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Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:35fraser wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:33Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:26Paqueta also played in the 1-5 home defeat to Chelsea, the 0-2 home defeat to Liverpool, the 0-3 away defeat at Sunderland, the 0-3 home defeat to Tottenham. Etc., etc., etc.So did the rest of the team so again you're talking bollocksYou're a bit dumb aren't you. My very point is that Paqueta didn't play in a bunch of games West Ham didn't lose.
Yep and we also didn't lose or won the previous times we played the same opposition with him in the team therefore the results didn't improve..
We didn't lose against Bournemouth but we won the previous two with him playing, see how fucking ridiculous your proof is, I'm the dumb one really
We didn't lose against Bournemouth but we won the previous two with him playing, see how fucking ridiculous your proof is, I'm the dumb one really
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fraser wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:33Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:26Paqueta also played in the 1-5 home defeat to Chelsea, the 0-2 home defeat to Liverpool, the 0-3 away defeat at Sunderland, the 0-3 home defeat to Tottenham. Etc., etc., etc.So did the rest of the team so again you're talking bollocks
You're a bit dumb aren't you. My very point is that Paqueta didn't play in a bunch of games West Ham didn't lose.
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Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:26fraser wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:20Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:15The worst Premier League team in years was Southampton last season, not Leicester. Do try to make your arguments make sense if you wish to be taken seriously on here.They were pretty shit too.. What about your other "proof" that's all you've got cause it's bollocks... Tell us how well we played against Bournemouth without him as you did when slaughtering the team for being shit after the match.Paqueta also played in the 1-5 home defeat to Chelsea, the 0-2 home defeat to Liverpool, the 0-3 away defeat at Sunderland, the 0-3 home defeat to Tottenham. Etc., etc., etc.
So did the rest of the team so again you're talking bollocks
Again you've ignored me debunking your solid proof...
Again you've ignored me debunking your solid proof...
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fraser wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:20Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:15The worst Premier League team in years was Southampton last season, not Leicester. Do try to make your arguments make sense if you wish to be taken seriously on here.They were pretty shit too.. What about your other "proof" that's all you've got cause it's bollocks... Tell us how well we played against Bournemouth without him as you did when slaughtering the team for being shit after the match.
Paqueta also played in the 1-5 home defeat to Chelsea, the 0-2 home defeat to Liverpool, the 0-3 away defeat at Sunderland, the 0-3 home defeat to Tottenham. Etc., etc., etc.
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Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:15fraser wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:11Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 10:58Clear evidence there that we are a better and more solid team without the showboating, cheating, diving, samba dancing Brazilian liability.You slaughtered us for our display at Bournemouth... We also drew there last year with him in the team.. Leicester... The worst PL team in years and you think we won because he didn't play...
We did the double over man u last season with him
Yeah solid proofThe worst Premier League team in years was Southampton last season, not Leicester. Do try to make your arguments make sense if you wish to be taken seriously on here.
They were pretty shit too.. What about your other "proof" that's all you've got cause it's bollocks... Tell us how well we played against Bournemouth without him as you did when slaughtering the team for being shit after the match.
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fraser wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 11:11Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 10:58wils wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:46Yes, agreed he was excellent in that one game.
But if he was our best player this year it's not easy to see in the stats. We lost most of our games this year yet this is all the games he has missed in 2025 so far:
Arsenal 0-1 West Ham
West Ham 2-0 Leicester
Bournemouth 2-2 West Ham
Man United 1-1 West HamClear evidence there that we are a better and more solid team without the showboating, cheating, diving, samba dancing Brazilian liability.You slaughtered us for our display at Bournemouth... We also drew there last year with him in the team.. Leicester... The worst PL team in years and you think we won because he didn't play...
We did the double over man u last season with him
Yeah solid proof
The worst Premier League team in years was Southampton last season, not Leicester. Do try to make your arguments make sense if you wish to be taken seriously on here.
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Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 10:58wils wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:46Yes, agreed he was excellent in that one game.
But if he was our best player this year it's not easy to see in the stats. We lost most of our games this year yet this is all the games he has missed in 2025 so far:
Arsenal 0-1 West Ham
West Ham 2-0 Leicester
Bournemouth 2-2 West Ham
Man United 1-1 West HamClear evidence there that we are a better and more solid team without the showboating, cheating, diving, samba dancing Brazilian liability.
You slaughtered us for our display at Bournemouth... We also drew there last year with him in the team.. Leicester... The worst PL team in years and you think we won because he didn't play...
We did the double over man u last season with him
Yeah solid proof
We did the double over man u last season with him
Yeah solid proof
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wils wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:46Yes, agreed he was excellent in that one game.
But if he was our best player this year it's not easy to see in the stats. We lost most of our games this year yet this is all the games he has missed in 2025 so far:
Arsenal 0-1 West Ham
West Ham 2-0 Leicester
Bournemouth 2-2 West Ham
Man United 1-1 West Ham
Clear evidence there that we are a better and more solid team without the showboating, cheating, diving, samba dancing Brazilian liability.
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fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 19:29Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 19:22
No, I was told by someone else I was referring to that said he contributes close to almost all our goals, that's why I questioned it. And I didn't say he always gets suspended I said he keeps getting suspended because he just did again straight away after returning from a 5 yellow card suspension.But anyway take them away and we're possibly Wolves, so yes he isn't as good as he should be and should do better but why leave him and his contributions out when we need them?
Because I seriously question his state of mind for obvious reasons. I'm actually genuinely concerned for the bloke as he's clearly struggled and the last match he played he proved he couldn't keep it together when we can ill afford for it to happen. We lose that game scoring nothing he doesn't play the next difficult game away and we score and draw without him. I genuinely think both he and us would benefit if he was available on the bench. It would also send the right message to others that you have to earn your place back especially after how he badly reacted. It feels a bit soon to chuck him straight back in to the fold but hopefully it works out and we can beat Brighton. He's going to be back under intense pressure, let's hope he manages to cope alright.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 19:22fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 19:15Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 19:07Even if we added his 4 goals he scored to those 3 challenges for the ball as well as the other 2, that's still contributing half the total amount we've scored. And this is supposed to be a Club record signing creative attacking midfielder on £150,000 a week who keeps getting suspended.Only contributed to half the goals we've scored... Wtf... Take those goals away and where are we...
Always suspended 2 fucking games... Didn't Soucek get a 3 game ban..
No, I was told by someone else I was referring to that said he contributes close to almost all our goals, that's why I questioned it. And I didn't say he always gets suspended I said he keeps getting suspended because he just did again straight away after returning from a 5 yellow card suspension.
But anyway take them away and we're possibly Wolves, so yes he isn't as good as he should be and should do better but why leave him and his contributions out when we need them?
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fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 19:15Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 19:07Even if we added his 4 goals he scored to those 3 challenges for the ball as well as the other 2, that's still contributing half the total amount we've scored. And this is supposed to be a Club record signing creative attacking midfielder on £150,000 a week who keeps getting suspended.Only contributed to half the goals we've scored... Wtf... Take those goals away and where are we...
Always suspended 2 fucking games... Didn't Soucek get a 3 game ban..
No, I was told by someone else I was referring to that said he contributes close to almost all our goals, that's why I questioned it. And I didn't say he always gets suspended I said he keeps getting suspended because he just did again straight away after returning from a 5 yellow card suspension.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 19:07fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:38Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:32
So out of the 18 goals we've scored so far this season, how many was his involved in passing moves resulting in goals? I can only think of 2, 1 against Burnley and another against Newcastle. Beyond that I'm struggling to think of amy others regardless of him having the last touch to assist goals.I'm sure he was involved in all three goals against Forest...Even if we added his 4 goals he scored to those 3 challenges for the ball as well as the other 2, that's still contributing half the total amount we've scored. And this is supposed to be a Club record signing creative attacking midfielder on £150,000 a week who keeps getting suspended.
Only contributed to half the goals we've scored... Wtf... Take those goals away and where are we...
Always suspended 2 fucking games... Didn't Soucek get a 3 game ban..
Always suspended 2 fucking games... Didn't Soucek get a 3 game ban..
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wils wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:46Yes, agreed he was excellent in that one game.
But if he was our best player this year it's not easy to see in the stats. We lost most of our games this year yet this is all the games he has missed in 2025 so far:
Arsenal 0-1 West Ham
West Ham 2-0 Leicester
Bournemouth 2-2 West Ham
Man United 1-1 West Ham
I didn't say he was our best player this year, I said he contributes more than most but they don't get the stick he does. He gets the blame for everything but is one of our best performers and why he's straight back in the team... But what I do find bollocks is those claiming we're better without him and even bigger bollocks those saying he isn't a team player when he doesn't stop grafting.
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Probably if we didn’t spend most of every game with less possession then our opponents and not defending on our 18 yard line then he would have a lot better stats.
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fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:38Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:32
So out of the 18 goals we've scored so far this season, how many was his involved in passing moves resulting in goals? I can only think of 2, 1 against Burnley and another against Newcastle. Beyond that I'm struggling to think of amy others regardless of him having the last touch to assist goals.I'm sure he was involved in all three goals against Forest...
Even if we added his 4 goals he scored to those 3 challenges for the ball as well as the other 2, that's still contributing half the total amount we've scored. And this is supposed to be a Club record signing creative attacking midfielder on £150,000 a week who keeps getting suspended.
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Yes, agreed he was excellent in that one game.
But if he was our best player this year it's not easy to see in the stats. We lost most of our games this year yet this is all the games he has missed in 2025 so far:
Arsenal 0-1 West Ham
West Ham 2-0 Leicester
Bournemouth 2-2 West Ham
Man United 1-1 West Ham
But if he was our best player this year it's not easy to see in the stats. We lost most of our games this year yet this is all the games he has missed in 2025 so far:
Arsenal 0-1 West Ham
West Ham 2-0 Leicester
Bournemouth 2-2 West Ham
Man United 1-1 West Ham
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 18:32Gank wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 17:52Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:58The post said we absolutely missed him and gave clear evidence of not only that game but also his previous 58 games in a row where he doesn't contribute to a single assist, yet he is supposed to be our main creative attacking midfielder. And the fact we instantly got a very positive result and performance without him.
He hasn't contributed to any assists? He's contributed to almost ALL our assists! Close to every single one. If you only count his contributions if he's the very last player to touch the ball
So out of the 18 goals we've scored so far this season, how many was his involved in passing moves resulting in goals? I can only think of 2, 1 against Burnley and another against Newcastle. Beyond that I'm struggling to think of amy others regardless of him having the last touch to assist goals.
I'm sure he was involved in all three goals against Forest...
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Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 17:50fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:42Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:40 We missed a Winger and a Striker long before Paqueta.
I don't want him back in the team at all.
He is far to nonchalant.
Good riddance!He's starting SundayThe incompetence in and around the club is endless
Hà ha it is, but I would pick him every time.
It's all very well saying we played better without him (we didn't) we've won 2 lost 1 and drawn 2 of our last 5, he played in both the wins...didn't win either game he didn't play in.. Was motm against Newcastle, he has won the ball back and more duals than anyone in our team which makes him our best defensive player and he's our joint top goal scorer, but yeah he brings nothing to the table.
It's all very well saying we played better without him (we didn't) we've won 2 lost 1 and drawn 2 of our last 5, he played in both the wins...didn't win either game he didn't play in.. Was motm against Newcastle, he has won the ball back and more duals than anyone in our team which makes him our best defensive player and he's our joint top goal scorer, but yeah he brings nothing to the table.
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Gank wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 17:52Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:58The post said we absolutely missed him and gave clear evidence of not only that game but also his previous 58 games in a row where he doesn't contribute to a single assist, yet he is supposed to be our main creative attacking midfielder. And the fact we instantly got a very positive result and performance without him.
He hasn't contributed to any assists? He's contributed to almost ALL our assists! Close to every single one. If you only count his contributions if he's the very last player to touch the ball
So out of the 18 goals we've scored so far this season, how many was his involved in passing moves resulting in goals? I can only think of 2, 1 against Burnley and another against Newcastle. Beyond that I'm struggling to think of amy others regardless of him having the last touch to assist goals.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:58fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:56Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:53And yet having started him against a seriously out of form Liverpool side at Home having just returned from suspension already in the very same match, he got himself moronically sent off and we then went on to concede another without contributing anything losing 0-2. Then in his absence the Team with rock bottom confidence immediately managed to earn a well earned 1-1 draw at Old Trafford of all places. We didn't miss him at all, a player who couldn't assist a suicidal Ian Watkins from dying. 58 consecutive matches now.By that metric we wouldn't have missed any of them that played against Liverpool because we were shit and lost 2-0The post said we absolutely missed him and gave clear evidence of not only that game but also his previous 58 games in a row where he doesn't contribute to a single assist, yet he is supposed to be our main creative attacking midfielder. And the fact we instantly got a very positive result and performance without him.
That's nonsense from computer game football. He hasn't contributed to any assists? He's contributed to almost ALL our assists! Close to every single one. If you only count his contributions if he's the very last player to touch the ball then almost all of our players are shit and would also explain your love for Soucek who does next to nothing compared to Paqueta but does get occasional all important touches.
I was there on Sunday and loved watching him, he put a lot of work in and although he tries a lot of killer balls far too advanced for his mediocre team mates and loses the ball, he puts the graft into trying to get it back. Also love his back heeled no look passes and flicking it over a defender onto his own head to volley a near miss. With Kudus gone, he's the only player we have left who can get us excited.
Was he an idiot for getting sent off? Yes. Would a proper captain have prevented it? Probably. Is he our best player? By a mile. (Although Fernandes was on that day)
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fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:42Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:40 We missed a Winger and a Striker long before Paqueta.
I don't want him back in the team at all.
He is far to nonchalant.
Good riddance!He's starting Sunday
The incompetence in and around the club is endless
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We don't only miss the good bits when he's not playing for us. We also miss the bad things too. I would say his presence undermines the fortitude and grit of the team and it's that which got us a draw.
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fraser wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:56Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:53And yet having started him against a seriously out of form Liverpool side at Home having just returned from suspension already in the very same match, he got himself moronically sent off and we then went on to concede another without contributing anything losing 0-2. Then in his absence the Team with rock bottom confidence immediately managed to earn a well earned 1-1 draw at Old Trafford of all places. We didn't miss him at all, a player who couldn't assist a suicidal Ian Watkins from dying. 58 consecutive matches now.By that metric we wouldn't have missed any of them that played against Liverpool because we were shit and lost 2-0
The post said we absolutely missed him and gave clear evidence of not only that game but also his previous 58 games in a row where he doesn't contribute to a single assist, yet he is supposed to be our main creative attacking midfielder. And the fact we instantly got a very positive result and performance without him.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑05 Dec 2025, 15:53And yet having started him against a seriously out of form Liverpool side at Home having just returned from suspension already in the very same match, he got himself moronically sent off and we then went on to concede another without contributing anything losing 0-2. Then in his absence the Team with rock bottom confidence immediately managed to earn a well earned 1-1 draw at Old Trafford of all places. We didn't miss him at all, a player who couldn't assist a suicidal Ian Watkins from dying. 58 consecutive matches now.
By that metric we wouldn't have missed any of them that played against Liverpool because we were shit and lost 2-0
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And yet having started him against a seriously out of form Liverpool side at Home having just returned from suspension already in the very same match, he got himself moronically sent off and we then went on to concede another without contributing anything losing 0-2. Then in his absence the Team with rock bottom confidence immediately managed to earn a well earned 1-1 draw at Old Trafford of all places. We didn't miss him at all, a player who couldn't assist a suicidal Ian Watkins from dying. 58 consecutive matches now.