Nuno Out

[northbankfrank]

2,500 posts by the end of the season?

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

Further to Nuno agreeing to managing West Ham. It's worth remembering that it took a good week or so to agree too whilst Potter laid out all the cones, just like dead man walking Lopetegui when negotiating Potters contract persistently hovering in the background. What was most important to them was getting the contract length and value right above anything else. To me that says a lot. Sure they'll want to get a good contract it just comes across as being by far the most important. They aint in a hurry to take over, they're happy it's protracted even at the expense of the Football Club they could be managing as long as that lucrative contract is delivered.

Now when I think of other prospective managers who are willing to manage us regardless of contract length and value like Bilic it's because he deeply cares about this Football Club and just the kind of character you want fighting our corner within the Club. He was more than happy to agree to a short term 6 month deal if that's what it meant to manage us.

I think there's something in that and I appreciate they'll be others who will just say I'm overthinking it which is fair enough but it's what I feel about the situation. Something's off and doesn't sit right and I know who I'd want in the trenches giving their all for this Club. One to keep an eye on maybe..

Does Nuno really want to be here? Because if he does, he's got to start showing it.

I don't think you can blame any manager for wanting to make sure his contract is as good as possible, especially as we know Sullivan always low balls any kind of offer he makes and probably expects negotiations to take a while.

As for Nuno vs Bilic, one got a shit club into Europe and in the top 4 for most of last season, the other has become a journeyman manager in lower leagues who would take any Premier League job offered to him. Completely apples and oranges as to what they should be expecting from a contract offer.

I would have preferred Bilic on a short term deal myself but that's more because I don't like Nuno's style of football and never wanted him here.

[Massive Attack]

I would love to know what Kretinsky makes of all this? Not a dickey bird from him! I have heard of sleeping partners......but this cnut is in a fecking coma!

The 'Sphinx' is likely waiting for Sullivan to leave him a begging answer phone message about finally selling his shares to him..  

[Lato]

I would love to know what Kretinsky makes of all this? Not a dickey bird from him! I have heard of sleeping partners......but this cnut is in a fecking coma!

[threesixty]

My feeling now with Nuno is that he thinks he’s got more time to work things out than we think he actually has. 
I think he wants to play about with positions and then work out what he needs for the Jan window. 
A lot of the formations he’s tried sound like someone who’s playing with theory and not reality. He doesn’t think the team he had out there in his 1st two games is the answer to survive or progress this team. Thats why he’s immediately deviated soon as he got a chance too. 

I don’t know when he will wake up and realise the way this league is going, this particular season, these points you are dropping that are completely avoidable could cost us our premier league status. 

I sort of get the idea of doing the hard work and risk of working things out now rather than after Xmas makes some sense. But this is incredibly risky. 
 

[Massive Attack]

Further to Nuno agreeing to managing West Ham. It's worth remembering that it took a good week or so to agree too whilst Potter laid out all the cones, just like dead man walking Lopetegui when negotiating Potters contract persistently hovering in the background. What was most important to them was getting the contract length and value right above anything else. To me that says a lot. Sure they'll want to get a good contract it just comes across as being by far the most important. They aint in a hurry to take over, they're happy it's protracted even at the expense of the Football Club they could be managing as long as that lucrative contract is delivered.

Now when I think of other prospective managers who are willing to manage us regardless of contract length and value like Bilic it's because he deeply cares about this Football Club and just the kind of character you want fighting our corner within the Club. He was more than happy to agree to a short term 6 month deal if that's what it meant to manage us.

I think there's something in that and I appreciate they'll be others who will just say I'm overthinking it which is fair enough but it's what I feel about the situation. Something's off and doesn't sit right and I know who I'd want in the trenches giving their all for this Club. One to keep an eye on maybe..

Does Nuno really want to be here? Because if he does, he's got to start showing it.

[BoleynGone]

Maverick
As Carrick pointed out on MOTD.
The top 4 of Summerville,Wilson,Paqueta,Bowenon paper is as good as any in the bottom half .We shouldn't be struggling so much with those 4. He looked totally perplexed as to why we are where we are despite having Sullivan as Chairman.Let's be straight here Sullivan and Brady are the main cause of the problems.
But when every fan bar none can see is dumb founded by the line up last monday,tactics and subs. It could clearly be seen that it wasn't working. But Nuno went to a back 5 and subbed on Rodriguez.Zero minutes for Magassa or Potts. We weren't any better. (I'm adding this as I still can't believe what Nuno did ).
He then repeats the line up apart from Fernandes and KWP. Same "inverted full back" and midfield with no striker. After an even worse performance he waits to the 65 minute to make a unforced change. Those 20 minutes were crucial,as soon as Fernandes and Potts were on the pitch the temp rose,we looked much better. Nuno then used his last substitutes to go defensive when still losing. Marshall for Summerville would have been more attacking playing Marshall alongside Wilson and Bowen it would have given us needed energy.
I'm not sure if Robson is having much say in matters. it does look like he's waffling on on the touchline.never rated him,it was Potts and the other u21 coaches who got them to 2nd in the league when he went to help Moyes in what was a disaster tbh.
God knows what will happen against a dynamic Newcastle,it could be uglier than Sullivan naked.
 

[Massive Attack]

I honestly think the Sullivan family take it in turns to pick the team and Nuno is handed the team sheet. No sane manager picks those line ups let alone do it twice.

Got to stop making these excuses for Nuno. This is on him, these are his selections. The Sullivans or Brady are not picking these Teams.

[Swiss.]

Based in the last 2 team selections I can only imagine he’s already had enough and wants to be sacked. 

Fat Sam on speed dial? 

 

[GBHammer63]

Nail on head, cunts got no shame as proven with his recent choices. HowS&B aren’t park bench dossers is staggering.

[nychammer]

I honestly think the Sullivan family take it in turns to pick the team and Nuno is handed the team sheet. No sane manager picks those line ups let alone do it twice.

[Massive Attack]

I can’t believe he would have accepted the job on the basis of having to accept Sullivans picks of assistants. 

I could if he agreed to signing a lucrative 3 year contract...

[twoleftfeet]

I can’t believe he would have accepted the job on the basis of having to accept Sullivans picks of assistants. 

[Massive Attack]

If Nuno's old Staff aint installed by the next game and we lose then big questions will need to be asked of him and the Club why that isn't the case now they are all out of work twiddling their thumbs. If a manager really wants to be here, he'd demand they arrive especially when they are available now. It makes no sense to continue with the current yes men duds. Unless he aint fussed about the sack.

[Sir Alf]

A manager alone is not the problem but you’ve got to think if he picked the midfield we started with at Everton plus Potts and gave Wilson minutes in the last 2 games we might have got something?  

Our last 4 managers, owner and various recruitment and coaching appointments have all prioritised experience, past reputations over speed and athleticism both for team selection and recruitment?  Can someone try to rationalise it by playing devils advocate or something as I cant find any reason, even minor for why ?    I heard Carlton Cole saying it might be to protect Potts, Magassa but that sounds like a wild, desperate defence since Scarles was thrown in and out of position.  

Is it that the senior ( older / slow  ) players like Soucek, Irvine, JWP and Guido showed a better understanding in the gentle training sessions of what Nuno required and previously Potter and Loppy?  

I mean these geezers get paid millions to know better but when every fan is saying start the younger lads with more pace, agility etc then you have to conclude they are all incompetent, fraudsters?  I wonder in Nuno’s case, like Moyes telyimg heavily on Alan Irvine, if his coaches are actually the tactical brains?  

“Sullivan Effect” struck yet again if so because he supposedly insisted on promoting within to avoid the cost of taking on Nuno’s coaching team?  I mean its pennies compared to relegation but the epitomy of why Sullivan and Brady are not fit to be involved in amy aspect of running the club. 

“no more BS”

[Massive Attack]

Took Frank 10 games to get a win at Brentford 

Nuno, will come good.




 

It took him 4 games to win his first in the Championship with a lot less pressure and more time to get a perennial lower League Club going. Nuno cannot afford to wait 10 games to get his first in the Premier League, especially after his favourable run of opening fixtures. He'd be rightly kicked out the Club if it got that bad. He needs to win 1 in the next 3 or he could be done here and he'd have no qualms.

[honky cat]

The only thing we havent tried is dropping kilman. Give macrapanos and todibaked a go at CB. 

[yngwies Cat]

Took Frank 10 games to get a win at Brentford 

Nuno, will come good.
 

[Far Cough UKunt]

Who scouted all these fucking duds, Stevie Wonder?

[southbankbornnbred]

Nobody will be asking for Igor once you’ve watched him play a few games. He’s terrible.

[BerlingtonBertie]

Agreed. Areola has regressed and would get in no other Premier league team. Cant believe we wasted all that dough on that little bloke from Leicester - fucking criminal 

[Massive Attack]

Good point about Fabianski being brave enough to try and come for crosses at set pieces. I'd give him a go. What a sad state of affairs though.

[GBHammer63]

Whatever team selection, the best way to relieve the pressure on the iffy defence would be to set the fucking team up to attack and not do what they’re fucking iffy doing, I’d also put Fab in goal, for two reasons, he’s the calmest keeper we have so might reassure that iffy defence and he looks the most adept at fucking catching the ball from corners (which as sure as eggs are eggs) is what Eddie Howe and Scott Parker are going to tell their teams to play for.
i think we’re already fucked, but these 2 games are more than crucial, stay in touching distance and who knows, get cut off and everyone knows.

[Come On You Irons]

Is Kilman actually better than Macropanos?  Serious question.

Can we really do worse then trying Mav and Igor at the back?

No, he's not. Mavrapanos is our best centre half. That's how shit the others are.

However, isn't Mavrapanos out injured? If he's fit for Newcastle it's Mavrapanos and Igor the Brazilian at centre back for me. Kilman and the mardy French mercenary cսnt both need dropping.

Team sabotaging No hope Nuno the numpty would never dream of doing what needs to be done though.

[Massive Attack]

Is Kilman actually better than Macropanos?  Serious question.

Can we really do worse then trying Mav and Igor at the back?

Macropanos was a genuine typo - but it made me laugh so I'll leave it there.

A couple more posts he could end up being called Micropenis.

[scott_d]

Is Kilman actually better than Macropanos?  Serious question.

Can we really do worse then trying Mav and Igor at the back?

Macropanos was a genuine typo - but it made me laugh so I'll leave it there.