that the Spuds make revenue of between £5-6 million per home match against ours of £1-2 million.

 

 

This is true mate.
However it'll still take a fuck load of time to repay the debt owed for the construction of the Northumberland Development (as it was known when I worked on it 12-15 years ago, circa £1 billion,)
There's a reason why Levy has a go-cart track in the basement. They're desperate to recoup the expenditure.
Joe Lewis won't be around forever to bankroll the cunts.
Compare this with the pittance we're paying to rent the shithole we call home.
Yeah, it's THEIR stadium, but the construction/development cost will shackle them for years.

[Ladysmith]

Read somewhere that the Spuds make revenue of between £5-6 million per home match against ours of £1-2 million.

 

More supporters meaning higher ticket price?

[Gaffer58]

Read somewhere that the Spuds make revenue of between £5-6 million per home match against ours of £1-2 million.

[Mad Ferret]

Seems mad to think next season will mark our decade anniversary as a Club in the shithole. Still feels like yesterday we said goodbye to the Boleyn. 

It's not like everyone connected to the Olympic Stadium can now say there hasn't been a 'legacy' post Olympic games, as there has. I just question whether it might be in everyone's interest if we part company with it over the course of the next decade. There's been at least 10 years worth out of the bodge job conversion, just how many more years can they justify a loss of £15M a year..

In just 10 years there we've won 25% of what we won in 112 years at the Boleyn.

You what? You mean the Champions League within 5 years, and a world class team in a world class stadium was all a load of bollocks by hairy growler and the midget cսnt?

Next you’ll be telling me Gold lied about the retractable seating and it being as close to the pitch as Upton Park. 

2 points off the CL in 2020/21.

[Pub Bigot]

Seems mad to think next season will mark our decade anniversary as a Club in the shithole. Still feels like yesterday we said goodbye to the Boleyn. 

It's not like everyone connected to the Olympic Stadium can now say there hasn't been a 'legacy' post Olympic games, as there has. I just question whether it might be in everyone's interest if we part company with it over the course of the next decade. There's been at least 10 years worth out of the bodge job conversion, just how many more years can they justify a loss of £15M a year..

In just 10 years there we've won 25% of what we won in 112 years at the Boleyn.

You what? You mean the Champions League within 5 years, and a world class team in a world class stadium was all a load of bollocks by hairy growler and the midget cսnt?

Next you’ll be telling me Gold lied about the retractable seating and it being as close to the pitch as Upton Park. 

[Mad Ferret]

Seems mad to think next season will mark our decade anniversary as a Club in the shithole. Still feels like yesterday we said goodbye to the Boleyn. 

It's not like everyone connected to the Olympic Stadium can now say there hasn't been a 'legacy' post Olympic games, as there has. I just question whether it might be in everyone's interest if we part company with it over the course of the next decade. There's been at least 10 years worth out of the bodge job conversion, just how many more years can they justify a loss of £15M a year..

In just 10 years there we've won 25% of what we won in 112 years at the Boleyn.

[Massive Attack]

Seems mad to think next season will mark our decade anniversary as a Club in the shithole. Still feels like yesterday we said goodbye to the Boleyn. 

It's not like everyone connected to the Olympic Stadium can now say there hasn't been a 'legacy' post Olympic games, as there has. I just question whether it might be in everyone's interest if we part company with it over the course of the next decade. There's been at least 10 years worth out of the bodge job conversion, just how many more years can they justify a loss of £15M a year..

[factory seconds]

The land it's on is worth an estimated £3 billion . Forget the stadium.  Could easily build another 60 000 plus stadium on that footprint and have more than enough space to build hotels casino and retail spaces.On it . 

The land may be worth £3b but you'd have to take into account demolition costs and 90 years of future losses at £15m per year.

Nobody would pay much for a site with a fucking great stadium in the middle that they can't redevelop for 90 years.

this is the crux of it, and the reason my last dying light of optimism.

if the development rights for that plot of land was put on offer the qataris would snap it up in a second, likely to the tune of multiple billions. so instead of the council having a 15m black hole in their budget every year, they could absolutely coin it in. their problem is there's a horrible little football club owned by a porn gimp squatting there.

i don't think there's a deal to be struck while sullivan/brady are here. there's too much bad blood...but a new owner? perhaps.

so a new owner comes in and puts a deal on the table for the council: you sanction us a plot of land somewhere acceptable and at least part finance a new ground (say, 500m towards it) and then we'll fuck off out of your hair and you can make 6x that amount from some dosy cսnt in a keffiyeh.

the alternative would be to agree to having the stadium knocked down and rebuilt in a much smaller footprint, with the costs covered by the arabs who are then given free reign to fill the other 3/4s of the land with whatever garish LED lit glass monstrosities they desire.

eitherway, the council gets a windfall and  the taxpayer stops having to fund a stadium that we don't want to be in. it's such an obvious solution that the only thing i can see preventing it is the fact sullivan is a massive cսnt and giving him a win like that is beyond the pale.

[Fauxstralian]

Last figure I saw had the Everton stadium costing £800m & Tottenham’s somewhere between £1.2bn & £1.5bn
A new stadium in the London area would presumably be closer to the latter

[Massive Attack]

 

Would probably be more cost effective to level it and build again.

 

Tried to have a quick nose at cost of bulldozing the lot and difficult to find an exact figure but think something around £50M could be enough to get rid of it and start again. It just costs silly money to reconfigure the Stadium as it is only for it to still be a dogs dinner. 

Or maybe is it a case of mutually ending the 90 year lease contract if all parties agreed to it and we fuck off to build our own purpose built owned Ground again and let someone else take it over as some kind of multipurpose/Entertainment Stadium? 

I can't see us being there for the next 90 years in its current guise and drain on the public purse. 

Judging by the cost of Tottenham's move, Wembley and Man U's proposals, the cost is going to be closer to a billion than £50m, isn't it? Or am I missing something?

I was only referring to the cost it might take to demolish the existing mechano set, not the cost of the rebuild itself.

What would be better use of money to demolish and rebuild from scratch or attempt to paper over the cracks using hundreds of millions like the last so-called redevelopment cost to finally make it in to Stadium fit for purpose for Football and not the dogs dinner it currently is? 

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

For ten years I’ve been reading this sort of crap on various fan sites. There is absolutely no chance of the athletics bowl ever being converted into something even vaguely resembling a football stadium. Firstly the upper tier is fixed and immoveable, while the lower tier is as close to the pitch as it can get. 
The only way you could improve it would be by knocking half of it down and rebuilding, therefore allowing the pitch to be moved and therefore much closer to all four sides. However it’s obvious that the cost of doing this would be huge so it would probably be cheaper to build a new stadium on a fresh site somewhere.
The truth is that because the club ended up doing the deal of all deals with the LLDC they’re very happy with the current arrangement where they have the 2nd biggest capacity club stadium in England for virtually peanuts.  There’s no incentive for the owners to change things, so we’re stuck with it for a very long time.

 

Would probably be more cost effective to level it and build again.

 

Tried to have a quick nose at cost of bulldozing the lot and difficult to find an exact figure but think something around £50M could be enough to get rid of it and start again. It just costs silly money to reconfigure the Stadium as it is only for it to still be a dogs dinner. 

Or maybe is it a case of mutually ending the 90 year lease contract if all parties agreed to it and we fuck off to build our own purpose built owned Ground again and let someone else take it over as some kind of multipurpose/Entertainment Stadium? 

I can't see us being there for the next 90 years in its current guise and drain on the public purse. 

Judging by the cost of Tottenham's move, Wembley and Man U's proposals, the cost is going to be closer to a billion than £50m, isn't it? Or am I missing something?

[Pub Bigot]

Also, I meant to ask, what tube do you use when you avoid the stop go and go straight to a pub more or less in the opposition direction to Stratford?

Go over the A12 footbridge and straight down Old Ford Road all the way to Bethnal Green tube. Salmon and Ball is right front of the station.

If you want a quick escape, go to Pudding Mill Lane station, or walk back through Fish Island and work your way to Bow Road or Mile End. If you’re travelling back into Essex you’ve avoided the crowded, done some steps and get an empty train to West Ham, Upmister etc to go into Essex.

[Mad Ferret]

Also, I meant to ask, what tube do you use when you avoid the stop go and go straight to a pub more or less in the opposition direction to Stratford?

Go over the A12 footbridge and straight down Old Ford Road all the way to Bethnal Green tube. Salmon and Ball is right front of the station.

[fraser]

Also, I meant to ask, what tube do you use when you avoid the stop go and go straight to a pub more or less in the opposition direction to Stratford?

You can avoid the stop go at Stratford by just walking around the long way, much better I would rather walk further at my own pace 

[Massive Attack]

For ten years I’ve been reading this sort of crap on various fan sites. There is absolutely no chance of the athletics bowl ever being converted into something even vaguely resembling a football stadium. Firstly the upper tier is fixed and immoveable, while the lower tier is as close to the pitch as it can get. 
The only way you could improve it would be by knocking half of it down and rebuilding, therefore allowing the pitch to be moved and therefore much closer to all four sides. However it’s obvious that the cost of doing this would be huge so it would probably be cheaper to build a new stadium on a fresh site somewhere.
The truth is that because the club ended up doing the deal of all deals with the LLDC they’re very happy with the current arrangement where they have the 2nd biggest capacity club stadium in England for virtually peanuts.  There’s no incentive for the owners to change things, so we’re stuck with it for a very long time.

 

Would probably be more cost effective to level it and build again.

 

Tried to have a quick nose at cost of bulldozing the lot and difficult to find an exact figure but think something around £50M could be enough to get rid of it and start again. It just costs silly money to reconfigure the Stadium as it is only for it to still be a dogs dinner. 

Or maybe is it a case of mutually ending the 90 year lease contract if all parties agreed to it and we fuck off to build our own purpose built owned Ground again and let someone else take it over as some kind of multipurpose/Entertainment Stadium? 

I can't see us being there for the next 90 years in its current guise and drain on the public purse. 

[Manuel]

Also, I meant to ask, what tube do you use when you avoid the stop go and go straight to a pub more or less in the opposition direction to Stratford?

Bow Road - Little Driver pub nearby.

[Mex Martillo]

Also, I meant to ask, what tube do you use when you avoid the stop go and go straight to a pub more or less in the opposition direction to Stratford?

[Mex Martillo]

Seriously, there are rules that a roof must be over the seating?
I've thought, I'd like to see the lower seating moved to be pitch side. The upper seating cannot be moved without demolishing and starting again. In the big, or even bigger gap between lower and upper seating, I'd like to see bars, TVs, pub food, stuff like that a kind of hospitality area for everyone, I think could work.