Premier league - worlds best league.

[twoleftfeet]

Is it?

5-2
5-2
3-0
1-1
1-1

impressive set of results over 2 evenings.

whoops forgot the 1-0 Liverpool result. 

[threesixty]

Feels like so many of you didn’t go to school or something. Comprehension is poor!

I said specifically Champions League. In the last 10 years, Spanish teams have won it 6 times! The PL has far more money than all the other leagues yet has won it 3 times in that period and 2 of those finals were two PL sides competing against each other. 

Man City just about got past Inter with a wonder goal from Rodri. 

The point is at the very top of the football tree the playing style matters as well as the money. 

More interestingly, in the last few years we are seeing a PL that is more reliant on set plays, long throws, crowding out keepers at corners etc. tactics that work very well in the PL but I don’t think translate at the highest level. 

I also think peps team has changed its style and no longer dominates the possession with players like silva and aguero in the same way. I think he’s adapted to make City more competitive in the PL but it doesn’t look like it’s working at the highest level in the CL. 

For Chelsea, city, Liverpool and arsenal to have such disappointing results at the same time says a lot. It can’t be just a coincidence. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

You're overlooking one key, non-football driven absolute fact here. Red.

The two most successful (and well marketed) teams in English football both wear red.

Red in East & South East Asia is an auspicious, lucky colour, ingrained into their culture. In their eyes - the eyes of people willing to hand over good money, Liverpool & Manchester United were/are successful because they wear red, not because they have the best players, managers and recruitment processes. Those follow (naturally) because they wear red. They wear red and that's the end of it.

If you've spent time in any of those regions (over and above going on a package tour/running through during your gap year/being a sex tourist) you'd appreciate this.

Once Sky tapped into that (red-driven) market, the money train (for the PL) set off and shows no sign of slowing. Arsenal, you ask? Never interested in east & south east Asia.

Cardiff is it? Play traditionally in blue, called the Bluebirds and their (new) Malaysian owner wanted them to change to a red strip for "luck and prosperity". Wasn't quite rich or powerful enough to pull that one off though.

Perhaps someone will be kind enough to remind me/us what other successful CL teams play in red - could shoot my argument down in flames; I'm having one of those days .

[Takashi Miike]

360, you don't half talk a load of clueless old fanny.

English teams have won 3 out of the last 7 Champions League finals, with 3 different teams!

English teams have had 3 winners and 4 runners up in the last 8 finals. No other nation had more than 3 finalists in these years.

In 2019 and 2021 both finals were all English, as were the Europa League finals in 2019 and 2025.

In direct contrast to the absolute bollocks you came out with, English teams have actually dominated Europe in recent years.

even us and those spurs mugs managed to win a european trophy, 360 is a clown

[John Drake]

If you looked at the last 10 years, then the conclusion would be that Spanish clubs dominated the Champions League with 6 wins to England’s 3. 

The Premier League generates far higher revenues than any other league – almost twice as much as La Liga – but the money is spread around more widely. For that reason, the Premier League has financial strength in depth and is always likely to dominate the Europa League and Conference. 

A recent phenomenon is that English clubs have been knocked from the top of the rich clubs list with Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern and PSG all generating more revenues than the best performing English club (Liverpool in 2025). I wonder if the top English clubs will be looking for a larger slice of EPL pie in order to address this?

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

360, you don't half talk a load of clueless old fanny.

English teams have won 3 out of the last 7 Champions League finals, with 3 different teams!

English teams have had 3 winners and 4 runners up in the last 8 finals. No other nation had more than 3 finalists in these years.

In 2019 and 2021 both finals were all English, as were the Europa League finals in 2019 and 2025.

In direct contrast to the absolute bollocks you came out with, English teams have actually dominated Europe in recent years.

[threesixty]

I think prem teams will always find it hard to win the CL because the league is tuned differently to the other leagues.  It’s a more physical league here so you have to build a team that can deal with that week in week out. Then after that you’ve got to deal with teams who play more technically in their own leagues and a ref in the CL who enforces a more technical game. 

So PL teams just get unstuck at the latter stages as the style of play in Spain etc just suits CL style more. 

maybe Liverpool had a perfect balance with Klopp when Mane/Salah was running things because it sort of had everything. Speed, technical ability and hard tackles etc. but that takes its toll. 

Just look at the crap refs are allowing in the PL with corners these days. No way is anyone getting away with that in the CL at higher levels. 

The thing is the PL “product” sells internationally,  maybe because it is that different to the other European leagues in terms of intensity etc. But at the moment I think the style of the league will mean the money spent at the big clubs will not turn into consistent CL success. 

 

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

Just had a look at Valverde's goals. That's a hat trick any player would be extremely proud of. Great finishes.

Yeah, I watched the game. Great goals, especially considering that he's not usually much of a goal scorer. He actually doubled his tally for this season with that hat trick, having only scored 3 in 38 games until last night.

[El Scorchio]

Just had a look at Valverde's goals. That's a hat trick any player would be extremely proud of. Great finishes.

[BoleynGone]

Interesting that Monaco,7th in Ligue 1 beat PSG last Friday having lost to them in the Qulaifying Round.
More interesting is PSG got their weekends game postponed against Nantes to concentrate on the CL. I am surprised that Ligue 1 just didn't give them a 5-0 victory. How that was allowed is surely against UEFA rules, thought you could only postpone a game due to mass injuries, not even a dodgy Lasagne could get you off the hook. Even more suprised that Chelsea didn't protest,maybe they have let it lie to the actual result of the first game and then get their lawyers protesting like mad.

[Mike Oxsaw]

The Premier league has descended into Wrestlemania and we’ve seen Bournemouth & Brentford recently who have the long throw as their chief means of attack
Watched a bit of PSG last night & it was a pleasure to see some proper skilful attacking football 
I hope they win the Champions league

The PL has all gone a bit Harlem Globetrotters, really, and anyone who pulls out the odd (and increasingly rare)  exciting PL match as some sort of proof that I am wrong rather emphasises my point.

But it serves it's purpose in syphoning money for the media & sponsors out of East & South-East Asia.

These are markets that still believe Man United are managed by Fergie and will continue to sweep all before them. The media have about 10 years to maximise this before the locals cotton on.

Local fans have no say, and that has long been the case.

[BoleynGone]

Kinda agree, might take a 3rd team though.
If we can beat a set piece team like Brentford then we can beat 3rd team Arsenal for sure.
 

[Fauxstralian]

The Premier league has descended into Wrestlemania and we’ve seen Bournemouth & Brentford recently who have the long throw as their chief means of attack
Watched a bit of PSG last night & it was a pleasure to see some proper skilful attacking football 
I hope they win the Champions league

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

But the Bundesliga has higher average attendances than the Premier League. 

Yeah. There's so much TV money in the Premier League that clubs with tiny grounds or low attendances like Bournemouth and Brentford can still compete financially. There are 10 clubs in the Championship with over 30k stadium capacities and more of them would be in the Premier League if TV money wasn't the main source of revenue.

[John Drake]

But the Bundesliga has higher average attendances than the Premier League. 

[the coming of gary]

The PL is the best in terms of its competitiveness. But there its superiority ends.

Isn't that exactly the reason it's the best because it has strength through out. Not just a few good teams.. It's easily the best 

Even 28th placed Derby County are in the top 50 attendances in Europe

Other countries cant match that

[fraser]

The PL is the best in terms of its competitiveness. But there its superiority ends.

Isn't that exactly the reason it's the best because it has strength through out. Not just a few good teams.. It's easily the best 

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The PL is the best in terms of its competitiveness. But there its superiority ends.

[Westside]

Is it?

5-2
5-2
3-0
1-1
1-1

impressive set of results over 2 evenings.

whoops forgot the 1-0 Liverpool result. 

 

 

How many other leagues have 6 teams in the Champions  League?

[XKhammer]

I actually want Arse to get to semis in this as same week we play them and hopefully won league as well...purely just to help us so they put out a second team 

[fraser]

It's not as entertaining but then again it wasn't as entertaining before that really entertaining spell. Like everything it has cycles I suppose and maybe it will be again soon. 

[BRANDED]

Love to see Chelsea, Spurs and Man City get thrashed. Good to see any of them lose. 

[Massive Attack]

It's also the fact that the era wasn't as over coached as it now is to the point some desperate Teams now employ Throw-In and Set-piece coaches to orchestrate and choreograph every fucking movement on a football pitch. Gone are the days when you could just sit back and enjoy plenty of off-the-cuff outstanding individualistic goals and that was in just 1 month like this such was the regularity of it!





I think Arsenal will just release a top 20 of the best Set-piece goals of the season to celebrate their season should they win the League after boring everyone to death in doing so.

[Manuel]

Agree that it's not as entertaining as it was 10-20 years ago, VAR, set pieces time-wasting etc, but still have some cracking games. I watched a little Championship football of late, now that's boring!

[Massive Attack]

Definitely nowhere near as good as it once was from around 1995-2005. It had it all back then and without the interference of VAR to cսnt it all up either. The entertainment, quality of Football and drama levels were off the charts compared to the often boring sanitised shit it's turned in to now by comparison. Sure rare moments of quality can still happen but compared to that era it doesn't come close as the complete package throughout the whole season.
*checks earpiece to see if I need to review my answer before losing the will to live* 🖥 

[John Drake]

Still the best league to watch 

 

 

No idea what league is the ‘best’ or what the criteria is, but I do find that Premier League games are mostly snoozefests these days. Too slow paced, technical and bogged down with tactics and shape. Individual flair having been replaced by organisation and athleticism. You do get the occasional good game, but too many are spoiled by play acting, general shithousery and a reliance on set pieces. 

It feels similar to the path that the once dominant Serie A took in the 1990s.