Euro 2024 - Inc Southgate resignation

[Phall Throw]

"We seem to have an England v Bosnia thread but not an actual Euro 2024 thread so here it is So, do we realistically think England can win it? On paper we obviously have a very talented squad but I just don't see us going all the way. For me it's ""same old"" when it comes to England. Breeze the group, favourable draw in last 16 and win then up against far superior opposition in the QFs and out. At best I can see us at the SF stage before being beaten again. Winners for me: France, Portugal, Spain Dark horses: Germany - even though it's a home tournament they've been in a consolidation period, could go close Biggest flops: Scotland - no goals scored Top goalscorer: Mbappe I'm just hoping it's a decent tournament with plenty of decent games that's not ruined by VAR (are they using it?) consolidation period but could go close"

[kylay]

"Are Poland supposed to be this shit? They have a strong spine, but don't know much about the rest. Wouldn't expect them to be great, but Austria are pummeling them."

[Dwight Van Mann]

Must be quite traumatic for Pickle watching the Polish national side of all ethnically white Europeans

[Hammer and Pickle]

"If you want to recover from your England trauma, there’s game of football being played between the technical Jam Rolls and the more physical Shnitzelmunchers led by Former Hammer Arnautovitch."

[Fauxstralian]

Whether its true he was supposedly under consideration until they decided to keep Ten Hag Was reported he didnt want to talk to anyone while England were still in the tournament ... unlike Lopetigi & Spain in 2018

[arsene york-hunt]

i read somewhere that Man utd are after Southgate. I hope this is true.

[Fauxstralian]

International manager is a part time job for older managers No way Howe should even be considering it at his age. If Southgate was any good or had ever achieved anything he wouldn’t be there.

[Any Old Iron]

"Southgate should have been fired rwo years ago, the day after England were stuffed 0-4 at home to Hungary. How he got away with that I’ll never know. Funny how all the tv ‘experts’ who for years have told us what a great job Southgate has done are now telling us that he’s negative and slow to react. Suddenly none of them have got a good word to say about him, the fucking hypocrites"

[New Jersey]

I wonder if Klopp starts getting bored with retirement he could be persuaded to manage England? Probably be Howe but at least Newcastle give it a go. Like others have said it Southgate's England just mirrors Moyes' West Ham!

[New Jersey]

I wonder if Klopp starts getting bored with retirement he could be persuaded to manage England? Probably be Howe but at least Newcastle give it a go. Like others have said it Southgate's England just mirrors Moyes' West Ham!

[Takashi Miike]

"no fucking chance of him ever doing this but it's the team I'd pick........ --------------------------------------- pickford ------------------------------------------ ------------ walker --------------- stones ---------------- guehi ----------------- -------------------------------------- ‚Üñrice ‚Üó ------------------------------------------- saka ----------- bellingham ------------ foden --------------------- gordon ------------------------ watkins --------------- toney ------------------------------- front foot, zero respect for the point, I'd rather lose set up like that then welcoming ninety minutes of pressure anyway"

[Fauxstralian]

Moyes to Scotland Southgate to Wales Was talk that Sir Jim Catweazle wanted Southgate for Man Utd. Must have been testing out all those drugs that Dave Brailsford supplied to the cyclists

[Sir Alf]

"Southgate is the weakest link it would seem. Needs to drop Kane or play a mobile/quick player alongside which means Watkins. Kane is too slow to run in behind, drops deep which means we have no outlet at all. Forget his goals record, he is on the wane imo and has rately if ever produced goals in the tournament games that matter. I’d prefer Watkins and more pace and movement. Trying to fit the best 11 players is a root cause too. Just like the Gerrard, Lampard era. Foden should play centrally and Bellingham alongside Rice but if it doesnt improve things he has to drop one of them. Southgate has clearly not set England up to press as a team but akin to Moyesball, play on the counter or dominate possession. But press England as a team and we, like Moyes West Ham, cannot cope. Wharton looks like a real worker and he or Gallagher could help Rice do that. Out of possession, we dont press as a team and are passive. In possession the movement and intensity missing. Its the coaching and tactics and selection of players for them. A manager with outdated views and ideas who picks players not suited to the tactics. I can see us dropping more points against Slovinia with the Waistcoat in charge."

[violator]

I'm looking forward to the month or so after the tournament and all of the top clubs clambering over each other to get Moyes or Southgate into their hot seats.

[scott_d]

"No disrespect intended to Serbia, Denmark and Slovenia, but this England squad doesn't take much managing to get through the group stages. It requires minimal technical management at this stage and probably just some motivation to gee the players up and inspire them. But tactically, it shouldn't be that difficult considering the quality of some of these players. Of course when we possibly meet some of the bigger teams in the Quarters, Semis etc (if we get there) we should take our opponents more seriously and consider their strengths, but we should be able to navigate the group stages by mostly playing to our own strengths and having faith in our own players. It really says something when there are some fundemental errors and team selections that not only 99% of the fans are recognising but pretty much all the ""experts"" and pundits are saying the same thing. I just hope that he knows what he is doing and has a game plan but it doesn't look like it from the outside in."

[El Scorchio]

"Russ of the BML 3:29 Exactly! He's got an embarrassment of riches to choose from. Probably 8 of the team pick themselves and are good enough Pickford Walker Stones X X Rice Bellingham Foden Saka (we can debate if he's better than Bowen or not but one of the two) Kane X All he's got to do is put in the best available centre back (Guehi looks ok to be fair) and the best available left back. Why the FUCK isn't there another left back in Germany who is fit to play? Then decide if it's Grealish, Gordon or Eze on the left. It's so simple. It's embarrassing. He's even got options if several of the players aren't playing well. Alternatives for Kane, Foden, Bellingham, Saka, left wing, even Rice at a pinch. How can he be fucking this up so badly? It's not like we just have to turn up to win, but we should be cruising. We have three 100mill players in midfield and he's making them look like jokes."

[Percy Dalton]

Summed it up for me when from the kick off the ball was put back to Pickford to launch it as far forward as he could. Tell me another team that does that excluding the jocks. As if watching West Ham under Moyes was bad enough we've got to suffer this useless out of his depth wanky Southgate prick.

[Russ of the BML]

"El Scorchio 2:15 Fri Jun 21 Like alot of England managers before him - Southgate seems to create problems for himself. This squad allows the team to pick itself. And the options hat he has off the bench are a dream. Yet he is moaning about a lack of midfield options to replace Phillips, when he has Mainoo, Gallagher and Wharton. As you say, he is playing a RB there. And why is he even worrying about that. Just play Rice and Bellingham there and tell Foden to just go off and play. The fact that Southgate is getting his selection wrong with this squad confirms what I have always known about him. He's a fucking loser."

[El Scorchio]

"Why is it that EVERYONE can see it needs to be Rice Bellingham Foden as the three in the middle except the manager? That's three, hundred million pound players and he can't get a tune out of any of them. Virtually everyone I talk to, almost all of us on here, all the pundits and presenters on TV all thinks the same. How ca he not see this? How can he think there is no other Englishman who can play alongside Rice than Kalvin Phillps but out of those available, a right back is better? It's insane."

[Far Cough]

"Get rid! Safety first, Mr Nice guy, don't make any waves, loser waistcoat wearing penis."

[Fauxstralian]

He picked Mainoo & Wharton in the squad for that position To be crying over the lack of the dismal pudding K Phillips and say he is experimenting with a right back ahead of them is a kick in the teeth to two young players. More Moyesball keeping the likes of Earthy & Orford on the bench endlessly

[Russ of the BML]

If Shaw isn't fit then play Trippier there. Or even go 3 at the back. Just no more TAA in midfield and not 3 RB's in the same fucking team.

[Russ of the BML]

"My team for Slovenia: Gordon-----------------Watkins--------------Bowen ------------------------------Foden --------------Bellingham----------------Rice Shaw--------Guehi-----------Stones----------Walker --------------------------Pickford If Foden gets injured / tired you swap him for Palmer. If we start lose the midfield take off Foden, push Bellingham into the 10 role and bring on Gallagher to play with Rice. If Watkins isn't firing bring Kane on. Bowen can be subbed for Palmer if need be. Saka and Eze can be used if needed . So many options its unreal. Southgate looks afraid to utilise the players he has."

[boleyn8420]

https://x.com/i/status/1803856789064015900

[El Scorchio]

"The players were shit because we were overrun all game, because he picked a player in the middle of the park who can’t play there. He was an absolute passenger. I was watching him. He had no idea when we didn’t have the ball and when we did he mainly stood next to rice wanting a short pass. All he was there for was to ping one long every time there was a chance. The pros of having him just don’t come close to outweighing the cons. Rice was having to do the job of two players to carry him, Bellingham and Foden and Saka were starved of the ball because we couldn’t get hold of it. Because TAA was just staying behind the ball a lot and not showing for it in an advanced position we were just a man down every time we tried to attack. There was always this huge gap between the front four and the rest. Which fed Kanes worst traits as he came deeper and deeper and we ended up playing almost with six defenders and four midfielders. When we did get the ball there was no one in an advanced position. You can tell the players hate it. They were visually showing it. In a way it must be awful for TAA. He must know he’s the reason. He simply can’t play there again. By the way on the BBC website they then started going ‘maybe he can play left back instead of trippier’. WHY? What benefit will he bring there? He can’t use his right foot there? Why is there this desperation to get our third at best right back into the team at any cost? Why do we have three right backs in the side? It’s insanity. What other manager would take one injured left back and just plug a right back in instead of also picking the second best left back as cover? It’s hurting the team so badly. The left is a problem that isn’t getting solved unless Shaaw comes back in after four months off and starts playing like he’s never been away. Likely in a knockout game against a big team. Two left wingers on the bench who aren’t being used because he’s playing someone out of position again there. For a manager to have this much talent to pick from and get it all so badly wrong is staggering. For him to say that it’s not working because he doesn’t have Kalvin Phillips is astonishing. His job is to work round it. It shouldn’t be hard at all with the top class players we have. And what does he do? Sticks a right back there. Again with shaw he’s clearly not able to work round him not being fit given what he’s done. I just can’t believe he’s so tactically inept. It’s a real shock how bad this actually is. It explains why he hangs on to players well past their sell by date. He doesn’t know what to do to replace them because it involves tweaking the way we play. The players who play for Klopp and Pep and Arteta must be thinking what the fuck?? We go from that to this clown?? Bowen must feel like he’s still playing for Moyes."

[Russ of the BML]

boleyn8420 1:19 Fri Jun 21 Made me laugh...