Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo the Communist 2:58 Thu Jul 29 I would like it to be loud coverage, it was an unacceptable act. But I would also like people to understand that my sister in being a rural RCMP officer, a sheriff and a prisoner transfer officer experienced many of the same things these officers described and feared for her life. The racial or in her case sexist abuse, the stinking of chemical/fecal matter coming back etc. I did not hear those realties being given voice in Westminster attack, nor the protests/riots than have happen in the UK recently. When that is not the case, I do see a political motive. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c37r4jqnn21t/us-capitol-riots This what I am talking about as far as front page news - ie. the equivalent of something that will be wrapping fish the next day. A couple of those stories from Tuesday/Wednesday have decent headlines - not the others, if you are not going to use similar headlines about police for other incidents. Some of that is just bad/clickbait/economic, what I called sleazy before, some of it is political. I think it belies a bias to consistently downplay the political part."

[Fo the Communist]

"Irons. I could talk for hours on why there is so much bad (and deteriorating by the year) journalism. The biggest factor - by far - is economics rather than political agendas. Yes I think that injuries (and not just fatal ones) to police officers is given prominence in the UK media. Funnily enough the current lead story on my local newspaper's website is about a bloke spitting in the face of a police officer. That would not be a front page story if any old Tom Dick or Harry has received a faceful of saliva. As a reporter I would clearly make play of the fact a policeman had been injured. Moreover the courts and politicians do too. Your point seems to be that the coverage given to the US police caught up in the Capitol riots is excessive. For at least three reasons I have given, I don't see this that is unwarranted, unusual or surprising. And by 'front page articles' do you mean appearing as such on the website for a few hours (genuine question)?"

[ironsofcanada]

"Darby_ 2:28 Thu Jul 29 Everyone here knows I ""whine"" a lot more about poor journalism than I have ever ""whined"" for Trump. When you make silly generalizations like that people see the value of your posts the same way they can when make factual errors. Eg. The representatives being shot in Congress certainly happened in my mom's lifetime. And certainly within my great aunt's lifetime, who is from the States. The act deserve a whole lot of attention. The partisan hearings maybe less. But notice my original comment about tone of the police reporting, again deserves consistent and objective and loud attention. I learned that from my sister."

[ironsofcanada]

Fo the Communist 2:21 Thu Jul 29 Where did I say you were defending it? It was a poor argument - bad journalism happens because...bad journalism. You don't have hold that view for it to be poor. But let's cut the dance around - Police have been injured in a number of protests/riots (depending on who you ask) in - this - country in the relatively recent past. Are there front page articles about the affect on officers' involved? Do you (not what poor journalism does) believe that is correct practise? Do you believe there is any political motive for that trend?

[Darby_]

"Canada, we all know perfectly well why you're crying about the subject. Because it was your scumbag hero who tried to overturn the voters' will, and incited his thugs to try to do it by storming Congress and stopping the election count. That, as far as I'm aware has never happened before in the US. It certainly hasn't happened in anyone's lifetime. That's why it's getting so much attention. Everyone here knows that, and yet you can't stop your pathetic whining."

[RBshorty]

100 Screaming Women.

[RBshorty]

100 Screaming Women.

[Fo the Communist]

"Irons You said I was defending bad journalism. This was not what I was doing at all. You therefore introduced a false narrative to detract from the real point being made. That is, by anyone's definition, a straw man. Auntie. Funnily enough, Star Trek was 'woke' half a century before 'woke' was invented. Didn't it have the first inter-racial TV kiss, overtly tackle subjects of race and prejudice and have a crew full of commies when US mainstream was still fearful of Reds under the bed?"

[ironsofcanada]

"Darby_ 2:10 Thu Jul 29 Honestly mate, I missed it the first time round, until Block pointed it out and as you can see I was discussing bad journalism with someone else. I did have to study these things in school, for good or bad. But, in the end you were wrong again about a historical fact And will continue to dance around the fact that this about consistency in the treatment of police in the media. And not about a political axe you want to grind with a sparse knowledge of the facts."

[Darby_]

"ironsofcanada 1:29 Thu Jul 29 Re: Woke watch By ""off the top of my head"" you mean ""half an hour after my original response after I've thought about it a bit and googled ""historical attacks on the US congress""?"

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo the Communist 1:27 Thu Jul 29 You are confusing or trying to confuse thing a bit First, we are not talking about killing of police officers - explicitly - we are talking about those that survived and feared for their lives. Of course, a great deal of coverage changes when someone dies. I did not mention the name of the soldier/officer killed in Ottawa and Westminster. So you have reached back 35 years to things that at best clouds this specific argument. ""Well no, I'm not defending it. I'm merely explaining what forces - as unwelcome as they may be - influence news coverage. Classic straw man from you there, mate."" I am arguing against bad journalism with coverage comparisons and you respond with ""but it's just bad journalism?"" Your point is a bad one without me having to say you believed it. Who taught you the meaning of straw man? For it to be decent journalism - if the officers feeling are relevant front page news now, then they should have been on the front page in a number of other incidents."

[Auntie Thermite]

Wokeness in TV Shows and Films is Meant to Suck by Dave Cullen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjt-vxEMpVs An easy entry into understanding the demoralisation process of the relentless culture wars.

[ironsofcanada]

"Darby_ 12:59 Thu Jul 29 ""Nothing like that has ever happened in US history."" Off the top of my head, a number of bombs and in the 50s Puerto Rican separatists stormed the house floor and shot a number of representatives. Please mate, know something about the subject."

[Fo the Communist]

"Irons The headline arose because the House Select Committee was - during that day's hearing - receiving testimony from police officers. Of course the headline followed the evidence being heard that day. ""Another would be perpetuation of a narrative."" Are you really trying to argue a point with bad journalism again? Well no, I'm not defending it. I'm merely explaining what forces - as unwelcome as they may be - influence news coverage. Classic straw man from you there, mate. And I didn't 'reach back' - I am saying that the killing of police officers stays in the memory of people - and the news - in this country."

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo the Communist 1:03 Thu Jul 29 The point and the headline was about an officer, rightfully, fearing for his life. If the political story was the story, that should have been the headline. Not the officer's well-being. ""Another would be perpetuation of a narrative."" Are you really trying to argue a point with bad journalism again? And did you really need to reach back at least 35 years to find reverend police officers. I think you might be be making a bit of my point. Don't remember his name but I can think of the Thames Valley one, off the top of my head, dragged behind a vehicle recently. But again, he is remembered because we don't like those who did it?"

[twoleftfeet]

Is banning heading woke?

[Toe Rag]

It’s just political correctness on steroids.

[yngwies Cat]

Can someone explain to me what a fuckin Woke is? Why does everything have to have a label these days?

[Block]

"so he incited his thugs to storm the US Capitol to overthrow the election. Nothing like that has ever happened in US history. I love these type of comments which are utter bollocks. Still, it gets the likes of Derby all angry so it's quite entertaining to watch."

[ironsofcanada]

"Darby_ 12:59 Thu Jul 29 Great diversionary rant but ignored the point and the attack in the country where most posters including myself reside. ""Your boy"" - ? How old are you, mate?"

[Fo the Communist]

Irons - I have given you one. Another would be the context - police injured during what is arguably an insurrection led by the US president at the heart of US democracy and in defiance of an emphatic presidential election result is a remarkable event. Another would be perpetuation of a narrative. Media love to return to a well covered story not least because they have footage and commentators lined up. In the UK police are generally revered too. Yvonne Fletcher and Keith Blakelock are forever in the British psyche and quite righty too. As for that matter is Harry Roberts (our mate apparently).

[Darby_]

"Canada, I doubt anyone here knows who his name is and has probably never heard of the incident because no one gives a shit about Canada. Your boy refused to accept the voters' will in the 2020 election, so he incited his thugs to storm the US Capitol to overthrow the election. Nothing like that has ever happened in US history. It's a big story. Nothing in Canada is ever a big story. Sorry about that."

[Fifth Column]

My daughter has one of those. I bought it so she gets out of bed in time for school without using her phone to wake her up. A woke watch. That's another name for an alarm clock isn't it?

[ironsofcanada]

"Fo ""Various reasons"" is a cop out. (Used advisedly) List and explain."

[Fo the Communist]

Irons. You may or may not be right but your chosen comparison of events is not a good one for various reasons starting with the 'calculus of affinity' - a phenomenon we have spoken about before I recall?