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Central Park Man" wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 13:45

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 12:30 The sending off was what killed the game. It wasn't necessarily over at 0-1 although we were on the ropes. You're never out of it 0-1, but we're dodgy enough with 11 men. 10 is a backbreaker for us.

Agree the first half or at least the first 30 mins was something to build upon. There's definitely room for improvement in midfield and up front assuming Potter is sensible enough to play both the new boys in the middle of the park. The worry is fixing the shamble we seem to have become at the back and from set pieces.

I agree - with 11 men we would have at least got a draw. A more lenient and fair referee cost us that game and it was his decision alone that killed us.

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 12:30 The sending off was what killed the game. It wasn't necessarily over at 0-1 although we were on the ropes. You're never out of it 0-1, but we're dodgy enough with 11 men. 10 is a backbreaker for us.

Agree the first half or at least the first 30 mins was something to build upon. There's definitely room for improvement in midfield and up front assuming Potter is sensible enough to play both the new boys in the middle of the park. The worry is fixing the shamble we seem to have become at the back and from set pieces.

threesixty wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 11:52 The thing is, if we had this result and had better results with Potter over the last 8 months I’d have just written it off. Bad day at the office. I actually commented at the end of the 1st half that we actually looked like a normal top flight team in that 1st half. By that I mean I’ve seen good teams not at it on the day be beat back by the opposition but defend ok and manage to keep themselves in the game etc. it seemed normal. But the second half was just more of the same. 

The problem is when will Potter turn the corner convincingly? Is that even possible? This result in context just looks like he doesn’t know what he’s doing at all. It makes the Forest result look fortunate rather than planned. 

I don’t hate the guy. I just feel it’s like a bad relationship. It’s obviously not working out. I can’t see it ever will but I would have loved to be proven wrong. 

I think I posted at the beginning of the season that managers don’t suddenly change their form from one season to the next. It normally just more of the same. Seems the case is true here. 



 

BRANDED wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 11:34 Seems like a great goal to me. If we'd scored it we'd be ecstatic. Re the keeper?

Who knows. Ask a keeper.

Oh, and it was a " long ball" over the top. 

BRANDED wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 11:05 We got pushed back more and more conceding loads of corners. Bearing in mind that has been our weakest area it WAS only a matter of time. Their second goal was ( spits ) superb even if we did make mistakes. 

Mostly we didnt keep putting pressure on them and that was worse after the sending off. 

We desperately need more energy and power.

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑15 Sep 2025, 10:38 Don't know if it got mentioned but that ball boy MOTM for mugging Kudus off.

Central Park Man" wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 16:49 All I am seeing on this forum is a load of over reaction.

If it wasn;t for the sending off we would have at least got a draw. In the first half we were the way better side and should have had a penalty.

The sending off was dubious to say the least and that's what changwed the game.

Everyone please calm down as Potter will come good.

Tomshardware wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 11:43

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 10:46

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 09:21 What really fucks me off is most teams know a good cdm is one of thr most important positions on the pitch.  We had rice and that carried us for a long time.  Alvarez did OK in his first season then fell off a cliff (mainly due to attitude)

Who was our cdm yesterday?  Neither jwp or soucek fit that role

It’ll be magassa within a game or two. It has to be. He showed like Fernandes more in a short spell after he came on and before I left the ground than the others showed in 20 matches. It HAS to be him Fernandes and Paqueta. I simply won’t understand Potter doing anything else unless something utterly mystifying is happening in training compared to matches. 

What is becoming an utterly bizarre loyalty to JWP is going to cost him his job. (Unless buying Hermansen does it first) I understood it last year to an extent because there were basically no credible alternatives between players who were shit or had downed tools and he was arguably the most reliable of a bad bunch but you can’t pick a player just because they are the ‘model pro’ or ‘first in and last out’ if that’s the case. We need the most talented players playing and that was muddy as to who it was last season. It’s clear it’s Magassa and Fernandes. I also don’t understand how Potts is just being completely ignored now after preseason. 

Id have more sympathy for the manager if I understood what he’s trying to do with his team selections in midfield or striker, but I just don’t half the time. Or like last season when he just had dross to pick from in midfield. Well now he’s got a couple of decent looking players at his disposal. 

I can’t get on him too much about central defence seen as none of those players are his fault and all Sullivan did was get in a Brighton reserve player. He’s saddled with absolute stinking shit at that position. He’s gone to a back four like everyone was baying for and they were still fucking awful. When a player you didn’t even trust to put on in a bad team last season above past it full backs at CB becomes your starter by default, you’re in big big trouble. Todibo will go the way of Aguerd and Alvarez. He just seems lazy unwilling and malevolent. Mav will go when someone half decent signs. Kilman, well he’s a stinking floater we won’t be able to flush for almost six more years. We are FUCKED at centre back. Need two starting quality players in January. 

Sullivan out. This is all his mess and poor decisions cone to a head. 

The only conclusion I can come to with JWP's selection is set pieces,  which is just odd as I can't remember the last time we scored from any set piece.   

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 11:52

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 11:30 The potts thing is as baffling as it is stupid.  Why play him all pre season then completely blank him.  Especially for jwp/Rodriguez (soucek is a different type of player so gets a pass on that... to a degree)

Frankly id have steve potts back instead of those 2 clowns.

You say (as do us all) that he HAS to play fernandes and mugassa.... but id put money on crab pass mcslow still starting

And regarding the defence bizarrely mavrapanos seems to be our best centre back right now.  Again id rather steve potts was there

Kilman is dogshit
Todibo's attitude is beyond awful
Mavrapanos positional sense is non existent

Let's hope igor isnt quite as bad

I want my CBs to win headers and tackles not glide around doing step overs. If that means Mavropanos and Igor then so be it.

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 11:30 The potts thing is as baffling as it is stupid.  Why play him all pre season then completely blank him.  Especially for jwp/Rodriguez (soucek is a different type of player so gets a pass on that... to a degree)

Frankly id have steve potts back instead of those 2 clowns.

You say (as do us all) that he HAS to play fernandes and mugassa.... but id put money on crab pass mcslow still starting

And regarding the defence bizarrely mavrapanos seems to be our best centre back right now.  Again id rather steve potts was there

Kilman is dogshit
Todibo's attitude is beyond awful
Mavrapanos positional sense is non existent

Let's hope igor isnt quite as bad

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 10:46

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 09:21 What really fucks me off is most teams know a good cdm is one of thr most important positions on the pitch.  We had rice and that carried us for a long time.  Alvarez did OK in his first season then fell off a cliff (mainly due to attitude)

Who was our cdm yesterday?  Neither jwp or soucek fit that role

It’ll be magassa within a game or two. It has to be. He showed like Fernandes more in a short spell after he came on and before I left the ground than the others showed in 20 matches. It HAS to be him Fernandes and Paqueta. I simply won’t understand Potter doing anything else unless something utterly mystifying is happening in training compared to matches. 

What is becoming an utterly bizarre loyalty to JWP is going to cost him his job. (Unless buying Hermansen does it first) I understood it last year to an extent because there were basically no credible alternatives between players who were shit or had downed tools and he was arguably the most reliable of a bad bunch but you can’t pick a player just because they are the ‘model pro’ or ‘first in and last out’ if that’s the case. We need the most talented players playing and that was muddy as to who it was last season. It’s clear it’s Magassa and Fernandes. I also don’t understand how Potts is just being completely ignored now after preseason. 

Id have more sympathy for the manager if I understood what he’s trying to do with his team selections in midfield or striker, but I just don’t half the time. Or like last season when he just had dross to pick from in midfield. Well now he’s got a couple of decent looking players at his disposal. 

I can’t get on him too much about central defence seen as none of those players are his fault and all Sullivan did was get in a Brighton reserve player. He’s saddled with absolute stinking shit at that position. He’s gone to a back four like everyone was baying for and they were still fucking awful. When a player you didn’t even trust to put on in a bad team last season above past it full backs at CB becomes your starter by default, you’re in big big trouble. Todibo will go the way of Aguerd and Alvarez. He just seems lazy unwilling and malevolent. Mav will go when someone half decent signs. Kilman, well he’s a stinking floater we won’t be able to flush for almost six more years. We are FUCKED at centre back. Need two starting quality players in January. 

Sullivan out. This is all his mess and poor decisions cone to a head. 

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 09:21 What really fucks me off is most teams know a good cdm is one of thr most important positions on the pitch.  We had rice and that carried us for a long time.  Alvarez did OK in his first season then fell off a cliff (mainly due to attitude)

Who was our cdm yesterday?  Neither jwp or soucek fit that role

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑14 Sep 2025, 07:53

Mad Dog" wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025, 23:54 Central park, were you watching a different game to me?

We were OK for abut 20 minutes then the noteh london scum gradually become the dominant team.  Their first one should have stood.  And that wasn't a penalty when someone touched paquetas back.  He always falls over fat too easily and refs dont give him much.

the sending off for me was a booking at most.  But i still think im watching 80s /90s football.  You go in studs up and catch the player, refs these days will send you off for that.

We were fucking shit, and I sadly cant see much changing any time soon.  Especially with midfield with 2 out of  jwp / soucek/rodriguez every fucking week.

Bollocks

He's just a Spurs fan/troll on a pure wind up. Suspect his time left on this site in this current guide will be....short.