Provisional England Euros squad of 30

[Fauxstralian]

To be announced at 2pm … leaking like West Ham’s defence. Bowen in the 30 Reduced to the tournament 26 on June 7

[Rossal]

"Bowen will go, the 7 to miss out will be Trafford Quansah Konsa Dunk Jones Wharton Madison Shaw sounds fucked, if he don't go i guess Konsa might for versatilty"

[Fauxstralian]

Have said before that if Arsenal offered us Saka in a straight swap for Bowen OR Kudus I’d turn them down That said Saka will start & Bowen is likely to be squeezed out probably for Palmer (having heard him speak I suspect he has had a lobotomy)

[Fauxstralian]

Must admit I read the article that said he was picking 30 & didn’t count the 33 Have drawn 3 more out of a hat for fairness Kane Foden Bellingham Bad luck lads!

[onsideman]

"Agree 100% with cholo and billywhitehorse Surprised any West Ham fan who goes to games and sees what he puts in would rate Bowen below Saka. How many headers has Saka scored to go woth his 6 penalties? The Saka limping videos are funny, too"

[Far Cough]

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"From the thirty I would leave out Trafford, Wharton, Maddison and Grealish."

[Manuel]

"Just watched waistcoats 11 min presser, was pretty impressed how confidently and precisely he answered all questions posed, but ultimately it will all just likely come down to what happens on the night if we meet France again and not who finer detail like who gets left out of a 26 man squad."

[fraser]

"Feet is one thick cսnt, kept bouncing the Moyes out thread everytime we won and then moaning about it."

[Nagel]

"Jesus wept. I'm guessing twoleftfeet weren't a detective. Of course back when he was plod he could just fit someone up and plant the evidence, whereas on here everyone can see that no-one mentioned anything about Moyes at all. Must be hard to adjust to that."

[Lee Trundle]

"You're the only one to name him on this thread, twoleftfeet. I'd have thought being ex old bill you'd have thicker skin than you currently have."

[twoleftfeet]

"Good to see that another thread has been hijacked by a Moyes hater. Let it fucking go. And no Moyes had nothing to do with the NHS blood scandal, he also wasn't piloting the Singapore Airlines plane that someone died on and no he isn't responsible for Netanyahus arrest warrant."

[billywhitehorse]

Bowen is better than Saka for reasons pointed out below.about their achievements playing for teams in different parts of the league table. Also Saka has no bottle and disappears if he gets kicked. Put him in Bowen's shoes in Prague last June and I don't think he scores that goal. Add in Bowen's work rate and determination and there's no competition between them.

[Nagel]

"A lot of great attacking options but defence looks weak. My final 26 would probably be: GK: Henderson, Pickford, Ramsdale LB: Shaw, Gomez CB: Stones, Branthwaite, Maguire, Guehi, Konsa RB: Walker, Trippier CM: Rice, Mainoo, Gallagher, Jones AM: Bellingham, Palmer LW: Foden, Grealish, Gordon CF: Kane, Watkins, Toney RW: Bowen, Saka I'd probably have Palmer ahead of Bowen at RW, but if Southgate somehow decides to go for it and puts Bellingham alongside Rice in CM, then Palmer can play as a 10."

[cholo]

"OTB I buy it, Bowen's 16 premier league goals from open play in a midtable team that averages 35% possession per game, is far more impressive than Saka's 10 in one of the best attacking teams in Europe, playing essentially the same role. Saka has age over Bowen but that's it. I genuinely wouldn't swap Bowen for Saka at this stage."

[On The Ball]

"cholo 7:08 Tue May 21 I don't buy that at all. People love to accuse Southgate of bias but you've only got to look at this squad to see that isn't true - four Palace players? Saka is a better player than Bowen, as much as I love him."

[On The Ball]

"goose 7:02 Tue May 21 He doesn't love Maddison, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him be dropped. He rightly loves Grealish though - and I'd definitely take him."

[On The Ball]

"goose 7:02 Tue May 21 He doesn't love Maddison, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him be dropped. He rightly loves Grealish though - and I'd definitely take him."

[cholo]

"onsideman If Bowen played for Arsenal and Saka us, there's no doubt who Southgate would choose."

[On The Ball]

"easthammer 6:18 Tue May 21 He made a point about the position titles in the press conference - they're just media titles, they're irrelevant in reality."

[goose]

on form i'd ditch Grealish or Maddison but i dont think Southgate has the bottle to drop either.

[onsideman]

Fauxstralian 6:52 Tue May 21 There are 7 players to be culled - that's a training squad of 33

[goose]

how many centre backs does he need? lets assume you take four full-backs: Walker/Shaw Tripper/Gomez? i wont even mention TAA. That leaves: Braithwaite Dunk Guehi Konsa Maguire Quansah Stones 7 fucking centre backs!! i'd ditch Dunk & Quansah. Then one keeper - Trafford. Then one of Bowen/Eze/Maddison.

[onsideman]

"Stowie.40 5:09 Tue May 21 Tough to argue with your logic, however I honestly feel Bowen is a better player than Saka who I think is hugely overrated. Not many will agree - including waistcoat - but strip out penalties and Bowen comfortably outscores him in a largely average team and I just think he's a much more dynamic and less predictable player."

[Fauxstralian]

"England provisional squad Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace), Jordan Pickford (Everton), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal), James Trafford (Burnley). Defenders: Jarrad Branthwaite (Everton), Lewis Dunk (Brighton), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Jarell Quansah (Liverpool), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle), Kyle Walker (Manchester City) Midfielders: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea), Curtis Jones (Liverpool), Kobbie Mainoo (Manchester United), Declan Rice (Arsenal), Adam Wharton (Crystal Palace). Forwards: Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Jarrod Bowen (West Ham), Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), James Maddison (Tottenham), Cole Palmer (Chelsea), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Ivan Toney (Brentford), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa). Assuming noone drops out through injury suspect the 4 dropped to make 26 will be Trafford Dunk Maddison & Bowen"