Euro 2024 - Inc Southgate resignation

[Phall Throw]

"We seem to have an England v Bosnia thread but not an actual Euro 2024 thread so here it is So, do we realistically think England can win it? On paper we obviously have a very talented squad but I just don't see us going all the way. For me it's ""same old"" when it comes to England. Breeze the group, favourable draw in last 16 and win then up against far superior opposition in the QFs and out. At best I can see us at the SF stage before being beaten again. Winners for me: France, Portugal, Spain Dark horses: Germany - even though it's a home tournament they've been in a consolidation period, could go close Biggest flops: Scotland - no goals scored Top goalscorer: Mbappe I'm just hoping it's a decent tournament with plenty of decent games that's not ruined by VAR (are they using it?) consolidation period but could go close"

[cholo]

Some of the names to replace Southgate (should he resign) aren't very inspiring are they? Eddie Howe? Doubt he'd leave Newcastle. Graham Potter? Slightly different shade of beige? Lampard? Ag!

[aldgate]

"At 1-1 he was preparing to send on gallagher and trippier until they scored and he did his usual panic ""attacking"" subs. From the kick off we were lined up like Wimbledon for a pass back to the keeper and a diagonal hoof up the pitch. Criminal really with that players we have. But he's a nice bloke and made us better. Now we just need a real tactician with a ruthless streak"

[Alwaysaniron]

"Quite frankly I am delighted the nauseating, New Fan George Cross waving wankfest is over. It was just like watching West Ham under Moyes. Endlessly frustating, topped with a sprinkling of hope. The country, like us as club fans, needs to be enterained. We've seemingly got the players to do it, we just need somebody who has the balls to lead them propertly. Thanks for getting us to first loser postion Mr Southgate. Now do us a big favour and FUCK OFF"

[happygilmore]

Tired? Qualification secured before the last group game. Why didn't he make 11 changes instead of 1 ? Pretty sure the Spanish made wholesale changes for their last group game

[terry-h]

The 1966 heroes must have been even more exhausted. 120 minutes after kick off they triumphed 4-2 over the West Germans without the benefit of any substitutes in those days. Today’s footballers are pampered in every aspect of their overpaid lives. THEY THINK IT’S ALL OVER. IT IS NOW!

[dealcanvey]

"zico 3:15 Mon Jul 15 Agree. We looked solid playing 3 cbs. Something you would think Southgate would be happy with. He was also able to play he's favourite players in favoured positions. We certainly looked better for it. To change back to Plan A which was simply, shit made no sense at all."

[Gary Strodders shank]

I don't enjoy watching England play in these tournaments anymore because it's the same old same old Media hype once a year drinkers and newbie fans with all the gear and no idea singing stupid songs. England player looking like they have the weight of the world on their shoulders Pictures of Piers Morgan and other arsehole freeloading celebs at the final pretending to be patriotic and then ultimately it all ends in tears as we flatter to deceive yet again.

[RootsRadical]

Also at that point he still had 3 subs to use so if fatigue was really an issue why not use them rather than waiting until the last few minutes when we were hanging on?

[RootsRadical]

"I was expecting a Premier league style grandstand finish from us after we scored. I'm surprised fatigue has been used as an excuse, you'd think that with judty10 mins to go having just equalised in a game of that magnitude pure adrenaline and desire would have overcome any fatigue. We had a little go straight after but then it looked like we were playing for ET and penalties. Soon as they scored we found the energy to nearly equalise agsin, and therein lies the problem throughout, we only tried to score when we were losing, same as West Ham under Moyes last season."

[bruuuno]

"I’m sorry manuel but that’s bollocks, stop posting shit"

[bruuuno]

"I’m sorry manuel but that’s bollocks, stop posting shit"

[Lee Trundle]

"fatigue?! hahaha If only there was a bench that you could put some other players on, and then bring them on when players get tired."

[Manuel]

"As I said earlier Southgate was asked why we didn't press on after we scored, he acknowledged it was a god question then when on to say that it was because of fatigue, highlighting some players coming into the comp not fully fit and two rounds of extra time etc. Don't shoot the messenger."

[Lee Trundle]

"Lifted from X, so I can't take credit. But it sounds about right. The moment it died… After our 73rd min equaliser, we had started to play it around for a period of sustained possession. Then for some reason, Walker throws the ball way back to Stones, who passes it back to Pickford, who long balls it out for a goal kick to Spain."

[zico]

"What I found bizarre is that against the Dutch England went with a back three and looked more comfortable with it and certainly looked more balanced. So why abandon that in the Final and revert back to the same formation that hadn't worked for the previous games, and not only that stick Bellingham out on the left? For me he is an 8 and Foden a 10 and so many suggested that as an option but Southgate never went with it. Just bizarre."

[Eerie Descent]

"A general rule of thumb on here, is if you're finding yourself disagreeing with EVERY single word threesixty posts, you're of sound mind. Geezer is a weapon. I don't make a habit of listening to Talksport, but given last night, I've tuned in this morning. Every person on there agrees it's time for Moyesgate to go, all the pundits, former players, journo's, and all those that phoned in. Well,everyone apart from 1 fella that phoned in, who sounded like he'd had his brain cut out and replaced with a bag of marshmallows."

[El Scorchio]

"Lee Trundle 2:46 100%. They were rattled for the first and only time in the match. That was the time to go for it and become aggressive and try and put our foot on their throat before they had time to regroup. But no, we sat off and let them get their foot back on the ball. As has been said by several people, there's only urgency or attacking intent when we go behind. Otherwise it's safety first It's all reactive rather than proactive. These players are good enough to be on the front foot rather than dropping deep and inviting the other team on, with the hope of just springing Saka on the break. It's just like watching West Ham under Moyes."

[Side of Ham]

English football is not ‘hoof ball’ if it was the PL would not be one of the best leagues in the world to watch…..you can even name the managers that have ‘hoof ball’ as their go to in times of pressure…..Moyes & Southgate…..

[Lee Trundle]

"I thought we had Spain on the ropes, just after we scored. That was the time to go for it. Instead, we retreated back into our shell."

[Takashi Miike]

"every game in the tournament bar the semi final (when we played a system that worked), the only time he took the shackles off the players was when we needed a goal. in the quarter final and final, when we made it level his natural reaction wasn't to make another progressive/attacking substitution. no, his reaction was to get on conor fucking gallagher. he's a moyes clone, his football is horrific and only a cսnt would want more of it"

[Russ of the BML]

"threesixty 1:59 Mon Jul 15 It's not childish. Its a fact. I don't know the exact details, but if any of the bigger nations in the last four tournaments had four 'must win' games - They would win at least one of them. And I am not talking about the team being serial losers. I am talking about Southgate being a serial loser. And its not just that we got beat and knocked out of those tournaments, in three of them we had our opponents, Croatia, France and Italy, on the rack. But Southgate's, defensive and nervous approach allowed them back in. As i said, if you think like a loser you get what you deserve. And you are rightly allowed your opinion. We just don't agree. I really cannot see how you can defend the indefensible. This tournament on the outside has been good (as we got to the final) but the details tell a different story. The mistakes have been significant. Just scroll back through this thread and see all the mistakes he has made. He hasn't learnt from past tournaments and he will never learn. He isn't a winner. It's not what he does. His track record proves that and the fact that, arguably, our performances in this Euros have been as bad as any tournament with the best players tells you what you need to about him. Nice bloke. But a loser."

[RootsRadical]

"For all the talent we have we still don't have the technical players who can keep the ball and retain possession particularly in midfield. We were dominated in midfield, still don't get why Mainoo was there when you already have Bellingham, Foden. He did little to earn or keep the spot and was anonymous last night and is not a suitable partner for Rice. If he was gonna play Mainoo as the 8 he may as well put Bellingham there instead of out left, Foden as the 10 and Gordon on the left. He tried everything but that throughout the tournament which is frustrating and odd, a real failing by Southgate. Another failing was persisting with an unfit Kane in a system that didn't suit him. This is pretty basic stuff. What we needed clearly was a Wharton type player who was in in the squad for that reason but didn't get a kick, another odd decision and waste of a squad place. We couldn't cope with Spain's pressing which is why Pickford just kept hoofing it, on the rare occasions we tried to play out from the back Spain were all over us so the ball ended up going back to Pickford to hoof it. As everyone knew the squad was unbalanced as were the teams he picked, he tried to shoehorn in the best 11 instead of picking a balanced team with the best player for each position playing in their best position. Biggest worry is that if Southgate goes they will appoint Gerard, Lampard or Rooney."

[charleyfarley]

"Former England striker Lineker said on the Rest Is Football podcast: “I think he’s been the right person to bring the nation together in terms of the football team. And, now, maybe it’s time for someone else with a more modern, attacking style of football. Because I think the game’s gone away from being successful if you’re really defensive.” I wonder if the penny has finally dropped?"

[Lee Trundle]

"threesixty 1:59 Mon Jul 15 ""Maybe it's my age, but I've never expected much out of an English football team"" I don't think it's your age. You always tend to be in the minority with your way of thinking. England were the favourites to win the tournament. There was plenty of expectation."

[Gary Strodders shank]

They cut through our midfield at will in the second half and Dec was clearly struggling as the only true holding midfielder. Poor decision in hindsight by the waistcoat not to have Kalvin Phillips in the squad ?ü§£