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Free speech is above politics. If you don't understand that, you don't understand life.
Politicians hang on it's left and right coat-tails in the hope of popular traction/adoration, but it's not political.
What it is, is about a significant number of people with a controlling interest in the way the country is run (not governed) imposing their 6th form derived policies on the rest of us and denying (the people) the chance to question them.
And, don't forget that 6th formers, when they came up with all these "great" ideas to solve the world's problems still had their lives' (almost fully) financed by (the bank of) Mum & Dad / Ma & Pa / Mater & Pater / Father & Mother/ Mom & Pop. They had no practical idea of wealth creation (and fair distribution) while pontificating during their Thursday afternoon debates.
We need freedom of speech more than ever in this period of western unrest - nothing to be gained (or leaned) from cancelling those who say stuff you don't agree with.
Politicians hang on it's left and right coat-tails in the hope of popular traction/adoration, but it's not political.
What it is, is about a significant number of people with a controlling interest in the way the country is run (not governed) imposing their 6th form derived policies on the rest of us and denying (the people) the chance to question them.
And, don't forget that 6th formers, when they came up with all these "great" ideas to solve the world's problems still had their lives' (almost fully) financed by (the bank of) Mum & Dad / Ma & Pa / Mater & Pater / Father & Mother/ Mom & Pop. They had no practical idea of wealth creation (and fair distribution) while pontificating during their Thursday afternoon debates.
We need freedom of speech more than ever in this period of western unrest - nothing to be gained (or leaned) from cancelling those who say stuff you don't agree with.
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Exiled In Surrey" wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025, 10:07 You can't even say I support Palestine Action without being arrested.
...nor, seemingly, Plasticine Action, in support of stop-go movie making.
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Exiled In Surrey" wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025, 10:07 You can't even say I support Palestine Action without being arrested.
...and thrown into jail.
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Exiled In Surrey" wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025, 10:07 You can't even say I support Palestine Action without being arrested.
Good the scumbags caused 7m damage to our RAF defence aircraft....definitely a terrorist offence
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You can't even say I support Palestine Action without being arrested.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 19:32XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 16:47SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 14:49Yes, how dare he be nasty about the angelic, Welsh choirboy?
They weren't 'conspiracy theory lies/disinformation' they were conclusions that any reasonable person would have drawn given the circumstances of the attacks, the known facts and the obvious reluctance of the police or government to tell the truth about it.Thing is I've been much more nasty on this thread towards the murdering scumbag but for some reason you have taken Oxbore's position that it's ok posting disinformation and saying its freedom of speech(thread topic)Pure deflection. Any fucker can (and on WHO will, rightly, have to) call a child murderer a scumbag after he is convicted. Safe in that security blanket, you are lobbing missiles at those who were outraged by the authorities initial mendacious, misdirecting and controlling response and jumped to perfectly reasonable if very slightly inaccurate conclusions. You seem more outraged about that response than about 'the scumbag'. And the more you keep banging on about it, and the more you keep protesting, 'nobody hates child murderers more than me, BUT', the more you make my case for me. That's why I'm on Oxsore's 'side'.
What a load of bollocks
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XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 16:47SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 14:49Yes, how dare he be nasty about the angelic, Welsh choirboy?
They weren't 'conspiracy theory lies/disinformation' they were conclusions that any reasonable person would have drawn given the circumstances of the attacks, the known facts and the obvious reluctance of the police or government to tell the truth about it.Thing is I've been much more nasty on this thread towards the murdering scumbag but for some reason you have taken Oxbore's position that it's ok posting disinformation and saying its freedom of speech(thread topic)
Pure deflection. Any fucker can (and on WHO will, rightly, have to) call a child murderer a scumbag after he is convicted. Safe in that security blanket, you are lobbing missiles at those who were outraged by the authorities initial mendacious, misdirecting and controlling response and jumped to perfectly reasonable if very slightly inaccurate conclusions. You seem more outraged about that response than about 'the scumbag'. And the more you keep banging on about it, and the more you keep protesting, 'nobody hates child murderers more than me, BUT', the more you make my case for me. That's why I'm on Oxsore's 'side'.
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I like to remeber what my alkoholik firend all way say at time like this
"No i co z tego, że jestem pijany. Mam prawo być pijany. Lubię być pijany. Zrób mi proszę kanapkę z kapustą"
"No i co z tego, że jestem pijany. Mam prawo być pijany. Lubię być pijany. Zrób mi proszę kanapkę z kapustą"
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Please, lets drag neither politics or religion into this thread - this is simply about the freedom to express your thoughts without needing the approval of anybody else.
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- Mike Oxsaw
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Vexed wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 17:17Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 10:27 Free speech is above politics. If you don't understand that, you don't understand life.
Politicians hang on it's left and right coat-tails in the hope of popular traction/adoration, but it's not political.
What it is, is about a significant number of people with a controlling interest in the way the country is run (not governed) imposing their 6th form derived policies on the rest of us and denying (the people) the chance to question them.
And, don't forget that 6th formers, when they came up with all these "great" ideas to solve the world's problems still had their lives' (almost fully) financed by (the bank of) Mum & Dad / Ma & Pa / Mater & Pater / Father & Mother/ Mom & Pop. They had no practical idea of wealth creation (and fair distribution) while pontificating during their Thursday afternoon debates.
We need freedom of speech more than ever in this period of western unrest - nothing to be gained (or leaned) from cancelling those who say stuff you don't agree with.If I was Stubby Cock, I'd be telling you you're welcome to free speech - when you fuck off and start up your own fucking website to do so, you hiding from Op Yew Tree in downtown Arsecrackistan pretending to be an ice cream man, looking over your shoulder, skittish oddball cսnt.
And for fucks sake will you tell them what you've done with Maddy, you fucking vile creature. Enough is enough.
An absolutely excellent example of free speech in action. Thanks for your support.
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 10:27 Free speech is above politics. If you don't understand that, you don't understand life.
Politicians hang on it's left and right coat-tails in the hope of popular traction/adoration, but it's not political.
What it is, is about a significant number of people with a controlling interest in the way the country is run (not governed) imposing their 6th form derived policies on the rest of us and denying (the people) the chance to question them.
And, don't forget that 6th formers, when they came up with all these "great" ideas to solve the world's problems still had their lives' (almost fully) financed by (the bank of) Mum & Dad / Ma & Pa / Mater & Pater / Father & Mother/ Mom & Pop. They had no practical idea of wealth creation (and fair distribution) while pontificating during their Thursday afternoon debates.
We need freedom of speech more than ever in this period of western unrest - nothing to be gained (or leaned) from cancelling those who say stuff you don't agree with.
If I was Stubby Cock, I'd be telling you you're welcome to free speech - when you fuck off and start up your own fucking website to do so, you hiding from Op Yew Tree in downtown Arsecrackistan pretending to be an ice cream man, looking over your shoulder, skittish oddball cսnt.
And for fucks sake will you tell them what you've done with Maddy, you fucking vile creature. Enough is enough.
And for fucks sake will you tell them what you've done with Maddy, you fucking vile creature. Enough is enough.
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XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 17:08On The Ball" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 16:53 Ah, the 'we have no freedom of speech' claim. The same claim that Lucy Connolly made while saying whatever the fuck she liked.She shouldn't have posted that and rightly nicked but very harshly treated,was a hugh mistake and probably didn't really mean it,but then again black labour counciler behaves even worst and gets not guilty on same charge because he says he didn't mean it FFS!!!
Both cases are not freedom of speech but hate speech
But YOU are free to post hateful things about me are you not? Freedom and hate are not synonymous.
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On The Ball" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 16:53 Ah, the 'we have no freedom of speech' claim. The same claim that Lucy Connolly made while saying whatever the fuck she liked.
Exactly, and the same claim of freedom of speech that Ricky Jones...
Oh yeah, I forgot. Silly me!
Oh yeah, I forgot. Silly me!
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On The Ball" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 16:53 Ah, the 'we have no freedom of speech' claim. The same claim that Lucy Connolly made while saying whatever the fuck she liked.
She shouldn't have posted that and rightly nicked but very harshly treated,was a hugh mistake and probably didn't really mean it,but then again black labour counciler behaves even worst and gets not guilty on same charge because he says he didn't mean it FFS!!!
Both cases are not freedom of speech but hate speech
Both cases are not freedom of speech but hate speech
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XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 16:43Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 14:01Given as it was the only information available at the time, when I re-posted it, it was, as you insist on putting it "OK".
Subsequent information to the contrary can have no impact on that now historical act.
Did you or someone you know actually go nuts and act on the strength of my re-post?
Should everybody wait until you (YOU, big 100% reasonable YOU) announce it as verified & truthful?
Again, you're just letting your grudge against comments attributed to an anonymous user name drive your emotions.
Not everyone knows the person behind a user name (although you, like H&P, Alf Ghandi and the multi-faceted Manuel) have freely posted up enough about themselves to make you all easily identifiable in the real world: that's 100% your problem for making those posts - nobody forced you.I suppose that is the nearest we will get that you admit you posted a porkie
And your proof that it was "a porkie" when I posted it is?
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Ah, the 'we have no freedom of speech' claim. The same claim that Lucy Connolly made while saying whatever the fuck she liked.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 14:49XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:35Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:27OK. Now you've got your very Manuel-esque strop out of your system, care to get back to debating the points I made rather than trying to make the post all about me?
I'm sure you'd get loads of support if you did make a separate post all about me and I would never run to the mods asking for it to be locked/deleted.Waffle reply
OK I'll ask again ...do you think it was OK for you to post on here conspiracy theorist lies/disinformation about the murdering Southport scumbag and class that as freedom of speech?Yes, how dare he be nasty about the angelic, Welsh choirboy?
They weren't 'conspiracy theory lies/disinformation' they were conclusions that any reasonable person would have drawn given the circumstances of the attacks, the known facts and the obvious reluctance of the police or government to tell the truth about it.
Thing is I've been much more nasty on this thread towards the murdering scumbag but for some reason you have taken Oxbore's position that it's ok posting disinformation and saying its freedom of speech(thread topic)
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 14:01XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:35Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:27OK. Now you've got your very Manuel-esque strop out of your system, care to get back to debating the points I made rather than trying to make the post all about me?
I'm sure you'd get loads of support if you did make a separate post all about me and I would never run to the mods asking for it to be locked/deleted.Waffle reply
OK I'll ask again ...do you think it was OK for you to post on here conspiracy theorist lies/disinformation about the murdering Southport scumbag and class that as freedom of speech?Given as it was the only information available at the time, when I re-posted it, it was, as you insist on putting it "OK".
Subsequent information to the contrary can have no impact on that now historical act.
Did you or someone you know actually go nuts and act on the strength of my re-post?
Should everybody wait until you (YOU, big 100% reasonable YOU) announce it as verified & truthful?
Again, you're just letting your grudge against comments attributed to an anonymous user name drive your emotions.
Not everyone knows the person behind a user name (although you, like H&P, Alf Ghandi and the multi-faceted Manuel) have freely posted up enough about themselves to make you all easily identifiable in the real world: that's 100% your problem for making those posts - nobody forced you.
I suppose that is the nearest we will get that you admit you posted a porkie
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 14:49XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:35Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:27OK. Now you've got your very Manuel-esque strop out of your system, care to get back to debating the points I made rather than trying to make the post all about me?
I'm sure you'd get loads of support if you did make a separate post all about me and I would never run to the mods asking for it to be locked/deleted.Waffle reply
OK I'll ask again ...do you think it was OK for you to post on here conspiracy theorist lies/disinformation about the murdering Southport scumbag and class that as freedom of speech?Yes, how dare he be nasty about the angelic, Welsh choirboy?
They weren't 'conspiracy theory lies/disinformation' they were conclusions that any reasonable person would have drawn given the circumstances of the attacks, the known facts and the obvious reluctance of the police or government to tell the truth about it.
Bullshit
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XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:35Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:27XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:23Glad you used the word prove because as I've stated you are a liar and think its OK because its your sickening version of free speech and then you accused me trying to lock this thread plus then you added the usual hints I'm a child murdering nonce(more of your twisted view of free speech???)OK. Now you've got your very Manuel-esque strop out of your system, care to get back to debating the points I made rather than trying to make the post all about me?
I'm sure you'd get loads of support if you did make a separate post all about me and I would never run to the mods asking for it to be locked/deleted.Waffle reply
OK I'll ask again ...do you think it was OK for you to post on here conspiracy theorist lies/disinformation about the murdering Southport scumbag and class that as freedom of speech?
Yes, how dare he be nasty about the angelic, Welsh choirboy?
They weren't 'conspiracy theory lies/disinformation' they were conclusions that any reasonable person would have drawn given the circumstances of the attacks, the known facts and the obvious reluctance of the police or government to tell the truth about it.
They weren't 'conspiracy theory lies/disinformation' they were conclusions that any reasonable person would have drawn given the circumstances of the attacks, the known facts and the obvious reluctance of the police or government to tell the truth about it.
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That Welsh choir boy didnt half love decapitation of young girls though.
Problem with that story was the authorities and mainstream narratives or lack of info.
Telling it straighter for the last 30 years might mean less of the rage now?
Problem with that story was the authorities and mainstream narratives or lack of info.
Telling it straighter for the last 30 years might mean less of the rage now?
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XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:35Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:27XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:23Glad you used the word prove because as I've stated you are a liar and think its OK because its your sickening version of free speech and then you accused me trying to lock this thread plus then you added the usual hints I'm a child murdering nonce(more of your twisted view of free speech???)OK. Now you've got your very Manuel-esque strop out of your system, care to get back to debating the points I made rather than trying to make the post all about me?
I'm sure you'd get loads of support if you did make a separate post all about me and I would never run to the mods asking for it to be locked/deleted.Waffle reply
OK I'll ask again ...do you think it was OK for you to post on here conspiracy theorist lies/disinformation about the murdering Southport scumbag and class that as freedom of speech?
Given as it was the only information available at the time, when I re-posted it, it was, as you insist on putting it "OK".
Subsequent information to the contrary can have no impact on that now historical act.
Did you or someone you know actually go nuts and act on the strength of my re-post?
Should everybody wait until you (YOU, big 100% reasonable YOU) announce it as verified & truthful?
Again, you're just letting your grudge against comments attributed to an anonymous user name drive your emotions.
Not everyone knows the person behind a user name (although you, like H&P, Alf Ghandi and the multi-faceted Manuel) have freely posted up enough about themselves to make you all easily identifiable in the real world: that's 100% your problem for making those posts - nobody forced you.
Subsequent information to the contrary can have no impact on that now historical act.
Did you or someone you know actually go nuts and act on the strength of my re-post?
Should everybody wait until you (YOU, big 100% reasonable YOU) announce it as verified & truthful?
Again, you're just letting your grudge against comments attributed to an anonymous user name drive your emotions.
Not everyone knows the person behind a user name (although you, like H&P, Alf Ghandi and the multi-faceted Manuel) have freely posted up enough about themselves to make you all easily identifiable in the real world: that's 100% your problem for making those posts - nobody forced you.
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:27XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:23Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 12:26So what are you trying to prove here then? That one swallow proves a certain summer, whatever, or, as seems more obvious. one swallow, with whom you disagree, proves a certain summer?Glad you used the word prove because as I've stated you are a liar and think its OK because its your sickening version of free speech and then you accused me trying to lock this thread plus then you added the usual hints I'm a child murdering nonce(more of your twisted view of free speech???)OK. Now you've got your very Manuel-esque strop out of your system, care to get back to debating the points I made rather than trying to make the post all about me?
I'm sure you'd get loads of support if you did make a separate post all about me and I would never run to the mods asking for it to be locked/deleted.
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OK I'll ask again ...do you think it was OK for you to post on here conspiracy theorist lies/disinformation about the murdering Southport scumbag and class that as freedom of speech?
OK I'll ask again ...do you think it was OK for you to post on here conspiracy theorist lies/disinformation about the murdering Southport scumbag and class that as freedom of speech?
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XKhammer wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 13:23Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025, 12:26So what are you trying to prove here then? That one swallow proves a certain summer, whatever, or, as seems more obvious. one swallow, with whom you disagree, proves a certain summer?Glad you used the word prove because as I've stated you are a liar and think its OK because its your sickening version of free speech and then you accused me trying to lock this thread plus then you added the usual hints I'm a child murdering nonce(more of your twisted view of free speech???)
OK. Now you've got your very Manuel-esque strop out of your system, care to get back to debating the points I made rather than trying to make the post all about me?
I'm sure you'd get loads of support if you did make a separate post all about me and I would never run to the mods asking for it to be locked/deleted.
I'm sure you'd get loads of support if you did make a separate post all about me and I would never run to the mods asking for it to be locked/deleted.