New UK rules for Expats who are Dual Citizens

[Sydney_Iron]

This is fucking madness

Thought i would post as a few expats on here, expect in the same boat as me!

The UK Government is introducing rules saying anyone Born in the UK who now lives overseas and has taken dual citizenship and passport of that country, can ONLY travel to the UK if they have a British passport! 

British and Irish dual citizens bear costly brunt of UK passport changes - ABC News

My UK passport expired in 2009 and as i had an Australian passport as well couldn't see the point in paying for 2, living this side of the world the Australian makes things easier, going to NZ and other regional countries visa free etc, but now if i want to come to the UK i need get a British passport again but as it expired so long ago the steps i need to take are fucking insane.

Be easier to go to France and get a Dinghy across the channel, may even get free hotel accommodation as well 

[Sydney_Iron]

Why would you want to come back syd?


 

In a word, family, most notably my ageing mother!

Otherwise wouldn’t bother going back, even London feels  a different city to me, the last of my family left a couple of years ago so have no connection anymore which is strange having grown up with extended family all around but slowly they all moved out

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Why would you want to come back syd?

The white working class have been displaced /replaced in our heartlands over the decades..(7% white in Upton park ward)...
Where will you go after  Essex /Surrey/Kent/Herts ?
 the tide is coming in fast in all those counties
This is the only land we have ..we have nowhere else to go.
 

[Mike Oxsaw]

This part is actually straightforward Sydders, I've seen vids online of the kiosks, it asks you do you have somewhere to stay, do you have enough funds to support your trip, do you have health insurance, do you have a return ticket - you just press yes to all of them and on you go, and of course scan your PP, have your photo taken and fingerprints of your 4 fingers on your right hand. The main purpose of it is to get your biometrics. It's good for 3 years.

Have to do this in May at City Airport hopefully queues won't be too bad then. 

Never any queues at LCY very convenient airport 

Cleaners never normally have to queue to start work.

[XKhammer]

Was also reading about this, even the airlines etc are kicking off about it! you have to answer question, many of which are confusing, provide proof or declare things like where you are staying, have enough money etc, then once done, you then procced to immigration control for a officer to then check the info!!!!!

This part is actually straightforward Sydders, I've seen vids online of the kiosks, it asks you do you have somewhere to stay, do you have enough funds to support your trip, do you have health insurance, do you have a return ticket - you just press yes to all of them and on you go, and of course scan your PP, have your photo taken and fingerprints of your 4 fingers on your right hand. The main purpose of it is to get your biometrics. It's good for 3 years.

Have to do this in May at City Airport hopefully queues won't be too bad then. 

Never any queues at LCY very convenient airport 

[XKhammer]

Makes complete sense to me.. Unfortunate for those refused entry though.. But surely before you travel anywhere you check. 

Why does it make sense to you?
If foreigners can pay 15 pounds for a travel thing in an application that takes no time, why can British Citizens travelling on a foreign passport not do the same? 
Really seems like bollocks to me.

This is simply the government/state administration trying to be seen to be doing something to "tackle" immigration.

The media will give it prominence if they want access to the next important government/state briefing.

Nothing to do with immigration its more about dosh
will have zero affect on immigration 
As for your media comment..you know when l said you only post utter bollocks?

[Mike Oxsaw]

British citizens unaware of new rules getting stuck abroad and unable to return home to the UK!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... onal-rules

Crazy stuff.

What gets me is it is easier for foreigners to travel to the UK with their foreign passport than it is for British citizens with a foreign passport!

How can that make sense?

Makes complete sense to me.. Unfortunate for those refused entry though.. But surely before you travel anywhere you check. 

Why does it make sense to you?
If foreigners can pay 15 pounds for a travel thing in an application that takes no time, why can British Citizens travelling on a foreign passport not do the same? 
Really seems like bollocks to me.

This is simply the government/state administration trying to be seen to be doing something to "tackle" immigration.

The media will give it prominence if they want access to the next important government/state briefing.

[Mex Martillo]

British citizens unaware of new rules getting stuck abroad and unable to return home to the UK!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... onal-rules

Crazy stuff.

What gets me is it is easier for foreigners to travel to the UK with their foreign passport than it is for British citizens with a foreign passport!

How can that make sense?

Makes complete sense to me.. Unfortunate for those refused entry though.. But surely before you travel anywhere you check. 

Why does it make sense to you?
If foreigners can pay 15 pounds for a travel thing in an application that takes no time, why can British Citizens travelling on a foreign passport not do the same? 
Really seems like bollocks to me.

[Sydney_Iron]

Think there was always going to be some who got caught out, it also wasn’t very well broadcast IMO

Here in Australia the UK government have decided for a limited time that ex pats can now use expired UK passports to enter the UK as long as they get the required entry requirements in their AUS/NZ passport.

And still waiting on my UK passport

[fraser]

British citizens unaware of new rules getting stuck abroad and unable to return home to the UK!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... onal-rules

Crazy stuff.

What gets me is it is easier for foreigners to travel to the UK with their foreign passport than it is for British citizens with a foreign passport!

How can that make sense?

Makes complete sense to me.. Unfortunate for those refused entry though.. But surely before you travel anywhere you check. 

[Mex Martillo]

British citizens unaware of new rules getting stuck abroad and unable to return home to the UK!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... onal-rules

Crazy stuff.

What gets me is it is easier for foreigners to travel to the UK with their foreign passport than it is for British citizens with a foreign passport!

How can that make sense?

[Mike Oxsaw]

Don’t cry
Its ok to like pseudo intellectual tosh

Yes, I guess I do look down on some people 
I think the idea of a ‘Royal family’ is a medieval anachronism that should have died out decades ago.
BUT a majority (albeit a declining majority) of the British people want to keep it so I accept that. Like you I’m sure believe the government is also in place by the choice of the people so accept their legitimacy 
And the flag (of England) has been hijacked by mouth breathing racists & fascists emboldened by Nazi Nigel 

The flag of England wasn't "hijacked" by anyone. The state willingly and pro-actively gave it away without so much as a whimper.

That same state entity show no interest in reclaiming the symbol of the nation for which they are paid to serve, so the people who do pay their wages through their taxes are putting themselves out, at their own personal expense, to do a job that the populations of no other country on the planet has to do.

[Far Cough UKunt]

The Woke is strong in this plastique.

[Fauxstralian]

Don’t cry
Its ok to like pseudo intellectual tosh

Yes, I guess I do look down on some people 
I think the idea of a ‘Royal family’ is a medieval anachronism that should have died out decades ago.
BUT a majority (albeit a declining majority) of the British people want to keep it so I accept that. Like you I’m sure believe the government is also in place by the choice of the people so accept their legitimacy 
And the flag (of England) has been hijacked by mouth breathing racists & fascists emboldened by Nazi Nigel 

[Takashi Miike]

Says the bloke wanting to be a pretentious Japanese hack 
ha ha 
As I said I’m not really Australian or English 
It seems to infuriate some that I’m not a supporter of the paedophile Royal family or keen on hanging flags on lampposts 

hack? no, he's made some great films. I've met and had genuine Aussie mates, none were remotely snobbish, self loathing or looked down on people (which just about covers every aspect of you). I fucking hate the royal family (german cunts, but not as much as having a President Blair) and the flag was hijacked long ago by those parasitic vermin in Westminster (watch any press briefing). 

[Gank]

Says the bloke wanting to be a pretentious Japanese hack 
ha ha 
As I said I’m not really Australian or English 
It seems to infuriate some that I’m not a supporter of the paedophile Royal family or keen on hanging flags on lampposts 

No, what is infuriating about you is that you don't want to be British, but want a British passport, don't want to pay for it and blame it on Brexit even though Brexit has nothing to do with you if you're not really British. Do us and yourself a favour, forget all this passport trouble and never enter this country.

[Mike Oxsaw]

No, later in the year you will be paying 20 Euros for a visa to enter Spain
Another Brexit dividend 

Surely that's far fairer than forcing every taxpayer in the UK to pay for such events, even if they never have and never will visit Spain?

[Fauxstralian]

No, later in the year you will be paying 20 Euros for a visa to enter Spain
Another Brexit dividend 

[honky cat]

I have an Irish passport as well which I use most of the time unless I'm going to England.. I was shocked to hear that uk passport holders have to scan fingerprints to enter Spain. Like WTF for a week in magaluf. I suppose in a few years time there will be no passports, just your fingerprint on a reader or iris scan. I'm sure the illegals will still be able to swan around as they please. 

[Swiss.]

Lucky I got my shinny blue one only last month as it was expiring in April and many countries inc Belgium won't let you in unless you have a least 3 months left on it. Entire process took less than 3 weeks and that is it being sent abroad. Very quick online. The photos have a code now and enter that and it's plain sailing. 

[Fauxstralian]

Says the bloke wanting to be a pretentious Japanese hack 
ha ha 
As I said I’m not really Australian or English 
It seems to infuriate some that I’m not a supporter of the paedophile Royal family or keen on hanging flags on lampposts 

[Takashi Miike]

"I decided the possession of a British passport was more advantageous given that I'm not Australian"

[Fauxstralian]

Was reading today that a Home Office spokesman said you might be able to use an expired British passport alongside your current FOREIGN one to prove that you can enter
That would be at the discretion of the carrier though 
That’s if you don’t want to pay for a new British one (£94?) or that certificate which is £569 I believe 

[fraser]

I decided the possession of a British passport was more advantageous given my life
I played by the rules and have no regrets
Having and paying for two passports is not needed
Obviously having a British passport in Europe is less advantageous now given the Brexit imbeciles 

I don’t really describe myself as English or Australian
As I grew up in Australia my first sporting exposure was to WA & Australian cricket so am hardly going to switch to the Kiwi controlled bacon & egg tie wearing chinless cunts & the Barmy Army dullards

Yep cause the average Aussie cricket fan is an intellectual not a beer soaked pissed redneck bogan wearing either Jack Daniels, Ford or Holden attire while wearing an empty KFC bucket as a hat. 
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[Fauxstralian]

I decided the possession of a British passport was more advantageous given my life
I played by the rules and have no regrets
Having and paying for two passports is not needed
Obviously having a British passport in Europe is less advantageous now given the Brexit imbeciles 

I don’t really describe myself as English or Australian
As I grew up in Australia my first sporting exposure was to WA & Australian cricket so am hardly going to switch to the Kiwi controlled bacon & egg tie wearing chinless cunts & the Barmy Army dullards

[fraser]

I'm reading about long delays of around 4 hours and potential mass-ag over the summer with this new entry/exit system for non-EU/EEA citizens travelling to Schengen countries. Meant to be in full-effect by April 9.

Anyone on here been caught up in this nonsense yet?

Was also reading about this, even the airlines etc are kicking off about it! you have to answer question, many of which are confusing, provide proof or declare things like where you are staying, have enough money etc, then once done, you then procced to immigration control for a officer to then check the info!!!!!

This part is actually straightforward Sydders, I've seen vids online of the kiosks, it asks you do you have somewhere to stay, do you have enough funds to support your trip, do you have health insurance, do you have a return ticket - you just press yes to all of them and on you go, and of course scan your PP, have your photo taken and fingerprints of your 4 fingers on your right hand. The main purpose of it is to get your biometrics. It's good for 3 years.

Have to do this in May at City Airport hopefully queues won't be too bad then.