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arsene york-hunt
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Post arsene york-hunt »

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."
stewie griffin
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"At the risk of being accused of being fixated - as opposed to bothering to read the full picture rather than rush to a snap judgement, which is seemingly wrong in the 21st century- I'm pretty sure Lord Sugar isn't in court trying to land his employer with a 5 million pound tax bill. His primary defence is that its the BBC that owe the money, not him. But I'm sure that doesn't factor into the BBCs thoughts on lineker, they're an entirely objective and well run organisation. I'm equally sure that the fact the reason he argues that they owe the money and not him is that he isn't an employee of theirs, doesn't factor into his actions here. Tweeting outside of a well known policy and stepping down in order to prove that you aren't an employee definitely doesn't help him. Not at all. He really does care about those bloody ruddy refugees. Won't pay for them , house them, or visit their living conditions, but he really does care."
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“ Tory Lord Sugar” As distinct from lifelong Labour Party member Alan Sugar who was made a Labour peer by Tony Blair.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"ray winstone 1:06 Sat Mar 11 '‚Äò I'm not sure either of them has called anyone a Nazi, though.‚Äô Neither did Lineker.' Yes he did, mate. Unless some other government was in power in Germany between 1933 and 1939. I haven't heard anyone claim he was talking about the Weimar Republic before that, have you? I don't suppose the thick cսnt has even heard of that."
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Fantastic whataboutism.
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"goose 12:50 Sat Mar 11 Re: Woke watch The simple fact is that Lineker’s contract with the BBC is very clear about impartiality and expressing his personal political views. He’s clearly broken that contract & been punished. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Unlike the Tory Lord Sugar, who has broken his contract & not been punished."
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"‘ I'm not sure either of them has called anyone a Nazi, though.’ Neither did Lineker."
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goose
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The simple fact is that Lineker’s contract with the BBC is very clear about impartiality and expressing his personal political views. He’s clearly broken that contract & been punished.
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"No football focus cos Alex Scott has pulled out, every cloud"
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"No football focus cos Alex Scott has pulled out, every cloud"
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"happygilmore 12:06 Sat Mar 11 Who, exactly, is forcing these refugees to leave France?"
stewie griffin
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"I don't think its an unpopular take in and of itself, mim, whether we agree or not. The problem comes when you appoint yourself as arbiter of all that is morally right and wrong and talking incessantly about helping those less fortunate than you, while doing the exact opposite."
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"It isn't your values anyone has to give a shit about, it's Lineker's arrant hypocrisy"
mashed in maryland
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"Unpopular take: Who gives a shit if someone dodges taxes? The government have enough money. He's doing what he can to keep the money he earned himself so good on him. Also, fwiw, I don't agree with him being sacked, but would be nice if the same ""solidarity"" being shown to him by the football community was shown to Matt Le Tissier. But that's not how it works and we should be used to it so hey ho"
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1930’s Germany’s right wing wanted to silence Germany’s left wing…..that left wing would have tied itself closely to Russia and Stalin ….so the right wing wanted to tie it’s future to Germany and Germans….both sides were lead by 2 of the most evil cunts ever to walk this Earth…..please just tell me how close Sunak and his cronies are even close to this? It is disgusting that so many of our fellow countrymen are willing to dilute what happened in the 1930’s
stewie griffin
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"No , he's not being sanctioned, because it's avoidance rather than fraud. Same as many others. Up until 48 hours ago, people hated those that did this. Now, no problem. Next week, next person, it'll be a problem again. As will use of the word nazi. But for now, it's fine. Again, the problem with people like lineker , neville and Co is that there's no consistency. And that's because they make up the rules as they go along. It's an unwinnable game at that point, so I agree that it's best just not to play."
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", 12:20 Sat Mar 11 'When a government of the day has cowed a national public broadcaster some will say it’s redolent of 1930s Germany.' You COULD say that. But you could also say it's redolent of every government, of every political hue, in every country, on every continent, in every decade since the invention of radio and TV. So if you DID post what you did, you'd be a bit of a knob."
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West ham have decided to show solidarity with Gary Lineker and not appear on match of the day next season
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"Stewie, Everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. He is not being sanctioned because of his tax affairs, and if he was, I'd fully support same. He has called out the language used by the likes of Braverman in relation to a new asylum policy . And because the Tories didn't like his words, they have leaned on the BBC. Anyway, these threads are just full of people with entrenched views. I'm off to watch some football and might pop on a Silent Movie tonight."
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"“When I hear you using words against refugees like ‘swarms’ and an ‘invasion’, I am reminded of the language used to dehumanise and justify the murder of my family and millions of others. Why do you find the need to use that kind of language?” Throughout history can you think of another word when tens of thousands of men in their 20s and 30s illegally cross a border other than ""invasion""? Saying Tory lip-service on this issue is a precursor to genocide is silly."
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solidbond 12:17 Sat Mar 11 'Sufacesgent : Don’t have to post fuck all up you idiot.' You do if you don't want to look like a drooling idiot who can't substantiate his allegations.
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Interesting what is going on right now. In parallel with the way the BBC is handling an affair where a football presenter/pundit has sent a tweet they are also being accused of not broadcasting a programme because of political pressure from the right. When a government of the day has cowed a national public broadcaster some will say it’s redolent of 1930s Germany.
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"happy gilmore 12.06 Yes BUT Joan Salter was fleeing WW2, across numerous countries caught up in a massive conflict... There's no bloody conflict in France! Okay, their food is not quite the gourmet deal it was 20 odd years ago, but that's not an excuse for every bugger to come here, is it? If the people being compared to her were in the same situation, fine, but they're not... they are passing through several countries where they would be perfectly safe if that were the case. We all know the reasons they pitch up here are nothing to do with war and conflict, and so does bloody Lineker. He's just doing his best to be an arsehole - something at which he is becoming quite accomplished."
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"To be fair to Neil, in his role of interviewer, he was equally enthusiastic in handing out maulings to leading politicians on all sides, as Boris Johnson could attest. And in some cases, particularly on TWIP, he was actually being paid to give his opinions, as were Michael Portillo and Diane Abbott and her successors. But yes, Sugar, Leith and the like should be subjected to the same scrutiny. I'm not sure either of them has called anyone a Nazi, though."
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Sufacesgent : Don’t have to post fuck all up you idiot.
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"I don't think believing people should pay the tax they owe qualifies as being fixated. I do, and I'm pretty sure most others on here do. Nor is it remotely unfair to point out the ridiculous hypocrisy of his position. If he and others like him didn't avoid paying tax and leave a black hole in the public finances to the tune of tens of billions of pounds then the big state so he so vociferously campaigns for might become more possible. As it is, his position is very clear, we must do more to help those less fortunate than us , but I sure as shit ain't paying for it, you lot can do that. He is absolutely the worst kind of cսnt. Still, it is good to know that we don't care about it now. I'll remember that the next time someone from the other team is I'm court - and gets off with - paying millions in tax that they owe because they've been able to afford the best lawyers to get them out of it."
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