Electric cars

[JimmyT]

"Brilliant, aren’t they? Leasing an MG4 at the moment. Apart from one or two minor gripes, it’s absolutely fantastic. I’ll never go back to an ICE car. Any of you lot drive an EV? What’s your experience with them?"

[Dwight Van Mann]

"at least an old VW Golf gti doesn't try to kidnap you even if the driver is a pisshead... ""I was kidnapped by my runaway electric car: Terrified motorist, 53, reveals his new £30,000 MG ZS EV 'began driving itself' after suffering 'catastrophic malfunction' - forcing him to dial 999 and crash it into a police van to get it to stop"" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12592047/Driver-kidnapped-electric-car-Glasgow.html"

[RoyalDocksGK]

Tesla drivers are cunts. That is all.

[Norflundon]

chim chim cha boo 4:57 Sun Sep 24 Re: Electric cars That is complete and utter bollox whoever told you that is winding you up losing that much charge on your phone. If I have my air con on for 200 miles it knocks 5 miles off And 45mins to charge it I only ever do that if I’m somewhere where there’s a charger like my local Asda has a a super charger in the petrol station opposite even if I’m in there for 10mins getting milk and bread it sticks on over 100miles. It would only need that long if you were on zero and wanted to go to 100% They definitely aren’t for everyone and most aren’t suitable if you drive very long distances regularly although sone have very long ranges equal to petrol motors. They are far cheaper to run as long as you have a charger at home. The tax breaks if you can get it as a company along with my fuel saving mean I have a pretty expensive car for free Living in London it’s insanity to get a petrol car if you can afford one and you live in a house or a flat with a charger station

[aldgate]

I've leased a Tesla 3 for more than 4 years now. I have a garage and home charger which makes a massive difference. Relying on nearby chargers is a pain even in central London. I don't drive massive distances but have seen charger queues on longer trips which is annoying.I used to have a classic 80s Merc so the Tesla was a big change. It's fantastic to drive and rapid like all electric cars.I'm sure they will become the norm in cities as charging is improved but still not totally there yet if you have a long commute/can't charge at home.

[1964]

This is enough to put you off https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12555513/Electric-car-EXPLODES-driveway-sets-fire-Merseyside-family-home-battery-malfunctions.html

[Malayammer]

"I bought the Audi Q4 ( would love the new Q8) but the Q4 is perfect . I’m not convincing anyone either way , the merits are entirely dependent on your driving requirements. If for work reasons you may have regular unplanned journeys then I can understand a bit of anxiety but for every day use it beats petrol cars hands down . We have a fast charger at home with a charger timed for cheap rate overnight so every morning wake up with a range of 330 Miles on the clock ( all the rubbish about turning the radio on , charging the phone Etc is complete bollocks . It loses about a mile or 2 !!!) . I admit aircon reduces the range by about 10%. Long journeys are easy with range , there’s not many times you drive 300 miles without wanting a break and even if you happen to be in a hurry you can just do a 10,20 or 30 minute top up . I think in nearly one year now I can honestly say there has been only one time where a little bit of “ range anxiety “ set in but in the end with the use of the Audi app just meant a slight diversion to top up . Cost wise if charging at home it’s about 30% of our petrol car , rapid charges on the road are quite ‘ expensive’ but still around 50% cheaper . Like I say may not suit everyone but I love it and for everyday use and a charger at home it would be impossible not to admit the merits over a petrol car ."

[chim chim cha boo]

"It's really interesting to see my peers (said grudgingly) and THEIR EXPERIENCE with the electric cars they've bought or leased with their own money and I am not even being sarcastic. It's simply a subject I know nothing about and these posts are quite enlightening. I've never owned a car but borrowed many and when it came to buying a motorcycle I felt compelled to buy the one with the biggest engine in any production bike, knowing that I will have owned the last great petrol fueled dinosaur before biking gets neutered by emissions testing. God bless the Triumph Rocket 3R in phantom black with a Competition Werkes tuned pipe and a spell on a race dyno giving 178BHP at the back wheel and 221 newton metres of torque. The swan song of bikes generally."

[Pagey]

"I’ve got an electric car with work as it makes sense for tax purposes, but I would rather have a petrol car again as it just leads to unnecessary grief. Having to charge it continually for one, long journeys are a huge pain, waiting like a prick for a charger to be available, waiting like a prick for it to charge, worrying if you have enough mileage to make it somewhere at times. Who needs that crap?! Luckily I get by on the full charge at home usually, but even the odd bit of grief is just pointless grief. Imagine an emergency where you need to get somewhere quickly but don’t have enough mileage? Fuck that."

[joyo]

"goose will you stop it,your last 2 posts l totally agree with I have zero intention of buying electric car,too expensive and bollocks to stopping on long trip to charge up maybe twice waiting 45mins to charge if you can find a charging point"

[zebthecat]

The main issue I have with car ownership and carbon footprints is the turnover in ownership. Yes I know someone else will have your car after the initial lease is over but it doesn't sit right. I have never bought a new car (the closest was the Skoda which I bought from the dealer and it was their demonstrator car so it was ludicrously cheap). I am pushing sixty and have owned six cars and have run them until they become too expensive to keep on the road. Sort of with you on the 93 bruuno. I love mine but it was pretty sorted when got it four years ago (2.0T Aero). Both front springs snapped last year which was annoying but not that pricey a fix. Also had one of the hydraulic roof rams go pop just after I bought it but I have used the same Saab specialist (fivw of my 6 cars have been Saabs) to take care of mine for year and they sourced a reconditioned one for not a lot. The 93 vert is keeper. Also had it remapped (£90) so it goes like the clappers If I want it to.

[twoleftfeet]

Bruno. Yep £375 a month I had a Mercedes AMG220d company car and the tax was horrendous.

[nerd]

"The good people of Aberdeenshire won't so happy with EVs when they lost power for over a month in many areas last year . Then there is electric storms caused by sunspots , this has affected a number of cities world wide ,the met office now reports on them as we come more reliant on tech . A standard car is a Faraday cage in a lightning strike ,a plastic one full of chips is not and sadly due to the way the cars are built full of gadgets you need the chips more and more , they are not built to run with out them and could be. Strip an Ev to basics, make sure it can generate surplus power , sola ,wind and motion then I'm in . Till then I'll wait till hydrogen etc and this farce ends in the next few years it's just moving your carbon waste to somewhere else . The production of these cars is a disgrace but hey not on my doorstep , we are carbon neutral where the Chinese don't care and happy to mine this crap causing more pollution."

[bruuuno]

"twoleftfeet 11:28 Sun Sep 24 Re: Electric cars Did you mean to write £375 a year in tax? Who pays that much a month? I cgaf about carbon footprints - I live in the middle of city close to a main road and all electric can’t come soon enough for my lungs imo. Zeb - fellow 93 owner here, I love mine although am finding it pricey to maintain, so about 20k a year in it"

[goose]

100% bungo. Electric cars are not the answer.

[Bungo]

"Surprised that there isn't more discussion generally about synthetic fuels. Still in early stages, but if they could be produced at an acceptable cost in sufficient quantity, and with an acceptable level of carbon-neutrality, then should be lots of benefits in using existing vehicles and existing fuel stations etc. Worth keeping an eye on? https://www.cinch.co.uk/guides/ask-the-experts/synthetic-fuels-the-way-forward-or-just-a-dead-end"

[twoleftfeet]

"I got a Skoda Enyaq about 4 months ago and fucking love it. Fantastic car, good range and plenty of places to charge it up. Best of all gives me an extra £375 a month in my pocket due to the tax. Happy days."

[iphammer]

Dangerous on the roads- Can catch fire any minute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWvI1daNils Cost the same amount of £ per mile as a diesel car Very quiet and a danger to those who are slightly deaf Bad for the environment when you think about Lithium mining https://tinyurl.com/2v5pkwnd https://images.app.goo.gl/hraXUX2cRXUwiCS26

[iphammer]

Dangerous on the roads- Can catch fire any minute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWvI1daNils Cost the same amount of £ per mile as a diesel car Very quiet and a danger to those who are slightly deaf Bad for the environment when you think about Lithium mining https://tinyurl.com/2v5pkwnd https://images.app.goo.gl/hraXUX2cRXUwiCS26

[onsideman]

"I lease a new car every 3 years. For the last 3 renewals I've looked at electric but price-wise its no closer to being affordable now than it was 6 years ago. That's the first hurdle and it can't even get over that, never mind range and infrastructure."

[1964]

"I'll stick with petrol thanks. Makes me laugh when you see vans and the like with ""100% electric"" on the back as if it's something to be proud of. I'm going to get a sticker to put on mine ""100% Petrol"""

[TonkaToy]

"If someone gave me one, I'd give it away. The term 'Emperors New Clothes' was made for these. I get 490 mile from my current Ford, it takes me a few minutes to refill, and no need to panic when I get to the red line as I know a Petrol station will be round the corner in a few miles. Even wonder about the impact on the planet for replaceing. millions of serviceable cars, the resources to make, transport and install a new charging infrastructure, generating the millions of KW of extra juice.... Nope maybe you haven't seen all of the sums yet.. Plus the resale price, and cost of replacement batteries, 75% or more people in this country can't currently afford one, and a large percentage don't have space or facility to home charge. Keep yours, be happy with it, but not for me..."

[RBshorty]

Cars for people with money too burn. Small penises. And little imagination. ie: Hipster’s. The power companies moan like fuck now. When everyone puts the kettle at half time during an England match. It ain’t going to be anywhere close to coping. At 18:00 when everyone gets home. And puts the old “Jam Jar.” On charge.!

[chim chim cha boo]

"I've got a great pal who I sat with for twenty plus years at UP. He moved to Bury St Edmunds and got a Motorbility car, a Vauxhall something or other and he FUCKING HATES IT. It's more money to run than his last car, chargers are thin on the ground in Suffolk and are more likely to be broken than work. If he wants to drive his motor he has to sit at the charging point for at least 45 minutes instead of the five he'd spend at the petrol pump and if he winds the windows down it takes his battery down to 95%, plugs his phone in and listens to the radio and if he goes and visits his mum in Barking it entails a one hour stop to juice the car back up again. In short, he fucking HATES it."

[Eerie Descent]

"Yes Jim, I bet a brand new electric car is brilliant. Bully for you. Not so great for the poor fuckers who can't afford a brand new car."

[FatboyChelseaScum]

"zebthecat I get that they're good, i just cant see how they're going to ever be a long term solution to the millions who love their cars and want to keep them for years, such as enthusiasts like me etc. They can promise 80% battery at 100,000k, but i dont know how they can guarantee that. My Cupra is now 15 1/2 years old and currently on 92k. Granted, its now my weekend toy, rather than my daily driver - i have a 2020 Jaguar XF, which ill keep for quiet a few years yet, but i can't see any manufacturer taking a call from a 15 year old electric car owner complaining about battery life depletion and honouring that guarantee. I honestly think electric cars are a knee-jerk solution and better solutions and infrasturcture will be developed and become the actual ICE replacement. Hydrogren fuel cell cars, have potential for example. I just think theres still a huge amount of people that would rather own their car and will shun electric cars because of the concern of the long term viability and worries about depreciation when there are examples of people with huge battery replacement bills etc."