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arsene york-hunt
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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."
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"Surf ""I completely agree that 'leftie' is a pejorative and, while I don't really want to get into the specifics of the issue, I agree that 'leftie lawyer' pejorative."" That would have saved some time - and arsene's patience - had you written that yesterday."
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"O1BB So, what he's saying is that Bruce's not exhibiting a dogmatic left-wing stance on one particular occasion (I'm not sure attitudes towards spousal abuse are particularly party political, but the Tories are the nasty party, so they must all be bashing up their wives) is proof of the BBC's anti-left stance. So, we have on the one side the BBC's entire news, drama, light entertainment and now sports output, and on the other the Chairman, Director General (both legitimate political appointments) and Fiona Bruce being polite. More big lie theory stuff."
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"ED. I think Ray is saying that FB's words dilute Johnsons actions towards his wife. He would expect someone of the true left to be far more condemning than what Bruce was. And to be fair, he has a point."
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ray winstone 2:12 Fri Mar 10 What the fuck does any of that have to do with 'Left wing'?
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"Fifth Nice post. I completely agree that 'leftie' is a pejorative and, while I don't really want to get into the specifics of the issue, I agree that 'leftie lawyer' pejorative. However, I've never disputed that. The debate is about the relative innocuousness of 'leftie', which is about the strongest term commonly used by the right (nobody says 'commie' any more), compared with, specifically, 'extreme-right' and also 'fascist' and 'Nazi' commonly thrown about by the left. My question is, given that, politics being politics, 'leftie' IS being used as a pejorative, what alternative milder expression could possibly be used? FO has now been joined by several others of the, um, 'progressive' persuasion, crying 'foul' at its use. FO has even bridled at Labour, the socialist party in the UK, being described as 'socialist'. I've also pointed out that the use of 'populist' is deeply pejorative as it relies on a tacit understanding between its users that supporters of 'populist' policies are easily-led and manipulated, and thick and/or racist/xenophobic people whose right to vote is, by implication, undeserved. In essence, it's a matter of hypocrisy."
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"It was pointed out last night on BBQT that Stanley Johnson had broken his wife’s nose and hospitalised her, Fiona Bruce proclaims ‘it did happen but, IT WAS A ONE OFF! Left wing BBC? Do me a favour."
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Fifth Column 1:35 Fri Mar 10
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"BRANDED 1:02 Fri Mar 10 If you thing the illegal immigrants on the dinghies want to work at all, let alone in the construction industry (either/all of which they can do in the country their little boat sailed from), then they've got your thinking by the short & curlies. Benefits. That's the only attraction the UK has to offer that is not equally on offer in the rest of the EU. They all know if they sail over it's straight to Benefit City, do not pass Go for them, whoever screams what in parliament."
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"67 Bourgeois bollocks - indeed. All the TWAW woke stuff is not left wing at all. It is fundamentally ""liberal"" in the conservative sense of the term - it's about personal choice, I can be who I want. There is no analysis of class. Woman are ""whoever thinks they are a woman"" rather than ""woman are a sex class who have traditionally been oppressed"". Yet the woke cunts think they're left wing. They literally don't know what left wing means."
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"Surface I addressed it to you because you'd been discussing why ""leftie"" was a pejorative. My point was that it's used to deflect responsibility. The lawyers may well be ""lefties"" but equally they may just believe in upholding the law... or both. But in this context it's clearly used as a pejorative implying conspiratorial, unpatriotic, undermining government etc. Leftie in itself is not a pejorative but in this context it's used as such. You were asking I believe what other term should be used? My point was that the term that should be used if it was accurate is just ""lawyer"" rather than ""leftie lawyer"" because their political affiliation is meaningless. The issue is the law and breaking it, not the views of the legal professional who may challenge actions of the government."
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Stop The Boats The latest three-word mantra from a party that calculates the general public can't absorb slogans that are more than three words long.
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67 What does STB mean?
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"Government officials have conceded that solving inactivity in the country’s workforce may not be enough to tackle the number of job vacancies in Britain and changes to immigration will also be required, the Financial Times reported. Sources told the paper the construction will be one of the first identified as a key sector on the Government’s “shortage occupation list” with the migration advisory committee (MAC) recommending bricklayers, carpenters and plasterers for inclusion."
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"Referring back to the post of SAX at 1 am today. Yesterday I was working indoors and the radio was on in the background tuned in to BBC radio 4. A woman was talking who long ago came out as a lesbian. She was saying how in the intervening years she has been able to enjoy life and how society has changed over time such that people like her are comfortable. However she sees a problem that looks like a difficult one to solve for lesbian women. She has over the years regularly attended functions that are exclusively for lesbians but now they are being bedevilled by trans people, who are legally seen as women, insisting on attending much to the frustration and ire of the cis gender people."
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:00 Fri Mar 10 Facts and logic aren't going to win this argument.
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"Remember how the Tories for 50+ years kept telling you their hands were tied, blaming human rights and the EU for their refusal to do a fucking single thing to curtail the deliberate displacement of the natives of Europe. Then covAIDs came along and every Western leader ripped up the previously untouchable humans rights laws, while keeping all its own law abiding citizens locked down and limited their freedom of movement... So on the one hand they can put a stop to it all, limiting all freedom of movement of entire nations in an instant, yet when the public demands it, they can do nothing. Keep voting Tory/Labour, maybe they'll sort it out in a few more election cycles. Seems to me that slavery really is a choice..."
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", 2:08 Fri Mar 10 Yep It is a deflection exercise. The Conservatives has been in power for 13 years and none of the problems are their fault because the EU, Putin, Covid, small boats, the Lefty blob etc etc. Confecting moral panic is all they have left as they have nothing positive left to sell."
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Fifth Column 12:53 Fri Mar 10 Its more simple than that: They're allowing the boat people in because they want to and whenever they posture about wanting to stop it they are lying.
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Woke is totally innocent and never leads to anything bad. https://twitter.com/tarynfenske/status/1633499837659516928?s=20
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", 12:07 Fri Mar 10 When, and for how long were you working and living in Rwanda?"
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", 12:07 Fri Mar 10 When, and for how long were you working and living in Rwanda?"
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Compared to when I was younger there is no far left i dont recognise woke as anything other than bourgeoisie bollocks Neither socialism or capitalism work in the sense of keeping the majority of people content for long periods if time
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"Yeah, it's actually the left that are being attacked and getting the blame for all the worlds failings, and the far right, white privileged, misogynistic, homophobic, racists gammons that don't believe in democracy and equality are getting away with it."
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Surely nobody worries about being called a leftie it’s more that the government ( and the gullible ) blame the left every time they are thwarted.
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