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The Notting Hill Carnival
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- Hammer and Pickle
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The Notting Hill Carnival
“Like Cape Canaveral only with a lot more brothers” Sasha Cohen Always a great day out if you know how to handle yourself. Best act this time?
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"Well, it gives a clearer picture of its contribution to London than the Mayor’s attempts to dazzle people with numbers that make a weekend of ‘carnival’ worth about as much as one of Declan RICE’s legs, at the very top end of its estimates. As it happens, used to go quite a lot when I worked up that way and quite enjoyed it; but I wouldn’t have economics near the top of it’s list of benefits – nor does anything that happens there align with any of the Mayor’s green initiatives, the place is like a bomb site afterwards. For most people its just a bit of fun. Ruined by cunts, like most things."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"Steward has made a fair point, Twundle. You, on the other hand, are a last-week’s lettuce side-salad bellend and really have nothing sensible to say on the matter at all. Oh and if I feel like doing a match thread, I’ll do one. Remarkable how, after all these years, these basic things have to be explained to you."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"Indeed. Probably only a wide-ranging study on a representative sample of participating Council and business’ books would give us a reliable picture of the event’s net worth. As for the important context of London’s GDP, we need to distinguish different types of economic activity because lumping together financial services, rents and property transactions with entertainment and services doesn’t really give us a clear picture. Unless of course you’d like to score points about the cost of the incidents of violent crime…"
- Lee Trundle
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"Well firstly, you'd need to net off the associated costs to get a sense of worth. Those are noticeably absent. Second, it's somewhat crass of the London mayor to try to put a price on the value of sexual assault and violent crime. But perhaps most importantly, Londons GDP is 508 billion pounds. So at £54 million, the top end estimate of the range and not including costs, the notting hill carnival contributes a whopping 0.0001%."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"Despite the Section 60 curfew, there is one detail that may be worth taking into account: “The Impact of Major Events on London’s Economy 2017-20, an independent report produced in 2021 by professional services firm Hatch and London & Partners, stated “it is estimated that every visit to a concert or cultural event generated an average £23 to the London economy”; specific market research at the 2018 Notting Hill Carnival found an average additional spend of £54 per carnival goer. With estimates of 1 million carnival attendees, this research shows that Notting Hill Carnival contributes between £23m and £54m per year to the London economy, based on attendees alone, but is expected to be much higher through indirect impacts from the promotion of London nationally and internationally.” https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/notting-hill-2 All you have to do is take it on board. Just breath."
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- Mike Oxsaw
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The Notting Hill carnival was largely peaceful in the same way the Rochdale abuse gangs were largely respectful of UK society.
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"""""""Pipe down you right wing thugs, it was largely peaceful."""" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/26/mother-stabbed-notting-hill-carnival-with-her-child/ The Metropolitan Police has said it is “tired of seeing crime scenes” at the Notting Hill Carnival after five people were stabbed at the event this weekend. Three stabbing victims were in a life-threatening condition, including a 32-year-old mother who was rushed to hospital with life-threatening injuries after she was stabbed in front of her child at the festival in west London. There were also two incidents where victims sustained slash wounds and one incident involving a corrosive substance. A total of 35 officers were injured and there had been 230 arrests as of Monday night. Arrests were made for a range of alleged crimes including eight sexual offences, 37 assaults on an emergency worker, theft and drug possession and supply. A Section 60 order, allowing police to stop and search anyone in a specified area, was implemented from 6.05pm on Sunday evening until 2am on Monday, with the second day of the carnival heavily flanked by police officers. Largely Peaceful Eh! hate to have seen what a largely not peaceful would be."
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"I've been to the Trindad Carnival and the Nottinghill Carnival in the same year, back in the 70s. I've also been to carnival rehearsal in a favela in Rio. I can definitely , in more recent years, state that the Notting Hill Carnival did not compare. in fact it was shit. The reason being is it's not in any real cultural context like those in Rio and Port of Spain. It is supposed to be the last days of enjoyment before lent which it isn't in August The weeks leading up to the actual real carnivals in Rio and POS are full of rehearsals, shows and competitions that dominate theall of media. It is something that is woven into the culture. Notting Hill is a ragbag of the second rate. To be fair I don't like the sight of grown men dancing or street violence, so carnivals are not really for me."
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Has that cսnt starmer come out addressing the stabbings and sexual assault at the carnival?
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"Pickle, you've invested your life and your children's upbringing deliberately away from our culture. You live in a country that just wouldn't except this sort of thing into their society.......you've paid into that country and liked it's ways, otherwise why live there? The only standout thing about you is that you regret making a life for yourself on the Russian border, hence your continual bitterness on here......"
- WHU(Exeter)
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"Yeah, that would be it. “Best act this time”, dunno Pickle, but can I nominate your thread opener as “worst act”?"
- Hammer and Pickle
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"See some of the arrests made were for attacks on emergency workers, didn’t state whether fire police or ambulance, but I assume these people will be in court within 4/5 days and be given immediate prison sentences, same justice as for the “ rioters” a couple of weeks ago."
- WHU(Exeter)
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"Is this your idea of right on and edgy Pickle? It’s the type of thread that would’ve failed miserably, ten, fifteen, longer years ago. Risible really."
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"Every time I see video of the Carnival I am always so impressed by this culture. To see how they carry on really is a sight for sore eyes, so impressive. It’s one of Britains finest displays of culturism. It really brings home the true character of the British isles. A fine example for the world to see and envy. Fucking Bunch of backward Neanderthals."
- Lee Trundle
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"This thread is a fine example of why you should never be allowed anywhere near doing the match day threads, Pickled."
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"...""So I said they weren’t there you’d believe that ""... You expect people to believe you're in Poland, so, sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander"