Anxiety/depression

[Tomshardware]

"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

[bruuuno]

Although I will say that sometimes hallucinogens can help with some issues but create new ones so it’s a double edged sword

[bruuuno]

I know several people who find microdosing shrooms is the best medication for their depression

[Alfs]

"Block - I'm on Peroxatine, have been for over ten years now. It's been a great help but I think I've built up some tolerance and am thinking that I need to hup my dosage. I've never been that low where I have seriously considered suicide but I have been in that space where I really didn't give a shit if I did die. You're right. It's the emptiness. Absolutely no motivation to do anything. I spend hours sometimes playing online solitaire as it's robotic and repetitive, which for some reason makes me feel a little better."

[Sniper]

"What has happened with Eddie B has really hit me today, not just because he seemed such a lovely, genuine bloke on here but also, selfishly, because even up until very recently it could quite easily have been me. Nobody who hasn‚Äôt had depression can possibly understand it. Even experts who are meant to understand it don‚Äôt really. It‚Äôs horrendous and horrific and I genuinely wouldn‚Äôt wish it on anyone. And it haunts you in a way that is utterly shattering - I thought I‚Äôd got over it, but had some kind of relapse and it‚Äôs horrific in a very different way the second time round to realise that it can just appear again when you think you‚Äôre good And the stigma of it is still there regardless of all the campaigns to rise awareness. Ive lost two jobs over it in the last year, both at an employer I‚Äôve been with over a decade. I‚Äôm very fortunate that, when I went for help from a Gp, I got an appointment with a Norwegian Gp, and they have a totally different level of understanding of mental health that we are no way near. I know other people whose experience hasn‚Äôt been the same - talking to someone is only the first step, but it‚Äôs the most important and how far that takes you can depend on their reaction. I had to wait 6 months for cbt sessions, and they had to be with a student or else I‚Äôd have been waiting another year. This country is woefully underprepared and inept at dealing with these issues despite the high publicity campaigns to promote people thinking about mental health etc. I don‚Äôt get tell anyone of my experience be as the reaction is generally an eye roll of ‚Äòoh another one of those people making it up‚Äô or someone being on edge and metaphorically backing away slowly as if you‚Äôre a loon whose gonna shit in their hands and clap any moment. So all I would say is look out for one another - I dont mean don‚Äôt cսnt each other off or rip the piss. I mean look out for your mate, your brother, the guy next to you at the football every week or even someone at work who you may not give two hoots about normally but is behaving differently from normal. Someone somewhere cares about them but may not see them half as much as you do at work. So pay attention, especially when they isolate themselves if that‚Äôs not how they normally are. It‚Äôs often not because they don‚Äôt want to be with other people - from personal experience it‚Äôs because you don‚Äôt want other people to have to be around you. It‚Äôs a bitch of a condition, and there‚Äôs no anti depressants that can help anywhere near as much as just genuine support from people who want to help. I think any of us would have done anything to prevent what happened to Eddie had we known."

[Sniper]

"What has happened with Eddie B has really hit me today, not just because he seemed such a lovely, genuine bloke on here but also, selfishly, because even up until very recently it could quite easily have been me. Nobody who hasn‚Äôt had depression can possibly understand it. Even experts who are meant to understand it don‚Äôt really. It‚Äôs horrendous and horrific and I genuinely wouldn‚Äôt wish it on anyone. And it haunts you in a way that is utterly shattering - I thought I‚Äôd got over it, but had some kind of relapse and it‚Äôs horrific in a very different way the second time round to realise that it can just appear again when you think you‚Äôre good And the stigma of it is still there regardless of all the campaigns to rise awareness. Ive lost two jobs over it in the last year, both at an employer I‚Äôve been with over a decade. I‚Äôm very fortunate that, when I went for help from a Gp, I got an appointment with a Norwegian Gp, and they have a totally different level of understanding of mental health that we are no way near. I know other people whose experience hasn‚Äôt been the same - talking to someone is only the first step, but it‚Äôs the most important and how far that takes you can depend on their reaction. I had to wait 6 months for cbt sessions, and they had to be with a student or else I‚Äôd have been waiting another year. This country is woefully underprepared and inept at dealing with these issues despite the high publicity campaigns to promote people thinking about mental health etc. I don‚Äôt get tell anyone of my experience be as the reaction is generally an eye roll of ‚Äòoh another one of those people making it up‚Äô or someone being on edge and metaphorically backing away slowly as if you‚Äôre a loon whose gonna shit in their hands and clap any moment. So all I would say is look out for one another - I dont mean don‚Äôt cսnt each other off or rip the piss. I mean look out for your mate, your brother, the guy next to you at the football every week or even someone at work who you may not give two hoots about normally but is behaving differently from normal. Someone somewhere cares about them but may not see them half as much as you do at work. So pay attention, especially when they isolate themselves if that‚Äôs not how they normally are. It‚Äôs often not because they don‚Äôt want to be with other people - from personal experience it‚Äôs because you don‚Äôt want other people to have to be around you. It‚Äôs a bitch of a condition, and there‚Äôs no anti depressants that can help anywhere near as much as just genuine support from people who want to help. I think any of us would have done anything to prevent what happened to Eddie had we known."

[Meerkat]

"Tom , I struggled for a time in 2013 , had the darkest thoughts . It’s hard to know where it comes from - had, still have a loving wife and kids . That all seemed irrelevant though for a time . However I was lucky in that something in me sought help . First with my missus , my doctor and wider mental health services . I took anti d’s for 6 months and with the support of all of the above I have recovered I would say completely . It can be done - I am now in a very good place and am determined every day to be as relaxed and chilled as possible . It’s working . Loved ones are always there for you - just reach out ."

[J.Riddle]

"I don't know much about this, but have had more downs than ups over the years and know that it can affect anyone at any time. I wonder whether life in general has become so materialistic that people's expectations are too high, life has always been materialistic, but the last 20 years with the Internet there have been massive changes."

[chiff]

"Tom, I am so sorry to hear that you are going through tough times. There is a lot of good advice below and it might help you to make a note of those ideas you think will work for you. Please try to replace negative thoughts with good ones if you can and set yourself realistic targets. I am sorry that I cannot go into more detail, I am experiencing some health issues. I have prayed for you. God bless you."

[Sydney_Iron]

"Just seen the Eddie B thread, unbelievable really, fuck the football when this stuff seems rife at the moment, why are so many blokes affected now, has it always been like this? Seems to be late 40,s early 50,s it strikes or comes to a head Not just on WHO but lost a couple of old friends the last few years, not least Clive who was a few years older than me and the most happy go lucky bloke you could have met, hung himself in his garage, and no one had any idea he was suffering from depression. Get bouts myself for no particular reason, always just knuckle down and push through it, go for a run, do some full on exorcise and keep busy, never lasts more than a day or 2, just hope in the years ahead it never gets as bad to think of ending it all, to those out there or who have posted here, remember your not alone, if it gets bad, just get some help, see the GP, just don’t think it’s the end, there are millions of us suffering in silence with you, some more than others, just don’t end up like Eddie or Piggy or maybe others on WHO that have just disappeared over the years and we never knew why. Get a new hobby, get an interest, get a reason to get up in the morning, change jobs if you don’t like it, fuck the money, do something you like or always wanted to do, its never too late to go back and learn something new, actually know a bloke whose in his late 40,s, hated his job, so is now an apprentice electrician for another mate, off to collage every week, earning fuck all but far happier and in a few years will be back to making good money again. NEVER give up, you will come out at the end of the tunnel and you may have to go through again, accept its going to rear its black, dark ugly head, but never let it win........."

[matchless]

"I am not qualified to offer any solutions and am not going to try. But if it's any comfort to anyone, many years ago after leaving school I was very lonely (no-one near me had gone to the same school) and I felt very isolated. I used to hate Sundays dreading going in to work the next day. Not sure this is anxiety/depression but it's not very nice. Somehow I survived and am still alive 60 years later. This is just to say that there may be light at the end of the tunnel and you can survive with a little good fortune. Keep hanging in there. I wish the very best to anyone suffering at the moment."

[mashed in maryland]

Possibly

[Mike Oxsaw]

"mashed in maryland 9:10 Fri Jan 17 90 minutes stood around a football pitch shouting ""encouragement"" at your team also seemed to release a great deal of pent-up frustrations, even if they were not football related. A gentle ripple of applause at a favourable VAR decision doesn't quite have the same effect"

[mashed in maryland]

"Lily Hammer 7:34 Fri Jan 17 I've seen and heard this talked about loads as well but the problem is that like anything it could potentially become a crutch, and I don't think I've ever met a single person who is or has been a heavy user of these types of drugs who has anything closely resembling a healthy mind, or life in general for that matter. For what little its worth I think there's truth to the talk on this thread about it being linked to anger, and a lot of (not most) blokes these days fall into the shit because of comfort. We're naturally aggressive animals and if there's no way of channeling that energy it can eat a man up from the inside. You'd be surprised how well a few months of rigorous and hard training in the gym can absolutely turn someone's life around, (mentally as well as physically) cos that aggression is being put to use, and there is absolutely no detrimental side effect of getting fitter and stronger. Not saying this to shit on your suggestion but joining a boxing gym or even a normal gym is probably a much better bet for the average man than experimenting with hallucinogens, especially if they're already unsure of their own mind."

[Nurse Ratched]

"I am obliged, my love *curtseys extravagantly*"

[dolph]

*bidnid Is the top trump of gangster style slang.

[Nurse Ratched]

"""Mike, why don't you actually talk to those who you don't ""feel"" like bonding with?"" Not everybody enjoys or needs to socialise in that way! Bloody extroverts - you can never stop meddling in our introvert bidnis."

[Mike Oxsaw]

Are you anxious to know?

[joe royal]

Who is Rob Burrow?

[Lily Hammer]

"Has anyone suggested taking magic mushrooms, yet? No joke. Mental health experts can no longer deny the results on what were previously called cases of untreatable depression. Not to be taken down the pub or in a rave, but somewhere and with someone with whom you feel comfortable, and ideally have some privacy. People who had this “treatment” often described the effect the same way: like a reboot of the brain. Google magic mushrooms depression and you’ll find lots of recent articles about this."

[Jasnik]

My missus does puzzles all the time I hate doing puzzles. I try to explain to make the pieces fit you just need a large hammer and just smash the ferker until it fits. now that is relaxing .

[Jasnik]

Stevethehammer 2:29 Fri Jan 17 I hear you. Some people are so much up their own.

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Block 5:01 Fri Jan 17 I've been here nearly 3 years. All those on my team who do talk to me (i.e are not being overtly racist) want to talk about is work, cricket & Allah saving my life. They're not paying me for the first, the second bores the pants off me and I learnt long ago to swerve all forms of religeon. I go in, do what I'm required then leave - as it is I'm about to enter the 3rd year of a 1 year contract. The work's good and the cause it supports is good. The people are ignorant muppets. Two out of three, as the song goes... dolph: BASTARD!!!!!!"

[one iron]

"I am also able to help,try walking early in the morning round a nice place,lake ect,this will help.the main thing talk share your problems.wish you well."

[Pub Bigot]

"I know this will come across as a shallow thing, but if you want someone to talk to I'll happily share my number and we can talk. I don't know what depression feels like, I cannot relate in that way, but if I can help in anyway I will. First chance you get, talk to someone, professional or otherwise and then seek help. The slogan it's okay to not be okay has never been truer and your feelings are not your fault. Good luck fellow Hammer, my offer is open always."

[Jasnik]

We all have WHO.. I've been here from the beginning. It makes me laugh. ..