Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[Fifth Column]

O1BB I'm not sure. I mean how is it possible to be incapable of understanding an argument and responding to it logically as opposed to just posting a stream of consciousness using words that literally have no defined meaning... And to think that it's some form of cogent argument? I think he's a wind up merchant who fails to actually wind anyone up. But his long term commitment to fishing deserves an award.

[Darlo Debs]

5th yes a line does need to be drawn. As with the example I.mentioned re women's refuges and other safe spaces. The rgrey area is where you draw those lines in a practical.and respectful way that doesn't seek.to rob genuine trans people of their dignity or rights but at the same time stops men seeking to.take advantage of trans rights to do wrongful.acts. I don't have the foggiest how we'd go.about doing that mind you. I don't suppose anyone on here does either.

[only1billybonds]

"5th. You are giving Dopey way to much credit. He is so desperate to appear progressive and 'right on' that he'll say/post anything that looks like it might confirm this viewpoint. He is nothing more than a fraud as well as being a rampant narcissist and cannot stand the thought of someine being a bit more informed than he thinks he ia. You posted something the other day that clearly showed you know far more than him on this issue yet rather than think about your post, he replied with a load of bombasic nonsense with an insult aimed at you to finish it off. He's been doing it on here for years and i guess he wont be changing his tactics anytime soon."

[twoleftfeet]

"I see that 4000 people phone a hotline to moan about their cricketing experiences and now cricket is branded racist, sexist, elitist and classist. Based on 2022 figures that 350,000 people played cricket in the UK that means slight over 1% complained. No one ever phones hotlines to say how wonderful things are."

[twoleftfeet]

"I see that 4000 people phone a hotline to moan about their cricketing experiences and now cricket is branded racist, sexist, elitist and classist. Based on 2022 figures that 350,000 people played cricket in the UK that means slight over 1% complained. No one ever phones hotlines to say how wonderful things are."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"No. Just because what I post winds you up does not mean I am on a wind-up. And the fact is, if trans rights are just about the right to be treated normally, then I fully support that effort and project. I also fully support any education programme that helps children accept their real subjective needs whatever the cultural norms of their domestic background, especially if it happens to be defined by a violent and abusive hetersexual adult male posing as a father and provider. So, are you feeling wound-up right now, FC?"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Coffee 10:20 Tue Jun 27 If you've spent much time in SE Asia I would say it's odds on you've met (several) trans people. No drama queens there - the societies tend to tolerate if not fully embrace it. I'm not (just) talking about the girlie-bars of Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket, either. I've worked in & for several SE Asian companies and all had a noticeable quota of trans people who were neither a threat to or threatened by the other (binary,,,""binary"" said with a snarl as if it's a bad thing) staff members, customers or suppliers. It's possible, then, for a society to fully accept trans people, but it has to be done at society's rate, not that of some impatient attention seekers."

[Fifth Column]

"Debs I get it's rhetorical. However you've also recognised that they are already protected in law for employment, housing etc. But ""trans rights are human rights"" remains the slogan at every public trans event. This slogan means access for trans identifying males (Tim's) to female spaces. The policies of Stonewall and other trans organisations are explicitly to recognise Tim's as women in law. And the rest of you should really stop biting to h and P. He Must just be on a massive ongoing wind up. Unlike Debs he can't follow any basic line of reasoning. Like talking to a brick wall. Must just be the greatest fisherman in the history of WHO"

[goose]

"well it doesn't need to be, i can answer your question for you: ""trans people"" have the same access to jobs as you or I, they have the same access to housing and are afforded the same protection from the law."

[Darlo Debs]

Yes goose. As I was actually responding to Fifths post I am sure he'd respond if he didn't pick.up on it being rhetorical. Don't you think?

[Darlo Debs]

Eh? One was customer I didn't know well and one was an old uni friend who I lost touch with. I assume they'd only need one place setting each. Or at least tbe one I was friends with did when she ate at ours. Her brother used to tease her about why she bothered wearing a bra though. Asking her if she'd wear gloves if she had no hands

[goose]

So this was rhetorical? I mean I'd hope you'd not think that just because someone is transitioning they should be discriminated against for jobs or housing or just being afforded the same protection under the law as you or I do not to be harassed or attacked?

[master]

"If they are coming to dinner, how many extra places do you set?"

[Darlo Debs]

Goose it was a rhetorical question. Coffee I've known 2and was very good friends with one. The other wasn't someone I knew well but used to come in as a customer when I worked at Morrisons.

[Darlo Debs]

Goose it was a rhetorical question. Coffee I've known and was very good friends with one. The other wasn't someone I knew well but used to come in as a customer when I worked at Morrisons.

[Coffee]

"I've never consciously known anyone who claims to be trans or identifies as a different gender. And to the best of my knowledge, I don't know anyone who does know such a person. Have I been blinkered all my life, or just ignorant?"

[Hammer Oz]

"Darlos Deb is on a wind up, I applaud 'They' for doing it though. I couldn't hold on to this bullshit without being obvious. Darlos a bit like all other people on here, thank two normal people for my existence. As many people as possible can identify as toast racks as far as I am concerned so they will be lost to existence"

[Hammer Oz]

"Darlos Deb is on a wind up, I applaud 'They' for doing it though. I couldn't hold on to this bullshit without being obvious. Darlos a bit like all other people on here, thank two normal people for my existence. As many people as possible can identify as toast racks as far as I am concerned so they will be lost to existence"

[Hammer and Pickle]

I know you are special Pointy but my sons have somehow combined knowing some trans people without having a million mates. Has this ruined your day? Oh good.

[goose]

"So are you saying they’re being denied their legal rights then Debs? Pickle was bullied at school, hence his hatred for any whiff of masculinity. He hates men, he despises any form of strength or masculinity. He has spent his life being emasculated by other men and now by his wife."

[Darlo Debs]

Goose I didn't actually say they don't have those rights under equality laws.

[Hammer and Pickle]

"This sounds like a serious issue. Just to check before we abandon all our efforts to educate children on all matters relating to non-binary sexual identity, what is the scale of this issue? I mean, compared to say the problem of common-or-garden domestic violence committed by heterosexual males on their female partners and their children, what is the scale of men pretending to identify as women to get into female prisons? Just how BIG is it?"

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Hammer and Pickle 8:09 Sat Jun 24 'when I look at my boys and their friends of a similar age and background, I can say that while the vast majority are heterosexual, there is the normal proportion of gay and trans,' Unless your boys have about a million mates, the 'normal proportion' of them who will be trans is zero. Silly cսnt."

[goose]

What rights are currently denied to ‘trans’ people?

[Darlo Debs]

"Fifth the men in women's prisons thing is bloody so obviously men trying it on to get into a womens prison, snd in some cases risking women's safety no doubt. There is a way around this though. If a man is claiming (after being imprisoned) that he all of a sudden identifies as female then he has to identify as a woman in a male prison for two years and cannot enter a female prison until.he was post op and therefore medically speaking a female. The idea of losing his meat n two veg would certainly prevent a bloke seeking to harm women think twice, and only the toughest of actual trans men would get through living as a female for 2 years in a male prison. Still of tbe mind that this is just a distraction though. ..and doesn't recognise the shit that many trrans people have to deal.with. That said if someone identifying as female but not yet female should deffo not be allowed into certain female spaces that is common sense. Eg women's refuges . There are issues to be addressed clearly but that can be done without denying rights. I mean I'd hope you'd not think that just because someone is transitioning they should be discriminated against for jobs or housing or just being afforded the same protection under the law as you or I do not to be harassed or attacked?"