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It will have been 16 days since we saw what football at the top end of things could look like by Arsenal, who made us look second class citizens in footballing terms.

This game is unusual this season, in so far as the bookies have us down as favourites to win.  Monday nigth, under the lights....but how empty will the bowl be.  With a boycott planned, kids for a quid, general sale tickets up for cheap, and Nuno's first home game, the atmosphere and attendance is anyone's guess.

Injuries wise, our Big Fucking German is big fucking injured again...reducing the options up front to the two Callum's.  Nuno chose to save ~86k in wages last time out, preferring the pace and mobility of Marshall over Wilson, and it will be interesting to see if he does the same thing here, or goes for a 'makeshift' centreforward.  And of course Soucek is back.

Other than that, there are no fresh concerns reported going into the weekend.

Predicted Starting Lineup: Subs: Hermansen, KWP, Igor, Potts, Guilherme, Marshall, Rodriguez, Wilson, Scarles

Predicted Score: 1-0 (Soucek)

COYI  

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 15:25 Rossknowsfuckall made to look a right cսnt!

Rossknowsfuckall made to look a right cսnt!

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 13:38 You'll have the Johnston's Paint in a few years 

You'll have the Johnston's Paint in a few years 

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 13:27

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:58

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:56

Soucek this season has contributed fuck all, there is no debating that. 

You've just done it again geez.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_ ... -wanderers

I've been talking about the league with him and Paqueta. Who cares about that game in all honesty. 

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:58

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:56

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:36

No I'm pointing out when he does do something good, it gets easily dismissed like it never happened. And it's happened often down the years which is why I feel the need to point out the times when he actually does contribtute. 

And I've compared them for the simple reason that I don't see half as much effort in cunting Paqueta off than Soucek gets when 1 has been contributing a lot more to the side. Tomas Scapegoat is the easy target though.

Soucek this season has contributed fuck all, there is no debating that. 

You've just done it again geez.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_ ... -wanderers

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:56

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:36

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:28

 

Soucek is a passenger as when players like Paqueta get the ball he doesn't show for it most the time. He hides, he isnt brave enough to get the ball in tight areas. Isn't technical enough to take it and progress up the pitch or break lines with a pass. CAnt run to get close to players, cant get back the right side of the ball. Its a complete mess when he plays. 

I don't rate Paqueta much either if you read the other threads, so comparing them two for me is pointless. 

You've gave one example where he nearly assisted Bowen with a simple 5 yard sideways pass.   He has more red cards than goals and assists this season. You are massively clutching at straws. 

No I'm pointing out when he does do something good, it gets easily dismissed like it never happened. And it's happened often down the years which is why I feel the need to point out the times when he actually does contribtute. 

And I've compared them for the simple reason that I don't see half as much effort in cunting Paqueta off than Soucek gets when 1 has been contributing a lot more to the side. Tomas Scapegoat is the easy target though.

Soucek this season has contributed fuck all, there is no debating that. 

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:36

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:28

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:22

Hang on, why can't Paqueta do his own running and passing, that's afterall what he's supposedly in the Team for? And yet it's Soucek who consistently bypasses his contributions in the side. Even this season he's only contributed to 1 less goal in all competitions and Paqueta takes all the Penalties scoring with 1 of them. Soucek doesn't get that luxury, all his goals come from elsewhere.

And you say he doesn't pass or contribute much else as a passenger (which isn't true), yet I gave clear example from the Brentford game where he got in the right position in a dangerous attacking area and assisted Bowen to almost score from our only effort on target. It gets overlooked but all his faults get amplified to the point we apparently play with "10 men" when he plays. 

 

Soucek is a passenger as when players like Paqueta get the ball he doesn't show for it most the time. He hides, he isnt brave enough to get the ball in tight areas. Isn't technical enough to take it and progress up the pitch or break lines with a pass. CAnt run to get close to players, cant get back the right side of the ball. Its a complete mess when he plays. 

I don't rate Paqueta much either if you read the other threads, so comparing them two for me is pointless. 

You've gave one example where he nearly assisted Bowen with a simple 5 yard sideways pass.   He has more red cards than goals and assists this season. You are massively clutching at straws. 

No I'm pointing out when he does do something good, it gets easily dismissed like it never happened. And it's happened often down the years which is why I feel the need to point out the times when he actually does contribtute. 

And I've compared them for the simple reason that I don't see half as much effort in cunting Paqueta off than Soucek gets when 1 has been contributing a lot more to the side. Tomas Scapegoat is the easy target though.

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:28

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:22

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:12 I do find him a bit of a phenomenon in that sense, I remember Everton away last season was absolutely useless that day then pops up with a cracking goal. 

He does pop up with a goal sometimes, but it seems to be getting less frequent. When he doesnt its just some headers and he is a passenger who we can't afford to carry. 

The team however would be better and PAqueta would be better to have someone who can run and pass and be more comfortable on the ball and allowing us to play through midfield. 

Hang on, why can't Paqueta do his own running and passing, that's afterall what he's supposedly in the Team for? And yet it's Soucek who consistently bypasses his contributions in the side. Even this season he's only contributed to 1 less goal in all competitions and Paqueta takes all the Penalties scoring with 1 of them. Soucek doesn't get that luxury, all his goals come from elsewhere.

And you say he doesn't pass or contribute much else as a passenger (which isn't true), yet I gave clear example from the Brentford game where he got in the right position in a dangerous attacking area and assisted Bowen to almost score from our only effort on target. It gets overlooked but all his faults get amplified to the point we apparently play with "10 men" when he plays. 

 

Soucek is a passenger as when players like Paqueta get the ball he doesn't show for it most the time. He hides, he isnt brave enough to get the ball in tight areas. Isn't technical enough to take it and progress up the pitch or break lines with a pass. CAnt run to get close to players, cant get back the right side of the ball. Its a complete mess when he plays. 

I don't rate Paqueta much either if you read the other threads, so comparing them two for me is pointless. 

You've gave one example where he nearly assisted Bowen with a simple 5 yard sideways pass.   He has more red cards than goals and assists this season. You are massively clutching at straws. 

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:22

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:12 I do find him a bit of a phenomenon in that sense, I remember Everton away last season was absolutely useless that day then pops up with a cracking goal. 

He does pop up with a goal sometimes, but it seems to be getting less frequent. When he doesnt its just some headers and he is a passenger who we can't afford to carry. 

The team however would be better and PAqueta would be better to have someone who can run and pass and be more comfortable on the ball and allowing us to play through midfield. 

Hang on, why can't Paqueta do his own running and passing, that's afterall what he's supposedly in the Team for? And yet it's Soucek who consistently bypasses his contributions in the side. Even this season he's only contributed to 1 less goal in all competitions and Paqueta takes all the Penalties scoring with 1 of them. Soucek doesn't get that luxury, all his goals come from elsewhere.

And you say he doesn't pass or contribute much else as a passenger (which isn't true), yet I gave clear example from the Brentford game where he got in the right position in a dangerous attacking area and assisted Bowen to almost score from our only effort on target. It gets overlooked but all his faults get amplified to the point we apparently play with "10 men" when he plays. 

 

I rated both Soucek and Coufal  during their first couple of seasons but not after that. I don't know if it's true that Covid played a role in Soucek's demise, but a player with such embarrassing limitations has  no business being in our first team.

I don't think its any coincidence that the only time we've played well under Nuno so far was away to Everton with no Soucek on the field

 

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:12 I do find him a bit of a phenomenon in that sense, I remember Everton away last season was absolutely useless that day then pops up with a cracking goal. 

He does pop up with a goal sometimes, but it seems to be getting less frequent. When he doesnt its just some headers and he is a passenger who we can't afford to carry. 

The team however would be better and PAqueta would be better to have someone who can run and pass and be more comfortable on the ball and allowing us to play through midfield. 

Metroplex wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:07 So you still think Soucek is the future? Laughable.

I do find him a bit of a phenomenon in that sense, I remember Everton away last season was absolutely useless that day then pops up with a cracking goal. 

He does pop up with a goal sometimes, but it seems to be getting less frequent. When he doesnt its just some headers and he is a passenger who we can't afford to carry. 

The team however would be better and PAqueta would be better to have someone who can run and pass and be more comfortable on the ball and allowing us to play through midfield. 

So you still think Soucek is the future? Laughable.

Metroplex wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 12:03 Soucek has a one man cult following. Anyone who thinks this team is ever going to evolve with that hopeless gimp on the pitch is deluded. 

Soucek has a one man cult following. Anyone who thinks this team is ever going to evolve with that hopeless gimp on the pitch is deluded. 

Metroplex wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 11:25

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 17:14

Metroplex wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 14:54

 

Soucek is just a God awful footballer.

Have you been in a coma these past 2 years? He's an embarrassment.

Playing in such a piss weak team just highlights his weaknesses and nullifies his strengths. The worse we are, the more of a liability he is. IF we had some serious legs in midfield, he'd be worth it but he's a luxury player at the moment.

Metroplex wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 11:25

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 11:14 Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison. 

Fuck me Mr Gormless has an official cheerleader 

Rossal wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 11:19

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 11:14 Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison. 

Not saying he hasnt been a great servant he has.  But for a while now his limitations have a huge negative effect on the team and our performances. 

We are talking about wanting to be a top half premier league team with a bloke that can't pass or run at its heartbeat. It just doesn't work. He wouldn't start for any other team in the league.  Hope he pops up with a goal if Nuno does the unthinkable tomorrow night and starts him otherwise what else is he contributing?   It will be 6 games 0 assists 0 goals and 1 red card. 

  

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 11:14 Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison. 

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 17:14

Metroplex wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 14:54

the exile" wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025, 14:25 Areola
KWP Mavro Kilman Diouf
Fernandes Magassa Paqueta 
Bowen Wilson Summerville 

Really hoping not to see Soucek back for this one. For me he represents the past and was a major factor in what was a failing midfield. 
I don't mind which of the Callums starts, but either way, I would hope the other one gets a good half hour. 

 

Soucek is just a God awful footballer.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑23 Oct 2025, 11:14 Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison. 

Tomas Scapegoat at West Ham -

251 apps - 42 goals - 13 assists - 55 goals made altogether at a rate of a goal every 4.5 games. 1 Trophy. 3 deep European Cup runs.

That's on top of all the battling hard work he clearly gets through with all the injuries he has sustained for our cause down the years to this present day when so many other players have gone hiding.

When called upon, he always stands up to be counted. 

It's true his passing is limited but that's never been his game, it's always about leaving that side of the game to others like Rice or Paqueta down the years. His job is to compete and win the ball and score whenever he can which is a healthy rate compared to so many others that have failed by comparison.